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Topic: What makes india so mysterious and intense?
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted June 23, 2009 04:14 PM
I also don't find India mystic or whatever and would not live there. And I certainly don't like the abrasive way VenusdeIndia is bashing anyone who has that opinion, all the while she talks most spitiful about americans. Hypocritical to the bone!IP: Logged |
cpn_edgar_winner Knowflake Posts: 1630 From: Toledo, OH Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2009 04:21 PM
i am not even interested in visiting. doesnt seem a safe or sanitary place. especially for a fair skinned woman. just seems like a sad scary place to me. mysterious and intense? egypt, cuba inviting - italy, paraguay fun - brazil / south america invigorating - denmark / sweeden edited to add: dear orange - venusdelionesse apparently can be rude and condescending and anti american to anyone, but if you ever say anything about it, you will most likely be slaughtered by the masses. just an fyi. new user. old lesson. so please ignore slanderous comments, as it has a way of biting you back by responding. oranges are so wonderful (and the color is most perfect), i just know you will choose a higher road! Welcome!
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 198 From: California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2009 10:52 PM
Hmm, if someone was bashing my country in the way it was done i'd probably get upset too. The choice of words of Venuslioness was rather unfortunate, but perhaps, next time, before putting down a country that may be dear in the heart of some of its citizens who post on this board, one should think twice, even thrice. It's rather sad. It could have been a great thread. IP: Logged |
VenusDeLionesse Knowflake Posts: 150 From: mumbai,india Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2009 11:43 PM
Apologies to anyone who feels my words directed at specific statements made by one person automatically apply to them becoz they happen to read it.No one likes to hear a verdict on their cultural identity that is bound to be insulated and uninformed in the lack of direct personal experiences , and fewer can keep their calm under such instances esp if they happen to have a strong sense of national identity. Thats my crime, mea culpa. quote: if someone was bashing my country in the way it was done i'd probably get upset too. The choice of words of Venuslioness was rather unfortunate, but perhaps, next time, before putting down a country that may be dear in the heart of some of its citizens who post on this board, one should think twice, even thrice.
Thank you Belage for being the one person who can get to the spirit of the post rather than dissect it for rudeness or abrasiveness. The thread for one was not started in GU which makes it a mistake of judgement if not a deliberate attempt to raise such issues in this forum. Two ,Carl was asking for Astro reasons to explain this pull and members start offering non-astro reasons to explain their own personal repulsions that have ZILCH to do with Astro and NOT in the spirit of this forum - i am not talking about GU here. Glaucus 's post was not just irrelevant,irrational and ridiculous - he has never lived here for an amount of time to seriously regard his opinions in the first place , let alone have any right to talk like that about what he knows thru Google. IF he had he would have earned my respect of his opinions that owuld have had ground in reality and no way would i have made the " Cut - the cr@p " comments i made. Which member here thinks they can know the ground realities of any region via net and more soo possess an authority over its dismissal ?? Glaucus's post is nothing more than an addition to his long list of Victim projections ( Pisces-neptune ) ,that he keeps in any thread no matter how irrelevant it may be to that thread. In hindsight i now realise that it was not something personal he has against a culture he has never visited, but a Victim - Saviour projection he has always thrown in every thread.He even left this site a few years ago after someone else called his nonsense on such projections in a thread that had nothing to do with any culture. Nevertheless , nothing i said was unwarranted in any sense - what he said was not just rude but even ridiculous - given his knowledge is an Internet PHD not grounded in reality and the dynamics that he doesnt know of. Is it okay to allow a member to take such liberties with common sense but not okay is someone calls on it ? IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1933 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2009 11:58 PM
I don't see why people can't express their views about certain things without being accused of bashing. I didn't think that anybody was bashing India. Lucia was making a point that not everybody shares the same views as Carl in regards to India. She made good points about the Eueopean and American perspective. I pointed out there is a serious human/equal rights issues in India in regards to the Untouchables aka Dalits. It's not like I read about this stuff in National Enquirer either. I am rather indifferent in regards to India. I neither like it or dislike it.
