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Topic: Could it be possible
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ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 5084 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted April 03, 2008 09:39 AM
Hugs to you thirteen, and to you, hippichick   IP: Logged |
goatgirl Knowflake Posts: 1149 From: Anywhere Registered: Jul 2002
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posted April 03, 2008 10:05 AM
26T,I'm so glad you're still here. I've been thinking of you for days, and asking for help for you to have the strength to lift your head up and see the sunshine. Having gone through periods of this myself, it's spirit crushing, draining, and overwhelming numbing feelings of worthlessness. It's usually some random person, like you said that lifts your spirits. This song makes me realize how fleeting life really is, and how important it is to keep on: Do You Realize - that you have the most beautiful face Do You Realize - we're floating in space - Do You Realize - that happiness makes you cry Do You Realize - that everyone you know someday will die And instead of saying all of your goodbyes - let them know You realize that life goes fast It's hard to make the good things last You realize the sun doesn't go down It's just an illusion caused by the world spinning round Do You Realize Do You Realize - that everyone you know Someday will die - And instead of saying all of your goodbyes - let them know You realize that life goes fast It's hard to make the good things last You realize the sun doesn't go down It's just an illusion caused by the world spinning round Do You Realize - that you have the most beautiful face Do You Realize? I'll be thinking of you. Hugs and Love, GG ------------------ The truth is ... everything counts. Everything. Everything we do and everything we say. Everything helps or hurts; everything adds to or takes away from someone else. ~ Countee Cullen We are weaving character every day, and the way to weave the best character is to be kind and to be useful. Think right, act right; it is what we think and do that makes us who we are. ~ Elbert Hubbard IP: Logged |
thirteen Knowflake Posts: 1160 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: May 2004
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posted April 03, 2008 10:23 AM
I am sitting here realizing just now that perhaps the best thing to take from my own experiences is that i was surrounded by people who did not love me so that i could learn to love myself. I was not loving myself and the world was showing me that thru others!!IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 5084 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted April 03, 2008 10:36 AM
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 12906 From: CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted April 03, 2008 12:50 PM
quote: Round and round, here we go again....what's it going to take to shake it off once and for all? Does anyone ever do that - shake it?
I think so. I think it fades out. I know it has for me. Occasionally it comes up again, but not very powerfully. I love you, 26.  IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 4585 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted April 03, 2008 01:18 PM
GG I love the pictures and the words...very soothing.IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 8440 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 03, 2008 03:08 PM
quote: Round and round, here we go again....what's it going to take to shake it off once and for all? Does anyone ever do that - shake it?
What you resist, persists; what you accept, barely exists.
It is only your soul, dear heart. Dont try to bear it. Try to bare it.  IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 8440 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 03, 2008 03:11 PM
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth with destroy you."~ Jesus (The Gnostic Gospel of Thomas) IP: Logged |
praecipua Knowflake Posts: 641 From: england Registered: Aug 2007
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posted April 03, 2008 04:15 PM
i'm having second thoughts on what i said. not that i changed my mind, but i need to precise my ideas. i believe that there's nothing fundamentally wrong with suicide but when we think about suicide, life seems already pretty awful, so everything is justifiable. dying can relieve us from pain (created by ourselves and sometimes inderictly by others.) However when we see the beauty of life, the interest of this solution diminishes and only regrets remain, and regrets are probably some of the most difficult feelings to deal with. so I, and everyone who think about doing it must try to give a go at feeling again the beauty of it all. thank you 26T for bringing this up and showing the example.  IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 8440 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 03, 2008 04:20 PM
I love him whose soul is deep, even in being wounded, and who can perish of a small experience: thus he goes gladly over the bridge. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche What keeps most people from suffering very much is lack of imagination.... Everything great that we know has come to us from neurotics. It is they and only they who have founded religions and created great works of art. Never will the world be aware of how much it owes to them, nor, above all, what they have suffered in order to bestow their gifts upon it.
