posted August 15, 2010 10:13 AM         

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While Linda grew up as a little girl searching the mysteries of the Uni-verse, she explored several different religions and belief systems; this Forum is dedicated to those diversities of belief that encompass what we call religion (Moderated by SilverStone and BornUnderDioscuri)

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hmmmm

"Those diversities of belief that encompass -religion-"

I wouldn't say that what Valus is writing about here encompasses "religion".
He has not re-written the bible after all.. Just stating his views about the world and the way in which we perceive people. Just because someone has religious beliefs and mentions these beliefs when supporting an IDEA or "argument" for particular opinions he holds... that does not mean the topic of his post is *religion* itself.

posted August 15, 2010 10:13 AM         

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/001642.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/001636.html

... or not.

Otherwise it just looks like you and Valus are having a private conversation here where you are the only moderator of LLC and he is, well, he is the person that bothers you most, so a single thread of his gets immediately targeted for moving.

posted August 15, 2010 10:21 AM         

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Having said that - I am really sorry to hear about your recent flood troubles and I hope the worst is behind you.

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posted August 15, 2010 10:22 AM         

He's the one who repeatedly posts things here when there are other places for them to go.

Randall supports me completely in my moving posts to where they should go, and has commented that it's nice to see the other parts of LL getting more traffic again.

So I offered Valus a choice to where he wanted it to go.

posted August 15, 2010 10:40 AM         

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Consider it, and you will see the truth of the matter. How often do we find a common person, someone who lives in no exceptional way, and perhaps even engages in various kinds of depravity, and, yet, wears a characteristic smile.

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definition
deprave
late 14c., from O.Fr. depraver (14c.) or directly from L. depravare "distort, disfigure;" figuratively "to pervert, seduce, corrupt," from de- "completely" (see de-) + pravus "crooked." Related: Depraved.

Interestingly enough, Osho comes to mind here..... I will avoid links to him because Valus, I`m sure you are familiar his depravities.

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

posted August 15, 2010 10:53 AM         

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We can all think of someone we know who strikes us as particularly "dark", or of a "low vibration". There is something conspicuous about these people. They are, in a sense, marked. Some cloud hangs over them

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hmmm I must admit I did have this feeling sometimes. But it's not so much that a cloud hangs over them or that they seem "depressed".
I have this feeling of "low vibration" when someone seems very false and uncaring - when they seem to be constantly hiding behind facades of love and humanism (when in reality they could care less.. e.g. the millionaire who sends some money off to charity not because he cares about the charity, but because it helps his public image).

Sometimes I can get a glimpse in my mind of what they are hiding, of what is behind the facade.. and it is never pretty (sometimes it looks revengeful, angry at the world, instigating of negative feelings, manipulative, self-centered -- Other times there is just a big black hole of seeming nothingness). That thought disturbs me a little.

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I also sense a "low vibration" when the person seems to infect a situation, like a disease that spreads (actively trying to bring others down whether consciously or subconsciously). As soon as they enter the situation - everything and everyone seems infected by their energy (even people who don't realize it). It affects others negatively and gives rise to all manner of negative feelings, like anger, sadness, dislike, discomfort.. and also complications, arguments etc. When you dig a little - it always boils back to them.

I do feel like there is a veil of spiritual protection from such things and in my experience - the negativity is eventually dissolved or pushed away. But for a while, it may infect the system.. it may succeed at that. It may win a battle, but never the war.

I'm not sure, if you know what I mean Valus - or if you've had similar feelings.

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How often do we find a common person, someone who lives in no exceptional way, and perhaps even engages in various kinds of depravity, and, yet, wears a characteristic smile. A light shines from their eyes, not because they are walking in the light, but, because they are insensitive to the darkness. And we can all think of people who do good works, and stand for noble causes, while yet burdened with some unshakable grief and sense of inadequacy.

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That is true and I like the point you made.

posted August 15, 2010 11:14 AM         

Valus, it's a wonder you even bother posting here anymore.

That being said I have been wondering similar things lately. wondering about self esteem, what makes some people so self assured and so unquestioning of themselves, and others so hard and down on themselves. I agree that we are better to not judge others, that everyone has their own demons they must wrestle with, and perhaps what seems a burden from god is a gift for soul growth; for a deeper capacity to experience his creation, and to understand and aid others suffering.

posted August 15, 2010 12:08 PM         

and the drunk's smile is of happiness provided by deliberate turning away from his sorrow or failure, and likely to turn into a rant or crying jag in the near future. plus have you ever noticed the shite people utter when drunk? a clear clue that someone is not entirely "at home"...

yet true happiness cannot reside alongside a wounded conscience. ignorance is bliss? perhaps but a truly happy person does not commit adultery, pride, stealth or any of the other "sins"...

posted August 15, 2010 12:19 PM         

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however i think depression is a sign of lack of faith and therefore of at least a temporary lowered vibration. he who KNOWS things are proceeding according to plan does not get depressed in the face of the world's darkness, but GALVANIZED to make a difference.

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This was the type of thing I was thinking of. For the most part, my conscience is clear - for me, when I'm unhappy, it's in direct relation to something I've experienced (or a series of things), fear and/or grief, and a lack of faith. My level of happiness at the moment, has nothing to do with my conscience.

I want to re-read what you wrote, though - that was just the part I zeroed in on earlier.

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and the drunk's smile is of happiness provided by deliberate turning away from his sorrow or failure, and likely to turn into a rant or crying jag in the near future. plus have you ever noticed the shite people utter when drunk? a clear clue that someone is not entirely "at home"...

yet true happiness cannot reside alongside a wounded conscience. ignorance is bliss? perhaps but a truly happy person does not commit adultery, pride, stealth or any of the other "sins"..

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posted August 15, 2010 12:25 PM         

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I think the only reason I come is to read Valus' discourses.

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BLUE ROAMER IS HERE!

Yes, I come here for Valus' writing as well as H&H. Other than him LL does not have much original content, does it?

For me, his writings are a sort of a check with my inner self. They make me feel less alone and less misunderstood. I do not posses the same eloquence or even attention span to sit down and write out my thoughts and feelings like he does, instead, I seek the comfort of his words and let my private self stay private.

posted August 15, 2010 06:59 PM         

which seems out of context now but it`s true anyhow

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

posted August 15, 2010 07:10 PM         

Do you regret saying you saw personal bias on Abs' part? Do you regret saying that Valus is always welcome to post on Astrology 2.0?

posted August 15, 2010 07:50 PM         

And thank you, cpn.

Yin, as always.

Dy-na-mi-tee,
I understand, of course, but
it's not what this thread is about.

posted August 15, 2010 07:53 PM         

Considered a Quaker saint,
and an "everyday mystic", Jones
suffered depression for many years.