I certainly didn't come from an American jingoist perspective because I can easily point out flaws in USA. I have done in the past,and I got slammed by conservatives on this forum. I rather live in my home country than in India because I don't want to deal with the Untouchables situation over there. I don't want to be around it. I'd get very angry. I might end up being treated as an Untouchable myself. to be fair to venusdeindia, I haven't really seen her be anti-American. it's more about her being conservative from the stuff that I have read. There are some conservatives that would think some of us liberals are Anti-Americans without really know anything about us.
I can play the devil's advocate. I can see both sides to a situation. I will make points about something even though it's not something that I am attached to. we all have our different views. Carl expressed his, and so Lucia and I are expressed ours. I am not going to get into the "I am right,and others' are wrong" That's one of the negatives about the Eris energy. I think that it's best that we acknowledge that we all have our own views and that we should agree to disagree and not call people stupid,delusional,or other names because we don't agree. That's always a problem on our planet. I am starting to realize more and more that my strong Eris energy with Sun conjunct South Eris Node in Scorpio can lead me to be seen as highly controversial,stirring stuff,divisive if I show too much emotion,passion and intensity in expressing my views. Therefore, I am trying to do my best not to get upset if people have their own opinions that might seem to offend me. I try not to upset others. A lot of times, my own passion and intensity can be misunderstood too. I admit there is a fine line between my passion/intensity and my being angry about something. I am sorting that out.
Raymond
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Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1503 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 12:00 AM
There is never any call to use an overt racist slur ("wetback") under any circumstances, in any context.I am sorry that this forum is not moderated so that members who use that kind of hate language are banned. Then again, I'm even sadder that there are people out there who think that way and would feel comfortable using a term like that...and that there are others who believe that such a thing is acceptable. IP: Logged |
Cheshire Kat Knowflake Posts: 369 From: Wonderland Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 12:23 AM
I didn't know there were things like country charts..are there hometown and state charts too? O.o Yes I am being serious, I want to know why I am so drawn to Arizona and Canada. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 198 From: California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 02:22 AM
VenusDeLionesse, I have always loved your posts and I appreciate the contribution that you and other posters from India have generously made to this forum. I have learned so much from you especially in understanding asteroids. Please don't let that stop you from continuing to contribute.  IP: Logged |
VenusDeLionesse Knowflake Posts: 150 From: mumbai,india Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 02:43 AM
DD, asteroid Roma conjunct my south node !!!If only there were an asteroid nile or egypt ... By the atlantean midpoints i meant the ones i spoke about in my natal chart thread..remember the one that Iqhunk started in the old forum ? 0 cancer and 0 cap are the important ones...there are others i cant remember now.... IP: Logged |
VenusDeLionesse Knowflake Posts: 150 From: mumbai,india Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 03:07 AM
Glaucus, i hadnt read your gem of a post until now so i digress... quote: all the condescension doesn't erase the fact that there is a serious unofficial caste system in India that leads to much cruelty,violence,and unfair treatment.
neither does YOUR condescension erase the fact that it firstly it is NOT your business to derail a thread by talking about things irreelevant to the topic. No one died and appointed you the moral judge with powers transcending the topic being discussed and the sentiments of those you deem your are fit to put in their place. When entering a discussion ,one who talks about a matter irrelevant to it is the one a shrink would say the " Projector " of his own weak Ego into the discussion ,who hopes to earn a little intellectual respect ( energy for the Ego ) by raising points he thinks are more important than what " others " are discussing. When Carl asked about what astrological aspects can indicate the aura associated with India you give your own personal reasons why your high and mighty compass stops you from coming here . Now THAT is called having a whacked - out Ego You make something about yourself and your high and mighty morals when it isn't. Lack of OBJECTIVITY
a.k.a - No anchor in ground reality whatsoever in addition to being letting your ego decipher what you read so as to serve its own purpose of feeding itself. And also because the " others " who are discussing a topic -
to this " Whacked - out - Ego creature " are NOBODIES who CANNOT possibly know as much as him or have a moral compass of their own, better yet have a right to it. You identify with the worst possible victims and PROJECT that into every discussion, even when irrelevant to it and covertly imply that a lack of everyone else shouting it from the rooftops or accepting it as a part of life makes them ALL the " Bad guy " and you the " Good Guy " Man you are still stuck with your unresolved Oedipal dynamics to be still painting the world in Black and White extremes..
quote: From all I read, I don't want to go there. I'd get sick.