~ Marcel Proust IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 5084 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted April 03, 2008 04:53 PM
HSC,Those words are so moving.   I keep thinking that your third eye seems very active just lately.  IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 8440 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 03, 2008 05:20 PM
hehe, me too!THANK YOU, EMILY!!!!!!!  IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 8440 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 03, 2008 05:25 PM
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ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 5084 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted April 03, 2008 05:27 PM
That film is a masterpiece  Funnily enough, I was watching it yesterday.  IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross Knowflake Posts: 8440 From: 11/6/78 11:38am Boston, MA Registered: Aug 2004
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posted April 03, 2008 08:13 PM
It really is.Whoever wrote that script really "got it". I see you get it, too.  IP: Logged |
dreamwolf Knowflake Posts: 47 From: Canada Registered: Mar 2008
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posted April 05, 2008 07:10 PM
"that someone 'should' commit suicide in a particular lifetime? That it could actually be the best choice or way for them to go. That maybe that is the way it was meant to be for them in this life path, along with everyone else around them? Some people come in to this life with serious bodily deformities or retardation and it's said they choose to come here that way to balance out karma and/or help others learn compassion etc. Could this also be applied to suicides in some way? Is it really the serious spiritual "no-no" we think it is? What if someone were to pray really hard and chant a mantra like the Tibetans use on dying people and raised their vibration some before doing so? Would that help them get to a better place? Help them make it through the tests we supposedly have to go through after dying? It is said that life is but a dream with in a dream so... A couple of years ago I was in a serious depression and suicidal and drove to my mother's house for help. I cried to her for awhile looking for i dont know what. Much to my surprise and anguish, she suggested that I go through with it and kill myself. And she was serious. And emotionless. Completely detached from what was going I was going through. It felt like i'd been shot and just sat there numb. The tears continued down my cheeks but i couldnt feel anything. I listened to her reasoning for awhile and eventually got up said nothing and left. I cried my way home and didnt get out of bed for a few days. Still i think about this occasionally and wonder if maybe she was right. Or if there was truth to what she said. I need some serious answers on this please."Oh sweety, I'm so shocked at the answer your mother gave you. She must be in a very deep, dark, and ugly place within her own heart and soul. There must be something very very wrong in her mind to say something that thoughtless. My belief as a medium, is that we are here to learn, to teach, and to progress our souls. Karma is nothing more then lessons we chose to go through and experience. Some of those lessons are hurtful and negative feeling while others are very joyful and positive to experience. We make a contract with God to live our life and to experience those things, big or small and to come home to god when it is completed. How are soul progresses has a lot to do with how we solve problems. Since suicide ends the contract before it is finished and the person has not solved the problems or gotten through life they are unable to progress. They will recieve needed councelling on the Other Side because they do always regret their choice and feel very guilty about it. It not only hurts ourselves to die before our time but all the people we love. Causing other people unnucessary pain is not soul progress and it does nothing for them on a higher level. It also stops their own contracts, because without you they cannot fulfill certain goals. The suicide victim is then asked to return to Earth once again and deal with similar problems until they get things right. Suicide is never the answer it is only done by people in an altered state of mind, people who are ill in mind, and those who can't see rationally. It's devastating when someone does this and has never sought or recieved te help they so desperately need. I always think of people who take their lives as ill, because those that are joyful, positive, and in a happy state of mind do not take their lives. This means that something is very wrong when they consider this and it means that the person needs to find help and strength once again. Treating depression is a long process and I will not venture into that topic because it is so very complex and always different for each person. The only tghing I will say is taht anyone who feels so low that they want it all to end, really need to tell their doctors or a proffessional who can help. We are all souls here to better ourselves, we got this far we shouldnt give up now! Think of all the people we can teach and help. One needless death means 200 people(made up #, could be more) won't be affected by their smile, advice, love,compassion, lesson, posts, words etc.. It is like the ripple effect. When you throw a stone into the water you see it makes one ripple and that ripple causes another ripple and it continues like that even after the stone is gone. Suicide causes a negative ripple effect, while being alive can create a positive one.
