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Ami Anne
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posted May 25, 2013 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are RULES for each time period, Padre. No one gets saved w/out accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior in THIS time period.

Prior, it was different. Later, it will be different because the Jews will SEE Jesus come and fight for them and all that do will be saved but for TODAY-- no man can get saved without the Cross--period end. You are wrong here, Padre. It is funky theology with nothing to back it up but a totally wooly reference

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posted May 25, 2013 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami...

I completely disagree with this...

This is 1000% wrong Padre. The remnant is not some esoteric thing. It is the Messianic Jews. ALL people must get to God through Jesus in THIS Age of Grace!

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posted May 25, 2013 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Emeraldopal:
Ami...

I completely disagree with this...

This is 1000% wrong Padre. The remnant is not some esoteric thing. It is the Messianic Jews. ALL people must get to God through Jesus in THIS Age of Grace!


With all due respect, I really have no idea where you are coming from, so I am not going to answer. Blessings to you, though.

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posted May 25, 2013 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will be back later, Padre. xx

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posted May 25, 2013 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami..

what you are saying
is..

Only your religion is Truth...

that is False teaching

there are Many
ways to GOD...

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posted May 25, 2013 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Emeraldopal:
Good question, Padre35

For in Heaven God has no
Image, he and she
just are -
made of Love and Light,
no physical body to
make an image of...

our Soul is like this!

This is where, I think we
are speaking of an Alien
who came and made us in HIS
image and set himSelf up
to fool everyone...

what do you think?


One of the more beautiful parts of Scripture is the Gathering when the Most High says to his Angels:

quote:
God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.


Now for Evolutionists this is a deal breaker, for myself, it is not as I understand Gen 1:1-2

Larger point, on a newly minted Earth, eternal beings gathered and decided to make Mankind just like them.

This is why Christians who disparage Scientists are a mystery to me, we are SUPPOSED to try to figure out how He did it.

Not sit in darkness with our arms crossed with dull minds.

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posted May 25, 2013 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As Linda Goodman wrote...

we destroyed our last planet
MALDEK

lexi

MADE A DEAL
MAKE A DEAL

we came here in a spaceship
which is still in the Sphinx. ...

now I AM crazy

laughing and full of giggles

we made a deal

we were given
The Universal Laws
which are Immutable

you get what you give
each persons karma is
their own

no one can take on your karma
you must balance it yourSelf..

Jesus could not have died
for our sins..

there is no common sense in that..
it is i11olgical. ...

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posted May 25, 2013 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Emeraldopal:
Ami...

I completely disagree with this...

This is 1000% wrong Padre. The remnant is not some esoteric thing. It is the Messianic Jews. ALL people must get to God through Jesus in THIS Age of Grace!


As you should, I spent a literal decade studying such things, just keep in mind who does the Judging at the end of it all

quote:
11 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: 3 “Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me”[a]? 4 And what was God’s answer to him? “I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”[b] 5 So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. 6 And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.

As I've said, "we, and "I" do not understand it, however whomever says they know all of the God's ways is a liar.

There will ALWAYS be some who never bowed a knee to any Baal, God knows who they are, you or I do not and cannot know who they are until the end of all things when everything, good or bad, is revealed.

I know what Evangelists teach, and what Denominations teach, I also spent a solid decade studying such things and think they are trying to what they think they should.

Keep in mind "whom he foreknew", this is from the first earth age, our souls are quite old in point of fact, our bodies are merely transitory vessels.

Reality is though, we cannot know everything.

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posted May 25, 2013 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there is no end..

we are eternal

we have been doing this

for eternity...

many worlds
many planets

reMember

the end is the beginning
and vice-versa...

and we have the POwer
to change all these dire
prophecies, that's why they
are there..to warn us..

so we may Unite, together
and bring

Pax et Bonum

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posted May 25, 2013 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Emeraldopal:
there is no end..

we are eternal

we have been doing this

for eternity...

many worlds
many planets

reMember

the end is the beginning
and vice-versa...

and we have the POwer
to change all these dire
prophecies, that's why they
are there..to warn us..

so we may Unite, together
and bring

Pax et Bonum


Benedictus qui venit in nomini Domini. Bonum certamen cursavi, cursum cosummavi, fidem servavi!

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posted May 25, 2013 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reality is though, we cannot know everything.

Yes, you are totally right!

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posted May 25, 2013 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Padre35,

Could you pleas3e translate
this for me?

Benedictus qui venit in nomini Domini. Bonum certamen cursavi, cursum cosummavi, fidem servavi!

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posted May 25, 2013 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Emeraldopal:
Padre35,

Could you pleas3e translate
this for me?

Benedictus qui venit in nomini Domini. Bonum certamen cursavi, cursum cosummavi, fidem servavi!


Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, I've fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I've kept the Faith.

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posted May 25, 2013 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aahhhh...

thanks very much!

I like that!

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posted May 25, 2013 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Emeraldopal:
Ami..

what you are saying
is..

