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Topic: Not Attracted to Conventional Beauty Standards
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aquarian/scorpio
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From: Middle Earth
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 30, 2009 05:23 AM
  
Hmm it's a crazy mixture for me..I thinik the Aries description knocks it on the head for the start and then the Libra/Scorpio description. Just different bit from each of those three signs discriptions combined. I like a man who's masculine in appearence and a good height say 5'11" is nice for me as i'm only 5'2" but i have also bin told i'm like pretty boys but they exude that masculine energy.  Funny I don't really go for unconventional considering my Aqua Sun and Sag stellium. My Scorpio Moon is very pronounced, especially being conjunct Pluto, in the 7TH House AND Venus (Lord of my 7H) being in Scorpios natural house.
Scorpionic Web
It's great to know a man appreciates femininity in a woman. AC Aries
Sun Aquarius 11H
Moon Scorpio 7H
Venus Sagittarius 8H
Mars Aries 12H IP: Logged |
wheels of cheese
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posted June 30, 2009 06:06 AM
LIBRA influence: Places a huge priority on conventional beauty, even if he/she pretends not to...which he/she usually does, because conventional beauty standards offend the Libra sense of justice. Even though it goes against their principles, though, they aren't attracted to fat people or plain people. They like showiness, too...if you are dating a Libra man and you put on a dress and makeup, he will gawp over how pretty you are, even if you're no prettier (and considerably less comfy) than you were in your jeans and chapstick. I don't fit this at all. I don't like showy people (I like a scruffbag with stubble) and have gone out with fat bald short people who were sexy as hell. IP: Logged |
Milk of Rafflesia
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From: Dallas, TX
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posted June 30, 2009 07:40 AM
I'm very into unconventional, "geeky" men, which I've always attributed to my Mars/Merc./Venus stellenium in Virgo... I guess I just appreciate the little things that make a person special, and I can relate easily to someone who appears to be unloved or an underdog. Then again, I've never been in a legitimate relationship, so don't listen to me, lol IP: Logged |
Choc
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posted June 30, 2009 07:44 AM
Scorpionic Web, I need your phone number now! What does a "conventionally good-looking" partner looks like? My "good-looking" is not your "good-looking".
I do fall for a guy that is quirky, unusual, dreamy, dedicated, funny and cute yet serious and dignified.
Someone that is fatherly and unconventionally attractive.
Also I don't care about age/weight/physical condition. I can appreciate stereotypicall good looks [like Jude Law or Ryan Reynolds for example] but most of the times, that type of man leaves me cold. I'm like "yeah, whatever.."
Artificial beauty is a no no. When it comes to the ladies, I like voluptuous women too.
I generally fancy people that look like they enjoy life to the fullest. Cancer Sun/Moon/Mars
Gemini Venus opposed by Uranus
Virgo ASC
5th H in Capricorn - Saturn in Scorpio
Jupiter in the 5th
7th H in Pisces - Neptune in Capricorn
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blue moon
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From: U.K
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 30, 2009 09:07 AM
I'm less interested in looks than in a pleasing voice, the ability to say something intelligent and maybe to burst into tuneful song. No need to look too far for this astrologically - I have Gemini Sun, and Venus Conjunct Mercury in Taurus - all in the 7th house. Besides which biologically I am very short-sighted. Take off my artificial aids and I can't see anything anyway. I need to hear something pleasing. IP: Logged |
comica23
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posted June 30, 2009 09:43 AM
Taurus Mars/Aries Venus here. X3 I like guys who are simple, natural, masculine and tall (not much muscles or produced). I like Leo's artistic features X3 but found myself more attracted to Libra/Scorpio features often.I guess that I don't have much demands on the physical features, as long as he's taller than me and looks normal lol~ ^.^; But I do pay a lot of attention in the inner charm. They do make you physically look good, if you have a good amount of inner charm. X3 And I like intelligence/maturity, sense of humor and caring/selflessness (Virgo AC/Pisces DC). My bf is Scorpio/Pisces/Pisces, with Libra Venus/Virgo Mars. When we met, I didn't pay much attention to his looks, coz he wasn't exactly my dream type, but I started to like him for his way of being, and then only after some time did I really started to notice that he was actually kinda handsome lol.. ^_^; He actually have those features I've described, and he also has nice Scorpio/Pisces eyes (I know a few Pisces Mooners, and they seem to have puppy eyes lol). And funny is, lately I've just discovered that he has Sun conjunct Adonis. X3 IP: Logged |