Good for you, i get sick every time i land in US , what with the all pervasive chaos everywhere and lack of social order.Atleast you dont have a high paying job that forces you to travel to a place of social chaos.
quote: I don't believe in superiority,inferiority stuff.
Yes and THAT automatically makes a man who makes a billion dollars thru hard work and perseverance EQUAL to a ghetto thug who would rather be a good for nothing living with his Mama on welfare.
How can i even begin to find fault with such brilliant logic.  The fact that YOU believe the earth is flat automatically makes it so. the fact that you believe that a country is sick because ,someone has some whacked out reason to find someone else uncool. Perfect Logic. this forum should have a sign " Dont feed the Whacked out - Ego creature " quote: I don't think India is any more spiritually evolved than any other country. That goes for any country too.
aaahh... now THAT is relevant to the topic being discussed .  There you go Glaucus, all one needs to do is read thru 10 irrelevant , irrational posts until you finally talk about the topic -
with no astrological points to offer as arguments but YOUR PERSONAL prejudice.
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VenusDeLionesse Knowflake Posts: 150 From: mumbai,india Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 03:13 AM
quote: I understand that LindaLand is not heavily moderated, BUT I often wish it were.It really should not be okay for anyone to use overtly racist slurs here ("wetback"), or to characterize someone else's posts with crude insults (a "dumbfest", "Mind bogglingly delusional self aggrandizement.") I think it's fair to expect not to have to read the term "wetback" here, in any section of the Lindaland forum.
Now THIS Lucia is what deserves to be called -
" Throwing sh1t on the wall hoping it will stick " what you are actually saying is that your ignorant opinions on a country you know thru 2 individuals out of a billion Indians should be allowed to pass . but god forbid, if someone exposes it for what it is ,they should be censored immediately. If its okay for most of my american friends to lovingly call me their " Wetback girl " while i refer to them as my Yankee doodle - budds ..i reckon forum members are strong enough to face such trysts with insensitivity. After all we are all grown ups here right ? Or do we need to PC each other so it suits our own interests ? how grown up  IP: Logged |
VenusDeLionesse Knowflake Posts: 150 From: mumbai,india Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 03:20 AM
quote: i am not even interested in visiting. doesnt seem a safe or sanitary place. especially for a fair skinned woman.
No it is definitely NOT a safe place for a lone traveller like many countries where the law order force is understaffed.It is not sanitary at all , thats the last reason to visit any third world country. the only reason to visit would be if you like being a land where people smile at you even when they dont know your CASTE, who are willing to help you on the streets when they dont know your name . Or to visit a country that has a REAL history and culture of its own. We dont have much else to offer at all .
quote: venusdelionesse apparently can be rude and condescending and anti american to anyone,
Now THAT is a half lie Of course i CAN be rude , but thats only like any other person who CAN be rude when he feels the situation demand harsh talk right ?
What would be your reaction if someone told you your home is unfit for anyone else to consider it a home ? Would you politely tell them you agree or tell them its not their business in the first place ? But what makes anti American ??? Oh come on, if you have to accuse me of something do back it up with something i wrote that actually constitutes proof enough for Randall to ban me. i mean it, if you can say it you can back yourself up like an adult - just mail what you find anti-American to Randall and post it in the next post so everyone can come to the same conclusion and Randall can ban me. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1933 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 03:23 AM
venusdeindia, I strongly disagree with the stuff that you said. you don't know me. like you, I have my opinions,views,and beliefs. Everybody else does too. therefore, I expressed mine and so did Lucia...so did other people. We have the freedom to do that. Just because we expressed views that don't concur with what you believe doesn't really warrant any attacks on us and getting rude and nasty. all I did was point out the Untouchable/Dalit issues in India, and I don't want to be around that type of stuff. I think that people can point out the bad stuff too and not just the good stuff. I also expressed my view that I don't believe India is any more spiritual,mystical,enlightened than any other country. I stick by that view. It has nothing to do moral superiority or whatever else you accuse me of. It has to do with my belief in the equality of all countries and their potential. I feel that same about human beings in general. Of course, there Untouchable/Dalit situation factors into my belief too. It cannot be ignored. I think it has to be taken into consideration. Like I said, I think the good and bad stuff should be taken into consideration. I don't see how any of that has to do with whacked out ego and oedipal problems.