I lost a friend to suicide and I know it took him years to even feel happy on the Other Side, because he let so many people down and himself. Love is so strong up in heaven that any pain we caused someone on Earth is just devastating to us. Be proud of yoursel, love yourself, and know that God loves you.
Your mother may have an illness in her own brain-or a psychological problem to come out with the words she did. I don't know her behaviour enough to say what she has, but it is clear she isn't in the right state of mind. She could be depressed herself-severily and out of it-not knowing what she's saying. People born with deformities and illness are here to not only teach but to learn as well. They are here to also feel joy, love, and life. Every single person deserves life because one year may look really bad and the next year may be really good. Trust yourself and your choice to be here on this planet-There's a reason and it may look fuzzy now but later in life it will become clearer.
So in short, no suicide isn't a solution, it won't get rid of the pain the soul will feel (Heaven is perfect, our souls are not(only god is)-we do feel emotions and look at our actions after death. We feel pain b.c we feel so much love). Self love and the worthiness to be here need to grow. I can't offer any suggestions except to seek a professionals support, someone you can call when things get rough. Keep only love surrounding you and never for a second consider taking your life, b.c it's worth too much. Your body is The temple to your soul-it should never be destroyed except upon the will of your God. Be blessed.
(I'm sorry this was so long, I havn't read all th eposts yet so I also apologize if I've repeated anything. I will go ahead now and read  IP: Logged |
noreenz Knowflake Posts: 1236 From: No.CAL Registered: Feb 2004
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posted April 05, 2008 11:41 PM
26T- I just found this thread and dont have much time to read through it BUT, what I would like to do is get a reading for you either through a friend of mine or someone else I have in mind. You're looking for answers, maybe one of them can help. You know I think the world of you, you are wise beyond your years..you know this. Please let me try and help, I meant to help you a couple years ago and I never got around to it. I know that doesn't make sense, but thats ok...I am not going to explain here. Do you still have my email addy? If so pls contact me, let me know if you need it and I'll repost BTW, I am sorry you are having some rough times here, tis never easy. Gah, I am seeing past what you see, your road is long one. Gotta run, hope to hear from you soon.... N IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 14577 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted April 06, 2008 01:42 PM
I just want to say Thank You again, everyone.  You have all given me so much to think about. Your expressions of love and support I can truly feel and they have helped, no doubt.Right now I'm trying to focus on the present and not go back down into the past. So, I'm not going to get into replying and trying to make sense of this issue. I think this string was started for more reasons than I knew about at the time. I can see that it has helped some of you out as well. I'm starting to find some solid ground in my perspective of everything again and will continue to work on steadying myself. It is time for me to take a break from a few things, the internet is one of them. So, dont be worried that I'm not around as much. Thank you all so much for your love advice, kind words and understanding. I pray the kindness returns to each of you tenfold.  IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 14577 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted April 06, 2008 01:46 PM
Hey noreen, Great to see you here! Is it strange that i was thinking of you the other day; wondering how you were doing and where you had run off to? Coincidence? I will check my old email addy and see if i still have your email address. Thank you so much for offering to help.  *you have mail  IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 5084 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted April 06, 2008 02:10 PM
26T,  Dreamwolf- I like you. You have such beautiful vibes. 
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dreamwolf Knowflake Posts: 47 From: Canada Registered: Mar 2008
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posted April 06, 2008 04:28 PM
Thanks Listenstotrees You all have such positive energy-this board is great! I hope 26T gets some positivity thrown their way. Maybe the spring air and nature would be great right now?
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juniperb Knowflake Posts: 7016 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Mar 2002
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posted April 06, 2008 05:08 PM
I`m glad you are finding solid ground again  A break sounds lovely ... go see the earth laugh in all her spring flowers!. ------------------ ~ What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~ - George Eliot IP: Logged |
26taurus Knowflake Posts: 14577 From: * Registered: Jun 2004
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posted April 06, 2008 11:06 PM
Thank you LTT and dreamwolf.  jun (and a few others), you have mail. Yes, spring will do us all some good.  IP: Logged |