posted September 27, 2009 12:23 PM         

I checked the transits when he fled the USA on February 1, 1978.
I believe that's highly relevant. His escaping justice and now he's brought to justice.

transiting retrograde Saturn in 28'18 leo conjunct his south lunar node in 28'35 leo in 11th. That seemed like a karmic time. A time that he was restricted too. He was in prison for 42 days. That was during that transit.

transiting retrograde Pluto in 16'38 libra conjunct his ascendant in 15'22 Libra in 1st indicate his life being transformed and also change of environment.

transiting Sun conjunct his retrograde Saturn in 5th highlights the karmic issues involving children

transiting Jupiter in 26'39 Gemini in 9th square his Venus in 26'14 virgo in 12th and his jupiter 25'16 Virgo in 12th indicates a time of expansion,long distance travel,and freeing himself.

now he gets arrested with transiting Saturn conjunct the Venus-Jupiter in 12th

transiting jupiter square his Venus-Jupiter in 12th - He was lucky, he got away

transiting Saturn conjunct his Venus-Jupiter brings him back

Transiting retrograde Varuna was in 9'33 Geminig square to his Neptune in 9'21 Virgo in 12th. That indicate justice that involved prison. He was in prison during that transit.

Transiting Ixion was in 12'38 Scorpio square his retrograde Saturn in Aquarius in 5th, and this could indicate sexual karmic transit involving children.

His natal Ixion is in 28'23 Virgo conjunct his Venus which rules his 1st house (self) and 8th house (sex).

Transiting Quaoar in 11'10 Scorpio was squaring his retrograde Saturn in Aquarius in 5th too.

transneptunian transits indicate evolutionary intensified lessons/experiences.

any ways......it seems that you can be lucky and get away with Jupiter transits, even hard Jupiter transits but you can end up paying your dues during hard Saturn transits....even it's over 30 years ago.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 27, 2009 12:24 PM         

The idiot pled guilty and then fled the country, so what people also don't get is that 1. he admitted his guilt and 2. decided he could **** with the court system.

posted September 27, 2009 12:52 PM         

Transiting Venus-South Lunar Node conjunction was in his 7th house in opposition to his Mars in 1st house conjuncted by transiting North Lunar Node can indicate a karmic sexual transit. Transiting Venus-South Lunar Node was conjunct his Pluto in 10th. a time of lust that could be costly for him and effect his reputation.

Transiting Mars in 5th oppose Sun in 11th could indicate a time of violence,passion,aggression involving children

Transiting Jupiter in Taurus in his 8th trine 1st/8th house ruler Venus-Jupiter in 12th seems good for getting what he wants when it comes to sex.

There was an exaction conjunction of retrograde Uranus and retrograde Ixion in 11'31 Scorpio in his 2nd house square his retrograde Saturn in 12'06 Aquarius in 5th.
This seems like the unpredictable,sudden sex karmic time involving children.

Transiting Varuna was in 8'13 Gemini in his 9th square his Neptune in 9'21 Virgo in 12th. This can indicate a time where he could be involved conflicted in the law and potential prison time.

Transiting Uranus was semisquare his 1st/8th house ruler Venus with 16 minutes of arc applying, and that can unpredictable events involving sex,intimacy.

Transiting Saturn was semisquare his Jupiter in 12th with 31 minutes of arc applying. This could indicate a time of making poor judgment that he will end up paying dearly for.
Transiting Saturn was semisquare his Venus in 12th with 26 minutes of arc separating.
so Transiting Saturn was semisquare the Venus-Jupiter conjunction, and so also semisquaring the Venus/Jupiter midpoint. poor judgment involving intimacy that could lead to him paying dearly.

Transiting Uranus-Saturn was in an 8th harmonic transit to his Venus-Jupiter actually.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 27, 2009 02:01 PM         

I also think it's pretty scary to blame the 13 year old girl or claim the she was 'asking for it' after having been drugged and protesting. The act of middle aged man drugging, raping and sodomizing a 13 year old girl is evil regardless of how much of a 'genius' he may be. Anyone else with less resources would have been put jail long ago.

posted September 27, 2009 02:29 PM         

I'm saying "god damn the Justice system is so WARPED".

posted September 27, 2009 02:44 PM         

and then the judge changed his mind after the fact. isn't this called double jeopardy or something like that?

whether plea bargaining is morally okay or not, it is common practice.

i don't like the man and it's OBVIOUS he likes young women, but he did time, paid damages and has been paying the price ever since in terms of loss of income and freedom to come and go.

posted September 27, 2009 02:49 PM         

"It's a one off case. He is not a paedophile. He is a man who ****** up because his wife and unborn childs murder destroyed him."