I never thought that I was better than anybody nor superior in any type of way either. Just because I have views that differ from yours doesn't mean that I believe that nor does it mean that I have ego and oedipal issues. It doesn't mean that I am stupid nor ignorant either. I believe that everybody is created equal. I believe that all of us remain equal...no matter what a person does. Just because a person does a lot of good compared to another person who does a lot of bad doesn't mean that the person is superior to the person. As human beings/homosapiens,we are equal. I would think that it would be a bad ego thing to believe one is superior because a person has better morals and ethics. That's the type of self righteous thinking that can lead people to take the law in their own hands and be vigilantes or condemn people (they are going to hell) for not being like them. Of course, I feel the same way about people who are well-abled,highly intelligent who think that they are superior to people that are handicapped. I believe that all of us were born with a purpose. I believe that we are all special in our own way. I obviously don't believe in eugenics either. I believe in diversity,but I also believe in tolerance and acceptable of diversity as well as that diversity and equality co-exist and do not exclude each other. I don't think that we should be calling each other names,attacking, and calling people ignorant,stupid,or other things just because we have views that are divergent from each other. That's some serious Eris problems that we have going on our planet. Dr. Michael E. Brown, a professor of planetary astronomy at the California Institute of Technology who discovered the distant ball of ice and rock that he nicknamed Xena and that had been designated 2003 UB313, chose the name Eris, after the goddess of discord and strife in Greek mythology. “It is absolutely the perfect name,” Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status. In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War. “She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://tech.mit.edu/V126/N38/38shorts2.html that's my belief. It doesn't mean that I think that I am right or wrong. I believe that it's all relative imho. look at how many religions,faiths,spiritual traditions that we have on our planet. a lot of diversity. it doesn't have to be one is true and all the other are false. They all can be true or they can all be false or they can have be both true and false in certain ways. That can be all based on perception that is relative. Everything that I said actually are connected to my Unity,New Thought religious/spiritual beliefs which I don't believe are necessarily right nor wrong. Of course, I don't expect others to believe the same as I do. I like diversity when it comes to religion,spirituality,ideology. I don't see that as a problem. It's the intolerance of diversity and the discord that results from it that I see is a problem
I will agree to disagree and leave it at that. Raymond
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VenusDeLionesse Knowflake Posts: 150 From: mumbai,india Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 04:18 AM
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VenusDeLionesse Knowflake Posts: 150 From: mumbai,india Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 04:26 AM
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I also don't find India mystic or whatever and would not live there. And I certainly don't like the abrasive way VenusdeIndia is bashing anyone who has that opinion, all the while she talks most spitiful about americans. Hypocritical to the bone!
  Well, who ASKED what you think ? Carl asked if anyone had any astro insights on what makes India intense to HIM ? How does it end up being about YOU ??? And given you are not the one who had the pleasure of my abrasiveness what makes you give your personal judgements ? and YOU are calling ME hypocritical ...
YOU dont mind saying YOU dont find India intense BUT I am Anti-American and hypocritical for saying the same about YOUR country ???? that's like saying - i will call you a nut but i dont like if you do the same to ME. YOU ARE THE HYPOCRITE HERE . This is an Astro forum not LLCentral...duuuuh 
If you are brave enough to accuse me of anti-Americanism you better have something of substance to post as proof so Randall can decide.
