posted May 25, 2009 10:08 AM            

Forgive me, to all Librans out there but the ones that I have had the privilidge to meet are anything but.

The interesting thing is that Libra is the opposite of Aries( a "masculine" sign) and yet astrologers are quick to assign so caled "feminine" qualities to a "masculine" sign.

In my observation, Libra and Aries have much in common as much as there are differences(as there is with signs that are in polarity).

Aries people have often been termed "aggressive" and "assertive" and yet I see the same qualities in Librans, although it is often hidden or dormant. But nevertheless, they are always there.

I've noted that:

Moon Librans: Arguments and disagreements at home.

Venus in Libra: Arguments and disagreements with your partner.

Mars in Libra: Physically violent fights

posted May 25, 2009 10:32 AM            

a prominent Mars,
aspects to Mars or its Nodes can easily modify the peaceloving traits of Libra

just like aspects to Venus or its Nodes can easily modify the warlike traits of Aries

The Libra can have Aries planets

take for instance the greatest NFL wide receiver in history, Jerry Rice
He has Sun in Libra, Moon in Aries. he is highly competitive.

another thing

everybody has dormant traits of assertiveness,aggression

after all, everybody has a Mars in his/her chart.

everybody has dormant traits of peace loving and consideration for others (I don't like using the word, sensitive which actually means responsive to external stimuli)

after all everybody has a Venus in his/her chart.

posted May 25, 2009 10:50 AM            

"Eh, all's fair in love n war"

posted May 25, 2009 11:07 AM            

I have questioned it myself, and I wonder about using a Constellation zodiac which is not the same as Sidereal Zodiac. I am Virgo Sun in constellation zodiac and not a Libra Sun as I am in Sidereal Zodiac.

another thing Pluto has been in Libra,and so Pluto conjuncting a planet can modify the Libra traits of the planets with intensity.

Eris has been in Aries for a very long time,and so a Libra planet can have an opposition to Eris in Aries,and so they can have a tendency to discord or be controversial in some way. I would use no more than 3 degree orb.

Al Sharpton has Sun in Libra oppose Eris. He's a prominent civil rights leader, but he also has been viewed as controversial,stirring up stuff when it comes to race as well as being accused of being a racist himself.

I believe that no more than 3 degree orb is valid for Eris

I believe that the kuiper belt objects are the missing link.

The plutinos, Ixion and Orcus can be just as intense as Pluto.

Orcus has been in Cancer, and so a Libra Planet could be squaring Orcus. I use no more than 3 degrees.

posted May 25, 2009 11:10 AM            

Libra was once the Scorpion's Claws

The Scorpius constellation used to be a much larger constellation with the combination of Scorpius and Libra to form a much bigger Scorpio constellation.

posted May 25, 2009 11:34 AM            

If you forget about the sun sign descriptions for a while it is easy to see that opposite sign differences are actually not differences but integral parts!

Did anyone ever notice how Cancers cruel and cold can be, Scorpios greedy and narrow-minded, Taureans unforgiving and ruthless, Aquas egocentric and attention craving, Aries dependable and weak, Librans agressive and not flexible, etc, etc??!

(*did not mean to offend any particular sun sign*)

posted May 25, 2009 11:45 AM            

my Cancer maternal grandfather was actually very nurturing and warm.....heck.....he kept my mother when my Aries grandmother tried to give her up for adoption. He has Sun parallel Ceres,and that could be it. He also has Venus conjunct Ceres too. He had Moon in Pisces like me too.

I don't see myself as greedy and narrowminded. I have a tendency to give money to strangers on the street, and I won't hesitate to help my mother out financially. I hardly spend nice things on myself. Heck..I just recently ordered a brand new bedroom set after having just a futon mattress to sleep on since 2006. I think that I am very openminded, and I even go a Unity church which believes in diversity of religious,spiritual beliefs. I find the intolerance of diversity to be annoying,and it tends to be disguised as diversity itself. That happens a lot of in society,and it's like one vicious circle. I have Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio.

but my Scorpio planets are modified

Sun trine Moon
Mercury parallel Neptune
Venus parallel Neptune

of course, there is my Moon in Pisces square Neptune

free will is the ultimate factor any way.

posted May 25, 2009 12:07 PM            

Out of my 2 other roommates (one Virgo Moon, one Sag Moon), I am the least likely to get into fights with them. I'd rather not say anything and avoid confrontation.

Don't paint with a broad brush.

posted May 25, 2009 12:14 PM            

They're very passive-aggressive and will try to manipulate the situation in order to make the other person back down.

posted May 25, 2009 12:21 PM            

Have you met any Librans over the age of 25??
Hmmmm, Venus in Libra = arguments and disagreements with your partner, eh.....
I suppose arguments and disagreements with your partner never happen with:
Venus in Aries
Venus in Taurus
Venus in Gemini
Venus in Cancer
Venus in Leo
Venus in Virgo
Venus in Scorpio
Venus in Sagittarius
Venus in Capricorn
Venus in Aquarius
Venus in Pisces

posted May 25, 2009 01:26 PM            

Anyway, this is my take:
Moon Librans: always try to act nice and detached - you just dont know how they feel. They can talk about you but you wont know if its good or bad.

Venus in Libra: They think they're God and eveyone especially the partner needs to pander to them

Mars in Libra: When they are angry, they don't know how to show their anger, except being passively aggressive and hitting below the belt.

posted May 25, 2009 02:46 PM            

I agree 100 percent!

I have tried to make that point numerous times.

It's also very important to look at the overall chart which is just a snap shot of the sky at the moment of birth.

I am having a hard time viewing a natal chart as 2 dimensional because of that. That's why I look at other celestial coordinates besides ecliptic longitude which is what most astrologers use. Astronomers use both Right Ascension (ecliptic longitude) and Declination (ecliptic longitude).

I believe that the actual stars also give clues to one's personality.

I am not talking about projecting stars onto the ecliptic

I am talking about parans that involving observing a planet/luminary on an angle at the same time a star is on an angle at any time during the day of birth.

before astrologers took Ptolemy's star projections and planetary characteristic assignments for certain stars, mythology was the key part of Astrology.

I have HOROSCOPE SYMBOLS,and that's a book that I strongly recommend. I like how he explains midpoint and declination methods.

posted May 25, 2009 03:44 PM            

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Also remember that libra loves a good debate, its all part of the balance-act thingy.

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