amowls*
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posted June 30, 2009 10:26 AM
I LOVE huge noses. Idk why.My DSC is in Sag? IP: Logged |
swirl-kitt
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posted June 30, 2009 12:32 PM
I'm a scorpio and I would date someone in a wheelchair , or who is limp, or blind or has some acne, or slightly overweight lol. I was attracted to people who were in these situations before. But I never thought they weren't beautiful. I thought they were kind of hot but I admit it was also about the fact that they would need me more than a good looking guy with none of these features would. I usually like average looking guys because I'm average too I think  But to me they are cute and sexy of course. It's more about the aura of a person. IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted June 30, 2009 01:30 PM
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I usually like average looking guys because I'm average too I think
One thing I notice (during this very very lonely phase in my own life) is that most people in couples are with people who kind of look like they "match" with them. IP: Logged |
Shankara
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From: Sarasota, FL
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 30, 2009 02:30 PM
Lucia, I saw a documentary about dating/mating once, and they used the term 'cutegory' to describe this phenomenon. They did an experiment where a group of men and women and cards on their heads that they couldn't see. The cards has a number from 1 to 10 (1-10 for men and 1-10 for women), and they would try to match up with someone of the opposite sex. The objective was to try to get the highest number they could. By the end of the experiment the participants pretty much knew about what number they had based on the eagerness of the other paricipants in tying to pair off with them. By the end the participants had paired off with someone who had about the same number they did. Then they did the same experiment without the cards. Before this, the women had rate the men and the men had rated the women in terms of attractiveness, with only one man being the '10,' one being the '9,' etcetera. By the end they had paired up with people who were rated the pretty much same as they were, showing that we know our basic level of attractiveness and know what level of attractiveness we can 'get' n a mate. Of course, money, intelligence, social standing, fame, and the like play into this as well. IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted June 30, 2009 02:35 PM
Very interesting!As a Leo, I actually hate the idea of being rated on a linear scale. Of course I wish I was off the charts! That's why Leos have to become icons (Mick Jagger, etc) I guess. :/ There's little that sounds worse to me than trying to "settle" because I'm not the most perfect person on the planet--I want the sky to be the limit in my partner's brilliance and allure! And I want him to think I am completely unique, wonderful, magical, and un-substitutable. IP: Logged |
Shankara
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From: Sarasota, FL
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posted June 30, 2009 02:40 PM
I must admit I'm attracted to conventional beauty standards for the most part. Libra Sun, Aqua rising, and Leo Descendant, Venus, Mars, Sun-Moon MP, and several other asteroids.I like tall men, since I'm 5'10. Though my ex-fiance was only 5'7, and not really what could be called attractive. I don't think it's a character flaw to find the typically unattractive attractive. It's just inborn biology to be attractive to certain traits and repelled by others. However, whenever I see those magazines that list the most attractive men, I never agree. I'm just not into Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Patrick Dempsey, Johnny Depp, Chase Crawford, Orlando Bloom, or whomever else usually ends up on these lists. I like guys more like John Krasinski or Lee Pace from Pushing Daises. Or Morrissey from around 1989. IP: Logged |
Choc
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posted June 30, 2009 03:17 PM
Lee Pace and John Krasinski are not "conventionally" good-looking though  IP: Logged |
Shankara
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From: Sarasota, FL
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 30, 2009 03:32 PM
Yes, I know, and that's why I used to think I had unconventional tastes. Morrissey, especially in the '80's, was never a masculine kind of guy either. But none of them are in a wheelchair, are obese, or have bad acne, so according to this thread, my tastes are conventional.IP: Logged |
eve
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From: jane
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 30, 2009 03:47 PM
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SCORPIO influence: these people will often be attracted to unconventional-looking partners, or different ages, races, etc...NOT because they prefer that beauty standard, but just because, in looking for deeper connections and transformational relationships, they seek out chemistry at the vibe level more than looking at appearance.