If not - your next post better have an admission of it being your " Opinion " rather than a " Fact " Orange do you even know the difference between opinion and fact ? Passing off your personal opinions of me as if it is a Fact that you somehow know about me , a stranger IS A LIE unless you ARE a LIAR you better back yourself up and i will ask Randall to comment on whether he finds it Anti-american. IP: Logged |
pire Knowflake Posts: 880 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 04:28 AM
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/countries/ http://www.dominantstar.com/tra_nationspage.htm cheshire kat, this is for you, and for any one who is interested in DISCUSSING ASTROLOGY IN THE ASTROLOGY FORUM IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1933 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 04:40 AM
venusdeindia,I disagree with you. I am not pointing out how people are right or wrong or whatever. We all have our views,opinions,and beliefs. I keep stressing that. you express yours. I express mine others express theirs I didn't show any intolerance of diversity by disagreeing with somebody said. That's an example of viewpoint that is divergent is part of the diversity of views.
I believe that we should agree to disagree.
think what you want of me. you can call me all kinds of names, tell me about my comprehension dysfunctions, whacked out ego,and other things that doesn't necessarily make them true. any ways...I agree to disagree
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there is no rule in this forum that a person cannot give an opinion,viewpoint on something said in this forum in the form of disagreement with the view of the poster. Raymond IP: Logged |
VenusDeLionesse Knowflake Posts: 150 From: mumbai,india Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 04:42 AM
oh greaaaat, more gems of wisdom, this must be my lucky day  quote: I expressed mine and so did Lucia...so did other people.
And did those intelligent views have any thing to do with astrology honey ?
did they have ANY basis in first hand experiences to warrant any weightage be placed on them ? YOU and Lucia did NOT display your views but your own PREJUDICE and utter IGNORANCE .
Had you two actually lived here for a while i would NEVER have discounted your " views " Also something you should have learnt as a kid - Your " Views " do NOT a FACT make but were you to imply it a FACT that would make you a FRAUD. Portraying yourself as a victim does not make you the good guy. it only makes you a Manipulator who will perform any kind of mental gymnastics to warp his own perception of reality as well as that of others. quote: I believe that everybody is created equal.
Uh...no. we ARE all equal in the eyes of the creator but we NOT created Equal. I dont suffer those dyslexic etc syndromes that you suffer from. and I will never achieve your finesse in astrology . so Glaucus , you and i are NOT EQUALS. If we were we wouldn't have such unequal lives would we ? By stressing your own unrealistic beliefs that everyone is equal what you are trying to do is divide every member into Black and white depending on whether they agree with you. You have done this every time in thread after thread and i have chosen not to indulge your Ego but you crossed a line when you chose to believe your personal prejudices about my motherland are FACTS rather than opinions and declared it as such. Thats called Fraud. quote: I believe in diversity,but I also believe in tolerance and acceptable of diversity as well as that diversity and equality co-exist and do not exclude each other.that's my belief. It doesn't necessarily make it right or wrong.
and has it occurred to You that your own behavior in this thread shows that you do NOT really practice what you claim to believe.
Having high and mighty morals does not make you the good guy unless you practice it diligently. quote: all I did was point out the Untouchable issues in India, and I don't want to be around that type of stuff. I think that people can point out the bad stuff too and not just the good stuff.
your self - delusion is unbelievable  Did you really READ my last post to you ? I didnt say it was wrong u to raise that issue - i said it was in the wrong context, intent and irrelevant . Whacked out Ego is a mild term to describe your Comprehension dysfunstions....brrrr....shivers quote: Just because we expressed views that don't concur with what you believe doesn't really warrant any attacks on us and getting rude and nasty.
First calling ME rude and nasty does not miraculously make me that except in your head. It only makes you a WIMP who needs to cast aspersions at the character of those he cannot outwit . Have you any concept of the interconnection between rights and responsibilities Glaucus ? Yes, you DO have the right to express your views. With that right comes the responsibility of making sure your views are NOT offensive to the sentiments of others. If they are so , it is your responsibility to make sure they have ground in REALITY not in your Personal Insulated Reality You also are responsible by default for anything you express and will be held accountable for it - in any SANE setting. If you cannot be responsible and express views that are respectful or logical do everyone a favor at the cost of your deluded Ego and SHUT UP.
Who said in this thread that I or anyone else has issues with your Self-expression.
