posted February 06, 2007 05:02 PM         

I'm new to this board and am posting because I happened across one of Linda's books,"Star Signs" ,in a local thrift store. I had seen the book for years ,but had never read it. Anyway ,I picked up the copy and when I read it I was astounded by the Chaldean numerology section!This system is obviously a link between the Hebrew letters and the tarot and the thrity two paths of the Kabbalah.It was so profound to me because I could never make the tree of life come alive before. It was just an interesting abstract. But when i was able through my birth and name numbers to actually figure out the paths I was on ,it was simply profound!My name number in particular, it made so much sense it was amazing!
I've been reading metaphysical things forever ,but this was one of the most important finds for me. It made so many things make sense.The only thing that comes close to this feeling is my discovery of astrology when I was twenty two.(interesting number!)Strangely enough I'm going to be 44 in a few weeks. 22 years after astrology, now this.
Anyway ,this has opened up so many metaphysical doors for me and I will be eternally grateful to Linda for showing me through her wonderful book.
I think back to 1986 ,when a woman friend of mine tried to get me to read "Star Signs " and I told her I had too much to read and couldn't!Oh,well ,it only would have saved me about twenty two years of searching ,no big deal,lol.
What's funny too is, that since this is essentially a Kabbalistic numerology,I would discover it in my forties,which traditionally is the proper age to study!
Anyway, the main reason I wrote this post is that i am searching for more inforamtion about this system. The rules of it's application seem to be far less numerous than it's cousin pythagorian numerology, which I think is a valid but derivative system.Does anyone know any other books on this subject or have experience with this system they can share? I am desperate to learn as much as possible. It brings the whole Kabbalistic system to life for me!I feel like I've found the source of the nile
I would be deeply ,deeply grateful for any help in findout as much as humanly possible. This means a great deal to me!
By the way my birthday number is 21/3(The World Card)
And my name number is 31/4.(The Hermit Card)
Also I've had some luck with looking up Freemason ideas and Rosicrucian concepts. Also the golden dawn people are pretty good and Eliphas Levi.The whole 18th century tradition has much to offer,but they do make mistakes in various places that can be tricky to avoid.
Anyway, I'm so happy about all this!. I try to get my friends excited but few are willing to get into like I do. So I thought I'd find like minded seekers here!
Thanks for your patience and I hope I haven't gone on too long here. I'm just so excited and happy to find something I've been looking for since I was very young. A system that lives and opens the door to the mysteries!Of course it has been right in front of me for years! But then again that shouldn't surpise me,that's where the mysteries always hide.

posted February 06, 2007 10:06 PM         

Well.. for starters you could try Cheiro's Book of Numbers by Cheiro.

The Kabala of Numbers by Sephariel is also good. This covers both the Chaldean System and also Pythagorean methodologies, as well as some more obscure techniques.

For more info on the Tarot, Qabalah and Astrology, I always recommend Paul Foster Case's Tarot: Key to the Wisdom of the Ages, well actually anything by Paul Foster Case. Check out the archive section at www.lvx.org for a free copy of PFC's An Introduction to the Study of Tarot.

Hope that helps a bit.

Blessings...

A

posted February 06, 2007 10:50 PM           

artlovesdawn asked a question days ago..in your forum, perhaps you should go to your forum first, before venturing out. ...

Carry on... .

posted February 06, 2007 10:54 PM           

Chaldean-Hebrew Kabala Alphabet...
from Star Signs...

came to life completely to me
in the Tarot
add the smybolism of the cards
and numbers
and compare

it opens a whole new door. ...

posted February 07, 2007 05:06 PM           

taurus and libra share Venus
gemini and virgo share Mercury

let's give 11 Pan Horus to Libra
and 12 Vulcan to Virgo
???

what do you think
I have been stuck on those numbers
and the signs...