I don't have a Sco Sun, but this fits me. I think I'm a bit backwards. Although I'm probably constantly perceiving appearances, it's on more of a subliminal level. My awareness is focused more on people's energy and how our energies connect. It's about chemistry for me.
When someone is on the extreme in looks, I of course notice that, but with the bulk of people it's something else about them that gets my attention. Like BM, I'm also very attracted to voice. Every guy I've been in a relationship with has had a voice that, from the first words they spoke, I found exceptionally attractive. Saying my focus isn't on looks, I feel a bit like a hypocrite when I look back on the 4 serious relationships I've had. Each guy would probably get the societal consensus for being good-looking. But, except with one, it wasn't their looks that I initially noticed about them. Their looks were incidental, what I wanted about them was the way I felt connected with them. One of the guys I fell for before I even got a good look at him. We had a college class together. The first time he spoke up in class, I loved his voice and his mind. I couldn't see him clearly from my seat, but with each comment he made I wanted him more. When I finally did get a look at him, I thought he was gorgeous, when objectively he's nice-looking in an average way. But to me he was an Adonis. Or to be more specific, to me he looked like Ewan McGregor. No one else I knew saw him that way. I would dreamily point out the resemblance, and they'd finally acquiesce just to shut me up. IP: Logged |
vertiver
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From: Firey Jupiter
Registered: May 2009
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posted June 30, 2009 04:18 PM
Thats great that everyone can describe the kind of person they like etc.. But astrologically speaking, what makes people more prone to stray away from ideal standards of beauty/appearances? IP: Logged |
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posted June 30, 2009 04:28 PM
I like people's laughter and a sense of humor..someone who giggles every now and then. I have no astrological explanation for that..O.o Conventional/Unconventional confuses me, is dyded hair and tattoo's unconventional..and flawless model look conventional but what if the model as freckles..I am confused lol. I stopped looking for unconventional/conventional beauty a while ago and just let people be. IP: Logged |
Unmoved
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posted June 30, 2009 04:33 PM
Hello eve *dirty wink*To answer vertiver's Q, I'd say that my Venus (Virgo) square Uranus (Sag) is responsible for my somewhat non-orthodox taste in men, or in anything that I find attractive for that matter. My Scorpio influences (Asc, Mars, Jupiter, etc) make me look deeper than the skin so I am unlikely to pay attention to the "norm". My Cancer Moon makes me more emotionally driven than aesthetically motivated. I feel things, and seldom see things. This moon is sextile the Healer Chiron ... so I'm "deep" (yeah, cliche, but true) I'm more concerned with underlying currents. So, if a guy turns out to be conventional looking, it probably just happened coincidentally, not because I was particularly looking for conventional, as eve said because I always agree with eve. IP: Logged |
Yin
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posted June 30, 2009 04:45 PM
What I've always been attracted to can simply be described as warmth.
It's a special type of energy of comfort and homeyness with a pinch of I'll-save-you-from-yourself.Looks usually have had nothing to do with the above. The only thing I pay attention to is the eyes and they way people use them. That is how I connect. Yin,
Mars in Leo
Moon in the 8th
Pluto conjunct NN in the 8th IP: Logged |
eve
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From: jane
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 30, 2009 05:20 PM
Ooh baby, I got a dirty wink from Unmoved!  vertiver - Sorry, I forgot the most important part! I think I'm more focused on the non-physical for a few reasons... -Strong Neptune, most significant is probably it being cnj my Sun. -Strong 12th house. Home of my chart ruler and Sun/Moon mp. -Water Asc -Heavily aspected Moon. I can relate to how Unmoved described her moon's influence: "more emotionally driven than aesthetically motivated". -Strong Uranus. In the 1st house cnj Mercury (also squares Moon). I don't really think in terms of conventional/unconventional. -Venus in the 3rd. Love the mind and voice. -Some love asteroids in water signs: Juno (Cancer), Eros (Pisces), Lust & Valentine (Scorpio). Once I'm in a relationship with someone, I do focus very much on him physically. Physical affection is important to me (Sun in the 2nd and a Taurus Dsc). It's just that what makes me physically attracted to someone has more to do with what's on the inside than the outside, simply because that's my default area of awareness. IP: Logged |
vertiver
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From: Firey Jupiter
Registered: May 2009
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posted June 30, 2009 06:48 PM
Yeah, back to astrology! Like everyone else, the appearance is second to a good personality with a sense of humor of course (seriousness is so tiring), and lots of verbal exchanges is what really lights my fire!