Only your religion is Truth...

that is False teaching

there are Many
ways to GOD...


No, there is ONE way to God. The road to the true God is narrow. Few will find it. The road to everlasting destruction is wide. Many will find it.

This is sad but true. You can hate me for telling you the truth and you( and others) will but you have been told and what you do with it is up to you, not me.

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posted May 25, 2013 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami,

I don't hate, and never will..
no matter what, I love you..
I love A11
unconditionally..

I have reached a point
of total acceptance..
and place of Love
I exist
with
Heaven on Earth

me, my surroundings
are paradise
for it's how
you SEE and HEAR
things, our attitude

I truly try
to live in the
Eternal Now. ...

I know God,
I speak to God
A11 day, A11 night...

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posted May 25, 2013 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Emeraldopal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda Goodman
wrote about
bringing Peace on Earth..
heeding the prophecies
uniting together
to bring change
a dawn of new understanding. ...

reVersing the Poles
Manifesting a Miracle

EXPECT A MIRACLE


..instead, we are seeing
the negative-evil-dividing-Energy
being fed, over and over and over...

every religion should be studied
for they are all pieces of this
Puzzle...

religion divided the people

today may we join in a common
Spiritual cause to bring change
and u7nderstanding
Love
Light
Magic

Truth, for that is within
each and every One of Us..

each of Us may connect to God..
God only enters into equal partnerships...

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posted May 26, 2013 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We had a lovely dialogue, Padre. Thank you

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posted May 26, 2013 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Padre35:

This is why Christians who disparage Scientists are a mystery to me, we are SUPPOSED to try to figure out how He did it.

Not sit in darkness with our arms crossed with dull minds.


Padre, i just wish to say this to you and to you only, as i noticed you are quite open-minded and might think further before reaching to any conclusion:
In my small experience with orthodoxy i have learned that He does not want us to sit in darkness. But He does not want us to wonder alone either. There are things far stronger than us.
IMo, the brain is like a labyrinth: you will find many ways but they are all closed in the end. The way is UP not in front, not behind, not to the left or the right. With science is just philosophy. Mind fitness, to keep the brain in shape nothing more.
Socrates said it best ”The more I learn, the more I learn how little I know.”
When you accept God in your path everything will reveal by itself. How He did it is not important once you understood His love. Trust me, i am trying to explain this the best i can especially when english is my 2nd language so is hard for me. But since i am no expert i opened that thread about S.Rose.
Because only saints and those who lead a life with God as a companion, aquire wisdom to teach it further. And i mean truly spiritual christian life not every ”preacher wannabe” like me, with the quotes at hand
Otherwise you can sit with the Bible in front of you and understand absolutely nothing. Ever.
That is why those people were chosen: He knew that times would change, He chose them as a bridge for us to reach Him. Just look at most of them as they were intellectuals at first.
Things reveal GRADUALLY. I asked a priest once : Yes, but u have to tell me this, this and this. Why God did that? and that? and this?
And he said: I cannot tell you this yet. You wont understand. First you feed the newbies (he called me a beginner lol ) like you do with a baby You dont feed them meat or solid food, but milk.
Do you understand?

Why Christians have the tendency to reject most religions? because we believe they are incomplete. We believe they are a copy of a copy of a copy all the way to....the true God. Father Seraphim said that the antichrist does not mean only against, but also an imitation. The AntiChrist is not officialy against God, but it”s imitating Him, as they always did and do.
There is no new age to bring peace. This is merely illusion. It would have been here by now. They preach peace and the new world to come but do you see peace and happiness somewhere?
Half of the world lives too well and they get depressed for no reason and the other half is starving and at war.

Please feel free to ignore this post or take it as an advice from another christian;
Just take a book about the lives of saints. Not just one, but more. It will make sense later. This is the only way to understand christianity - the nt(the old testament is not that important and its to be read after you have read the new testament--word from a priest) and lives of saints. Especially those who lived recently. The closer they are to us in time, the easier to understand, since they lived in the same type of society.

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posted May 26, 2013 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 26, 2013 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I gently disagree Geea, the old covenant should be read first as it gives a better feeling for "who" God actually is.

When one reads the OT prophets there is not a sense that God really wanted to crush them and continually warned the people to stop and return and they usually did not.

This makes Christ's time on Earth and his suffering more coherent.

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posted May 26, 2013 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Padre35:

I gently disagree Geea, the old covenant should be read first as it gives a better feeling for "who" God actually is.

When one reads the OT prophets there is not a sense that God really wanted to crush them and continually warned the people to stop and return and they usually did not.

This makes Christ's time on Earth and his suffering more coherent.


yes yes, of course
what i meant was the fact that after Christ came, He left precise teachings and abandoned some(practices) that were in the OT. That's all. That's what the priest told me, that the important thing is what Christ left us, more than any other prophet before Him.
Anyways, i don't wish to start a debate since DD is already as it is, and i thank you for taking the time to read what I wrote
God bless you and I really hope you find whatever you seek

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