LOts of LOve to EveryOne. ...

posted February 07, 2007 05:08 PM         

I'm so sorry but I just spent about an hour writing a long post and it didn't post. I have limited time because I'm on a computer at the library.So I'll try again tomorrow. It's really heart breaking.
Anyway thank you Foolsgold,Alszion and Lotusheartone for responding. It is a nice welcome here. I knew when i first started looking at this sight that it was a sweet palce;-)

posted February 08, 2007 05:13 PM         

Thanks for your reply. I guess my post yesterday did take after all. I feel kind of silly now with the other two posts!
Anyway, the ideas you mentioned are very interesting. I honestly don't know enouh about the theory behind those rulerships to comment. I've studied astrology quite a bit ,but I have to claim ignorance here. You got me.Maybe you can help me understand. How do you see those energies fitting in with 11 and 12 and the signs? It makes sense that each sign would have a planet though. so you might be on to something.Maybe you can educate me.I'm always open to new ideas. I'll also start researching and see if I can come up with anything about it too. maybe we can brainstorm together and come to an answer:-)
I also some cool tidbits to share with you about numerology I learned last night!I read a book about pythagoras and it seems his numerology may very well have been gleaned from many sources. Egypt, babylon, and many other countries he travelled through! he spent almost forty years travelling and acquiring wisdom. (And i thought i was intense!). he actually became an egyptian priest ,but was able to keep so much of his teachings secret But I did find out some intersting things. First of all he represented numbers as geometric figures. One = *
Two=** Three = * etc.
* *
Numbers became identitfied with the shapes they made. Some made square ,some rectangles and some triangels. This is so cool because it helped me understand the realtionship between 3 and 10. Both of these are trinagle numbers.

3= * and 10 = * (Tree of Life?)
* * * *
* * *
* * * *

This brings up so many questions?What about the shapes of other numbers? Numbers in the thousands and millions ,what shapes do they make? Pretty fascinating,don't you think?
Also I always wondered why 3 in numerology = jupiter and yet the tarot trump 10 =jupiter. 10 reduces to 1 ,why not a number that redcuces to three for jupiter? Now I know becasue 10 and 3 are connected because they are both triangle numbers! Pretty cool,don't ya think!

Also here's the biggie for me,(I hope you don't know this already)but the tree of life has 231 gates and if you add the numbers of all the tarot cards together you get 231!

isn't that amazing just try it. 1 + 2 + 3+ 4 + 5 etc all the way up to 21. The cards are the 231 gates!!!!!!
I think it's so cool to find this stuff out! it's really what I live for:-)
Anyway, let me know more about your astrological ideas Lotusheartone ,I am interested!
Talk to you soon!

posted February 08, 2007 08:17 PM         

Personally, I'd prefer you didn't speak to me at all.

If you have problems with the way I conduct myself or my forum perhaps you should take them up with Randall, or your psychologist.

I find you rude, offensive and hypocritical... now that I have said my piece, I shall say no more to you.

May God grant you great health, great wealth and great distance...

A

posted February 08, 2007 08:30 PM           

honestly, this time around, astrology to me, is just a guiding map to overcome...Master
my true loves are meta-physics, pOetry, literature, and our Human history....

Greek MYthology has helped me immensely..to
bring the planets, star seeds together

thinking 0 to 10
is the basis
11 12
the first children...

I'm still working on it...

and the Secret of 13

oh this is fun!

Ignores Aselzion. ...

posted February 09, 2007 04:56 PM         

I'll meditate on the things you mentioned and get back to you soon.

Thanks for the sweet reply!

posted February 09, 2007 06:00 PM         

Sorry about the brief reply before but i was on a library computer and was running out of time. Nothing is worse than writing s long post and then having the computer go off!
Anyway, I agree with what you say about astrology being a map to transcend. It represents influences i think that we shoild attempt to rise above. So I'm with you there. we can get too caught up with our signs and aspects and not see who we really are on a deeper level.
As for literature and poety, I love it too. If it weren't off the topic of this board I'd love to get into great books and poetry with you!I've not read much history though, I must confess.
What other metaphysics do you like?
I'm mostly into Indian mysticism(upanisads,tantra, hatha yoga )native american spirituality and Kabbalah.Also I'm just starting to get into Egypt, which has always intimidated me before. But there seem to be so many fascinating things about it!
Oh ,before I forget. I found the W.Wynn Westcott book I was looking for online. You can look at it for free;-).It's at www.esotericarchieves.com. It's called ,"The Chaldaen oracles of Zoroaster". It's so much like the kabbalah it's astonishing. I really wonder who influenced who sometimes. Although I intuit that the Hebrew Kabbalah was first.
What do you think?
I like the way you put things. Seeing the numbers after 10 as children. I think it's a very beautiful idea.I think the way you write is very lovley and ethereal. I really like it!
What did you think about the 231 gates and the addition of all the cards? Pretty good ,huh? (No need to applaud!)
Actually I'd love ot claim i discovered it ,but i didn't . I read it in a book.But the funny thing is the book made no mention of the 231 gates. So in a way maybe I did discover it.(you can applaud now!) I'm not sure the author knew! The whole book was wrong in my opinion except for that one little gem! it made the whole read worth it!But it also shows if we're creative and fool around with some of these things we can still find new ideas !