I used to really be into that tall and gangly look with slightly greasy hair and a distinctive nose, well I still am, but I'm pretty much open to anything. I also appreciate people who look very distinctive but not necessarily considered attractive, like Joey Ramone!
I guess having a Sag. Asc. with Gemini Venus opposing Saturn and Uranus in Sag. adds to liking obscure looks! IP: Logged |
Coffee
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posted June 30, 2009 07:05 PM
I like how a person looks physically, but also how they look...to ***** what the personlaity is like. Both looks and personaity come under the same house.Not all good looking people have a great personality. The ASC will give the facial features and "mask" of the person, while the sign placement of 1st ruler will give more of an idea about real personality. I am Aquarian, so look weird and different, and may come across as that. Uranus in Scorpio says I could be controlling for good or bad. Or the Scorpio "see through shiate stuff" which Id rather prefer.
While the conjunction to Mars is excellent (I think so anyway) the square to Venus in Leo could well mean I have periods of arrogant lazy a-hole behaviour. The conjunction to Mars will say something about my head - prominent in some way. Flip that desription around and you have when you will look for in a partner. House 7 IP: Logged |
Agent_009
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From: Planet Shining
Registered: May 2009
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posted June 30, 2009 07:18 PM
I have Libra Rising & a huge Libra stellium. I definitely admire conventional beauty standards as works of art. However, what does it for me is highly intelligent men (overides physical beauty anyday). I also LOVE androgeny in men & women.IP: Logged |
Azalaksh
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posted June 30, 2009 07:57 PM
wheels ~ quote:
LIBRA influence: Places a huge priority on conventional beauty, even if he/she pretends not to...which he/she usually does, because conventional beauty standards offend the Libra sense of justice. Even though it goes against their principles, though, they aren't attracted to fat people or plain people. They like showiness, too...if you are dating a Libra man and you put on a dress and makeup, he will gawp over how pretty you are, even if you're no prettier (and considerably less comfy) than you were in your jeans and chapstick.
I don't fit this at all. I don't like showy people (I like a scruffbag with stubble) and have gone out with fat bald short people who were sexy as hell.
Ditto here!! I can look at those pics that the Godzalians puts up of the "hunks" -- and there are definitely some I drool over -- but that's all it is, I just drool and go on my way
There's a fella I'm quite attracted to now who doesn't have much hair on top, wears glasses, and has a pot belly -- but that superficial stuff doesn't even figure in my equation. He had me the first time he called me Princess 
Give me scruffy & stubbled with a quick wit (and a warm heart)!!  I don't care what you do for a living
I don't care what kind of car you drive
All I wanna know right now is what you believe in
And what it means to you to be alive The Pisces description rings a lot truer for me..... ~ Aqua DSC (**gives eve a dirty wink cuz she loves it**) IP: Logged |
stopandstare
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posted June 30, 2009 10:54 PM
i'm by no means an expert in astrology, but just based on what i've read about my venus which is in gemini, perhaps for me it's because i prize someone's intellect that that being hand in hand with beauty may not always be so complementary. so maybe that somehow leads to sometimes not liking conventional beauty? however, i have a leo rising so maybe some of that vanity has a tug of war with the intellectual gemini venus. my preference is for someone who is attractive (think the sort of feminine fair features/tall and lean gq model types). but then the other part of me needs someone who's serious-minded and smart and complex...almost like a contradiction. it's like they're really good looking yet you don't think they'd be so smart or serious a person. but then i find that's what i'm like and how i'm described as being. so to add to the messages about people being with people who look like them, i tend to go for people who are like me in personality (first and foremost) and have similar physical features to me (which i think is more subconscious than conscious). i am mixed race so i don't consider myself conventional but i have "conventional" traits like the big eyes, full lips, long thick hair, long legs, oval face...zzzzzz.....however, my personality and how i am as a person is not what most people would think i would be just based on my looks.
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