It is the errors in your self -expression that you are being HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR. Calling THAT an " ATTACK" does NOT constitute PROOF of an ATTACK. Except in brains as deviod as logic as yours. FACE IT GLAUCUS - YOUR REAL PROBLEM IS THAT I DARED TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR WORDS WHICH YOUR LACK OF STRUCTURE IN LIFE RENDERS YOU INCAPABLE OF . THE LAST TIME YOU WERE HELD TO ACCOUNT FOR WHAT YOU SAID YOU LEFT THIS FORUM. YOU WANT THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS YOUR SELF BUT YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT Sorry no PASS . This aint Kindergarten bro. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1933 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 04:46 AM
venusdeindia,I agree to disagree. peace Raymond IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 682 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 05:46 AM
An interesting article in today's newspaper traced the earliest multicellular organisms to the Vindhya's mountain range in what can be called India's Navel Chakra [orange chakra ]I too find Egypt to have more mystqiue for me but the problem is I know India in and out, hence I dont find it so mysterious. Lexically, India is the country with the smallest amount of letters and yet having DNA in them. INDIA = 12 numerologically, equal to the 12 signs of the Zodiac. the 4 letters in India are A, D, I, N The word NADI is formed with these letters meaning "Psychic Nerve", one through which Kundalini Energy and Chi Energy travels. Notice that China has CHI in it, and India has NADI in it. And these two countries hold more than half of the world's healthy populace. These two could be the Root Chakra and Navel Chakra of Earth. India may have several astrological cycles, there is no one size fits all natal chart for it. I had already given 3 dates. Marjorie Orr detected many earthquakes and the Tsunami with the 1877 chart, many elections have been predicted on the 26th Jan 1950 chart, and so on. 21st April 1526 can also be used to check India's destiny as this was when the first Mughal emperor captured India. This Draconic has a Mystic Sabian for the Sun in 13.3 Cancer: "A Very Old Man Facing A Vast Dark Space To The Northeast". The Soul of India or a Rishi ? This natal also gives Dr Asc conj Dr ANGEL conj Dr OSIRIS in Pisces, proof of the Old Indian Soul... ------------------ Soul Mate Love Calculator http://tamsoft.co.in/articles.html IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 1933 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 06:22 AM
Well...I am already being accused of being delusional,whacked out ego issues,oedipal issues,and not having tolerance of diversity because because I dare point out about the Dalits issue in India and expressing my view that India is no more enlightened,mystical,spiritual than other countries. It's not delusional to believe in having pastlives as an Egyptian Queen or any pastlives. It's not delusional to believe that certain asteroid connections have meaning about pastlives. It's not delusional to talk about twin souls,twin flames,oversouls. It's not delusional to talk about Atlanteans,Lemurians,and Draconians. It's not delusional to talk about alien DNA connected to certain star systems. It's not delusional to talk about Reptilian DNA. It's not delusional to believe in having psychic abilities and be able to do things like energy healing. It's not delusional to believe in auras and the ability to see them. It's not delusional to believe in and practice astrology. Therefore,I don't believe I am delusional to talk about the the terrible plight of Dalits (meaning: oppressed) in India. They are known as the Untouchables.
It's not delusional to believe that all homo sapiens are created equal because we are all human beings that live on our planet,Earth. It's not delusional to believe that all of us should be created equal because we are human beings. It's not delusional to believe that we shouldn't be treated unequally because of the circumstances that we are born in whether its caste,race,nationality,ethnicity,gender,religion. It's not delusional to believe that India no more spiritual,mystical,and enlightened than other countries. If am delusional about pointing out the Dalit problem in India, people can see for themselves if I am delusional or not.