Anyway Lotusheartone ,
My computer time draws to an end.
Nice talking to you!

posted February 09, 2007 06:20 PM           

Thanks for your kind words, they mean the World to me

The Chaldean Oracles of Zoroaster
Sapere Aude. (W. Wynn Westcott)
I have this, hehe, some of it seems
off, yet good information remains

231 gates, expand please?

Egpytian Book of the Dead
was helpful
Nut and Seb (Geb)
are the same as
Cronus and Rhea

Motion
H.P. Blavatsky

Cross and Circle

the Pleiades are the central group of the system of sidereal symbology. They are situated in the neck of the constellation of Taurus, regarded by Madler and others, in astronomy, as the central group of the system of The Milky Way, and in the Kabala and Eastern Esotericism, as the sidereal septenate born from the first manifested side of the upper triangle, the concealed (picture of a triangle*). This manifested side is Taurus, the Symbol of One (the figure 1), or of the first letter of the Hebrew alphabet, Aleph (bull or ox) whose synthesis is ten (10), or Yodh, the perfect letter and number. The Pleiades (Alcyone, especially), are thus considered, even in astronomy, as the central point which our Universe of fixed stars revolves, the focus from which and into which the divine breath, MOTION, works incessantly during the Manvantara. Hence--in the Occukt philosphy and its sidereal symbols--it is this Circle and the starry cross on its face, which play the most prmoinent part.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I will add more, and re-read your questions soon,
Prometheus, is very interesting, too!

LOts of LOve to EveryOne. ...

posted February 09, 2007 06:54 PM           

5. Hence, the inscrutable God is called silent by the divine ones, and is said to consent with Mind, and to be known to human souls through the power of the Mind alone.

19. Natural works co-exist with the intellectual light of the Father. For it is the Soul which adorned the vast Heaven, and which adorns it after the Father, but her dominion is established on high.