"Just in case you all think i'm sticking up for a paedo."

Do you really believe you're not defending him?

"The film business will be in uproar."

What a loss!

"Of course she is over it... several million $'s over it!!
It made her life. Look at it unemotionally, will ya."

It's a cruel thing to say.
Yeah, you're truly unemotional.

posted September 27, 2009 04:32 PM         

Yeah...I was blown away by that exact transiting Saturn conjunct his Venus.

After I read about his arrest in Switzerland in regards to that old sex crime, I figured that he must have a major hard Saturn transit in connection to his 8th house and/or the planets, Mars or Venus.

sure enough, transit Saturn smack on that 8th house ruler,Venus in the 12th house.

Transiting Varuna (justice,judgment) conjunct his Moon (women) in 10th makes sense too.

this stuff has strengthened my belief in Astrology, especially when it comes to transits.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 27, 2009 05:02 PM         

His Draconic Sun is at 26º Virgo. T.Saturn is exactly cnj it. These events may be in accordance with what he needs, and even he, on some level, realizes that.

posted September 27, 2009 05:06 PM         

Wow!

that is very interesting

I don't look at Draconics stuff. I know very little about them.

They seem very valid and worth exploring!

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted September 27, 2009 05:33 PM         

I'm ALL about emotion and i stand by what i said.

posted September 27, 2009 06:06 PM         

If this guy IS extradited and sent to court, what if the victim refuses to testify because she wants to put it behind her and/or it was already settled in her mind? Should she get a subpoena to appear? What if she still refuses?

Don't get me wrong. I don't excuse what he did under any circumstances, and sounded to me like even though he fled, he got off way too light at the time. Still, I don't see a point in this at this time as the victim has, for whatever reason, put it behind her (and it may cause her further harm at this point to reopen old wounds), and I doubt the guy is a threat to society anymore. The California justice system is also under extreme financial distress at this time, too (with plenty of crimes done today to deal with).

That said, the only way the murder of his wife would make my sympathize with his crime is if it was a vigilante assault on one of the killers or burning down where the Manson family had stayed (as stupid as destroying a crime scene like that would be if he wanted the maximize the chances of the prosecution to succeed, assuming it happened about as soon as charges were filed). Strikes me as irrelevant for hurting a child, however. And I'm not talking punishment really, but the safety of society against a proven menace.

Ah well, it's pretty historical to me though. Interesting astrological commentary Glaucus.

posted September 27, 2009 06:13 PM         

Second, sorry, but defending a paedophile and saying that he needs compassion makes you very much unemotional in my eyes.

I dont need to re-align my perspective. You're the one who should do this.

I remember that you did the same thing in Mike Tyson thread.

posted September 27, 2009 06:26 PM         

Enough. He's in his late 70s.
It's on his own conscience and that's the bottom line.

posted September 27, 2009 06:34 PM         

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but he did time, paid damages

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and has been paying the price ever since in terms of loss of income and freedom to come and go.

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posted September 27, 2009 06:36 PM         

The victim not "caring" doesn't matter. You have to look at it from a legal perspective: If the victim didn't want to press charges, they could be intimidated into not prosecuting even if they really want to, so it's a matter of the law having to account for the precedent that could scarily be set.

posted September 27, 2009 06:39 PM         

how can you say that not everyone deserves compassion? How can compassion have boundaries?

No wonder the world is such a negative and messy place if compassion and love come with limitations :-S

posted September 27, 2009 06:44 PM         

And you guys have ZERO imagination too.
You want justice?
Fine:
He's a brilliant filmmaker who is able to glean a great deal into the darkness of the psyche.
You have him do a documentary or film about young girls being sexually abused and raped. You have him work on it and create it into a coherent story.
Then you release the film with a public announcement for the reason of the project.
Then you take the money which the movie makes and you donate it to the right charities for this case.
Win/Win.
Justice served.
Case closed.
Moving on.