here are videos,documentaries on the Dalits aka Untouchables
There is an organization created to aid Dalits called Dalit Freedom Network The Dalit Freedom Network partners with the Dalits in their quest for religious freedom, social justice, and human rights by mobilizing human, informational, and financial resources. http://www.dalitnetwork.org/ Dalit Freedom Network http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5vCqrAiCV8
Dalit Solidarity http://www.dalitsolidarity.org/untouchability.php
http://www.untouchables.org/home.php More stuff on the Dalits aka Untouchables http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAdYtDLp0hU&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAdYtDLp0hU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBxy1R0jitM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1l-x7708zY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK-zM9izrbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rfKDJalrMo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1CY48_Tmho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prJlqSmKblU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrswpEHc_xk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfpUXQem0C0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKLnGkHMr9k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNANFT676V0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG4tVuWuz9I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMVh9l8llq0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKk_9wGL3QA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd8YwCdi6fg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dd2g9VLv8Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leWWGTK21is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsNpMstCoeo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjHAz0khz00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYpvnMks1HE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZKa1EGdSCM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2jLDSrVUsY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNY5BLIv1jw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38UlKdrebIA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDu6v-fq6Go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dvu9MSy07E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of20QpnO8Zo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_r4VF2FRbk Here is stuff on the Black Untouchables of India http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz732ezwcsU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2jMTfVYXfw&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNYYTg5zloM&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1aqLelymiI&feature=related
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DD Knowflake Posts: 1840 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 07:01 AM
To all:I apologize, but I will ignore all the posts about bashing or not bashing. I still have the hope that we can make this an astrological thread again (I understand everyone who wants to defend themselves, but I really fear, that one word will lead to another, until it`s all just shouting and insulting; I don`t want to get pulled into this - just an explantion for why I won`t reply to these things). Venus, Roma on the SN? Do you think you`ve had a past life in Rome?
ROMA (and the babylonian city UR) is conjunct my MOON and trines my KARMA DIANA conjuncts my HERMES on 14-15 Capricorn DIANA / HERMES also trine SPHINX
OVIDIUS conjunct MC and PLUTO (and also TRANSYLVANIA) and is exactly sextile ASC and exactly trines DRACO MOON and squares Venus. OVIDIUS also conjuncts my DR KARMA.
I am a Latin teacher and I have often wondered why it was so easy for me to speak Latin, not necessarily the literary form, but I think I am the only teacher at our school, who really talks Latin with her pupils (I give the translation later, of cousre). It just has felt so natural speaking Latin from the first day I came across this language. And sometimes when I tell my pupils something about Rome or about what happened, it feels like I am getting that knowledge from somewhere deeper than mere memory of my studies. I think and have always thought so, that if I have had a past life in Rome, it was during the Ovidian time, when Augustus reigned. AUGUSTA conjuncts my DR DNA And trines my PLUTO. OCTAVIA conjuncts NILUS, which makes sense at least to me. During the first century the ISIS cult was very strong in Rome. And it just felt so familiar, since ever I heard about the ISIS cult for the first time, when reading that book by Apuleius, in which also a description of the Eros-Psyche-story was. It all is connected I guess. BTW OVIDIUS squares ISIS, and APULEIUS conjuncts my URANUS and UNION and REGINA (Queen) and opposes my DR ISIS. CLAUDIUS - my favourite emperor- is conjunct ROMULUS, the founder of Rome, in Leo nevertheless and trines KLEOPATRA and CAESAR on my SUN and also trine CHIRON in Aries.
NILUS is on 13-14 Libra on the exact degree of my APHRODITE and opposes my PART of REINCARNATION exactly; it also opposes my GIZA on 10 Aries, quinkunx my SPHINX on 13 Taurus, trines my IMHOTEP on 11 GEmini (on my SN, haha) and squares my TUTENCHAMUN on 13 Cancer. Hmm, that is interesting. Sorry, I got a bit carried away with the Roman asteroids. 
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Redstar Knowflake Posts: 115 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 07:18 AM
Wow DD what phenomenal aspects pertaining to Rome and the Roman civilization. Makes sense that Latin came so easily to you.*takes off her hat to the Latin teacher - too few of you around these days* IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 56 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 12:58 PM
VenusDeIndia, you are crazy, on top of being hypocritical and frustrated. I don't find any of your posts interesting. Yeah, that's my opinion and I am entitled to it, ask me or not. Beat it.btw, you don't have to use bold or capital letters to make your point. You are pathetically loud enough IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 1840 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 01:04 PM
Redstar,well, the latin studies were tough, much to learn. But certain things really came easy to me, especially the history, mythology and some vocabulary. But yes I was a bit surprised, too, about the strong aspects to these asteroids. Funny though, I am reading with my pupils mainly the work (myth) of Ovidius, and Ovidius is conjunct my MC. That is just too good.  IP: Logged | |