21. The channels being intermixed, therein she performs the works of incorruptible Fire.

~~~~~~~

Father/Her, this is the discrepancy
for MOther and Father are equal

Man took over
and hid MOM away
from Us. ...

it takes two. ...

posted February 09, 2007 07:31 PM           

H.P. Blavatsky

FOHAT

Stanza V

1. THE PRIMORDIAL SEVEN, THE FIRST SEVEN BREATHS OF THE DRAGON OF WISDOM, RPODUCE IN THEIR TURN FROM THEIR HOLY CIRCUMGYRATING BREATHS THE FIERY WHIRLWIND (a).

(a) This is, perhaps, the most difficult of all Stanza to explain. It's language is comprehensible only to him who is thoroughly versed in Eastern allegory and its purposely obscure phraseology. The question will surely be asked, "Do the Occultists believe in all these 'Builders,' 'Lipika,' and the 'Sons of Light' as Entities, or are they merely imageries?" To this the answer is given as plainly: "After due allowance for the imagery of personified Powers, we must admit the existence of these Entities, if we would not reject the existence of spiritual humanity within the physical mankind. For the hosts of these Sons of Light and 'Mind-born Sons' of the first manifested Ray of the UNKNOWN ALL, are the unphilosophical dogma of a specially created soul for every human birth--a freash supply of these pouring in daily, since "ADAM"--we have to admit the occult teachings. This will be explained in its place. Let us see, now, what may be the occult meaning of this Stanza.
The Doctrine teaches that, in order to become divine, fully conscious god, --aye, even the highest--the Spiritual primeval INTELLIGENCES must pass through the human stage. And when we say human, this does not apply merely to our terrestrial humanity, but to the mortals that inhabit any world, i.e., to those intelligences that have reached the appropriate equilibrium between matter and spirit, as we have now, since the middle point of the Fourth Root Race of the Fourth Round was passed. Each entity must have won for itself the right of becoming divine, through self-experience. Hegel, the German thinker, must have known or sensed intuitionally this truth when saying, as he did, that the Unconscious evolved the Universe only "in the hope of attaining clear self-consciousness," of becoming, in other words, MAN; for this is also the secret meaning of the usual Puranic phrase about Brahma being constantly "moved by the desire to create." This explains also the hidden Kabalistic meaning of the saying: "The Breath"...

posted February 10, 2007 12:12 AM           

atom lexi's to moat = 16 The Tower = 7 Neptune
a moat surrounds, protects

hmmm, The Golden Egg?

posted February 10, 2007 12:21 AM           

then reptiles...

DNA
451 = 10

what does this mean?

mammals
GENES
35553 = 21

single GENE = 18 = 9

we've been tampered with...
mixed and re-mixed

yet the soul remains the same...

ggodness, where was I going with this???
lol...

posted February 10, 2007 01:53 AM           

continued from motion-blavatsky

2. THEY MAKE OF HIM THE MESSENGER OF THEIR WILL (a). THE DZYU BECOMES FOHAT; THE SWIFT SON OF THE DIVINE SONS, WHOSE SONS ARE THE LIPIKA,* RUNS CIRCULAR ERRANDS. HE IS THE STEED, AND THE THOUGHT IS THE RIDER (i.e., be is under the influence of their guiding thought). HE PASSES LIKE LIGHTENING THROUGH THE FIERY CLOUDS (cosmic mists) (b); TAKES THREE, AND FIVE, AND SEVEN STRIDES THROUGH THE SEVEN REGIONS ABOVE AND THE SEVEN BELOW (the world to be). HE LIFTS HIS VOICE, AND CALLS THE UNNUMERABLE SPARKS (atoms) AND JOINS THEM TOGETHER (c).

"the messenger og their will" -- the fiery whirlwind...

all this seems to lead to something of falsehood..doctrines of dogma
handed down, to fall...

like toy soldiers

so, you see as you search
the mix-up, is not a mix-up
but a set-up

to confuse, create chaos

this is why, I try not to get to involved into any reading material
for most lead to paths
of untruth's

but yet the truth is there
within each of Us. ...

posted February 10, 2007 02:34 PM           

different creation stories, beginnings and falls, cycles, of our World, this physical-material, do not forget the spiritual
the Soul, and all it's incarnations of Earth Life...

MOTION
H.P. Blavatsky, I found this interesting!

(c) Fohat, being one of the most, if not the most important character in esoteric Cosmogony, should be minutely described. As in the oldest Grecian Cosmogony, differing widely from the later mythology, Eros is the third person in the primeval trinity: Chaos, Gaea, Eros: answering to the Kabalistic En-Soph (for Chaos is SPACE xaivo, "void") the Boundless ALL, Shekinah and the Ancient of Days, or the Holy Ghost; so Fohat is one thing in the yet unmanifested Universe and another in the phenomenal and Cosmic World. In the latter, he is the Occult, electric, vital power, which, under the Will of the Creative Logos, unites and brings together all forms, giving them the first impulse which becomes in time law. But in the unmanifested Univerese, Fohat is no more this, than Eros is the later brilliant winged Cupid, or LOVE. Fohat has naught to do with Kosmos yet, since Kosmos is not born, and the gods still sleep in the bosom of "Father-Mother." He is an abstract philosophical idea. He produces nothing yet by himself; the NOUMENON of all future phenomena divides, so to speak, but to reunite in a mystic supersensuous act, and emit the creative ray. When the "Divine Son" breaks forth, then Fohat becomes the propelling force, the active Power which causes the ONE to become TWO and THREE -- on the Cosmic plane of manifestation. The triple One differentiates into the many, and then Fohat is transformed into that force which brings together the elemental atoms amd them aggregate and combine. We find an echo of this pimeval teaching in early Greek mythology. Erebos and Nux are born out of Chaos, and, under the action of Eros, give birth in their turn to Aether and Hemera, the light of the superior and the light of the inferior or terrestrial regions. Darkness generates light. See in the Puranas Brahma's "Will" or desire to create; and in the Phoenician Cosmogony of Sanchoniathon the doctrin that Desire, is the priciple of creation.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'll add more later...Madame Blavatsky is a strange one..part of an exculsive group..
her wording and thought processes are very confusing to me..somethings, I pull and extract out! But Chaos reigns
Confusion...

Mother and Father, as I have been shone, make things very simple
the sky is our mirror image
as above
so below
Our Soul-Over in Heaven is our god/goddess part, our angels
Mastership is to know thy OverSoul the you-of-you...
connected to Body and Mind
Soul god part in Heaven
Star Seeds
children of the planets

the Nile and the pyramids mirrored the Sky the Milky Way the Celestial Nile and so forth points pointed out. ...

I have family in and out today..a weekend of readings for family and friends...

LOts of LOve to ALL... .