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Diana
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posted December 13, 2009 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good luck. I hope it all ends in your favor.

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vapor-lash
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posted December 13, 2009 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm extremely disappointed in the system. I just hate what happened to you.

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If you told them you havnt had support and you have been struggling then they will temporary take your baby till you have been evaluated and your living circumstances have been assessed.

Many times people are honest in these situations - because they think their honesty is just common sense. I mean it really is common sense that a single mother with two children can have problems, mainly if one of the children has health concerns. This does not make you an unfit parent.

If you were speaking to another human being - they would understand. But Child Protective Services are not "human beings" in this context. They are agents and they are paid to do a very set-out and particular job. They have particular boxes to tick.

As I understood your story, you were initially honest and gave them reasons to tick the wrong boxes. As long as this story is altered to make you seem as responsible and financially secure as humanly possible - they will tick the right boxes and I'm positive they will give you your daughter back.
I'm sure everything will end well. I'm really hoping you get her back as soon as possible, before Christmas.. It's great to hear that you managed to get a good lawyer!

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Dee
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posted December 13, 2009 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wondered if you thought of getting one of these and taking it to the doctors and social services
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000HX6SIS/ref=asc_df_B000HX6SIS984016?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=googlecom09c9-20&linkCode=asn&creative=380341&creativeASIN=B000HX6SIS

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Cynnared
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posted December 14, 2009 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a digital voice recorder from my stand up comedy days. I tested it last week and it works just fine.

We are waiting for a court date and then we can get things set up with the lawyer. I did talk to him today and he would take the case. He sounded up beat a bit....

I sent a complaint into the Health services and a heard back from a lady today, who said she would send it to the patient advocate. We shall see where things go now.

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aka Kat
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posted December 16, 2009 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
double post.

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aka Kat
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posted December 16, 2009 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting I wonder what this has to do with astrology. I noticed that the moderator has locked several other topics that have "gone astray" yet this one has accumulated over 50 responses.

What gives??

I guess we've learned that we could just add birth date information and talk about anything.

The fact is that no one just takes away a kid unless they have built a file on the case. Is this an accident, unjustified? I don't know.I only hope this is unjustified because you are getting much sympathy here. This type of discussion should be with an attorney and a therapist.

You sound very young.

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listenstotrees
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posted December 16, 2009 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All my love to you Cynnared, please do not blame yourself.

Unfortunately, this sort of thing is widespread.
http://stolenkids-bloggers.blogspot.com/

Great idea, Dee.

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PeaceAngel
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posted December 16, 2009 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aka Kat

Compassion goes a long way. Your post is a bit spiteful. This thread was opened with the intention of astrological insight. It may have erred from the astrology but there's always the possibility that someone may offer something astrologically insightful and helpful on this really sensitive subject. Threads that aren't astrology related are moved to their relevant forum. I think Cyn could use all the help and insight possible right now. Back to the thread...

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Cynnared
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posted December 16, 2009 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was an astrological transit based question with the event moment put down as well - to find out insights via transits.

At the moment my 12th house Saturn is getting hit hard by 3 planets - which squares my 4/10 house axis in my chart. Oh not to mention my Natal Pluto is getting hit too, but not as bad a Saturn/IC/MC etc....

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Dee
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posted December 16, 2009 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks LTT,

http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC=%7B21242FC7-6B66-470F-A878-BCBF22933624%7D
http://fightcps.com/ http://kidjacked.com/

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Cynnared
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posted December 20, 2009 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The TGO ends on March 2/10 and I actually have 2 months to get things in order. My boyfriend will be applying for custody of the baby and I am not sure if it will throw a wrench into things. So far I can talk, at ease, with the caseworker assigned to us.

Today my heart is heavy and my broken heart just throbs in pain. I'm not in the holiday spirit and it looks to be a black christmas. We don't even get to see the baby on christmas.

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seeker3030
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posted December 20, 2009 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeker3030     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My heart goes out to you! My son is so precious to me so I can totally understand how you must feel and I truly hope the court finds in your favour and you get you little one back xxx

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posted December 20, 2009 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
God! It's the first time reading this thread. I am so sorry you went through this! I really hope that things turn out positively. Losing your child in this manner must be more painful than anything I've ever experienced.

My heart goes out to you.

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kindredcayce
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posted December 23, 2009 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kindredcayce     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CynnaRed,
How are things going?

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iQ
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posted December 25, 2009 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Astrology related to this sorrowful event of injustice:
Cynnared has Venus conj NIOBE in 6 Pisces exact and this is squared by Jupiter exact from 6 Sag. Niobe in myth tragically loses her children because of Apollo and Artemis' blind support to their wronged mom Leto.
ARTEMIS conjuncts Cynnared's Sun and APOLLO is retrograde in Cynnared's chart and on the day of the unfortunate event, Asteroid CHILD was conjunct Apollo and Moon transited over Niobe.

There was plenty of bad luck as well with Natal TYCHE on Descendant opp FORTUNA, transit asteroid KAALI on descendent and Natally Kaali and Saturn are both in 12th.
Progresseed Sun was conjunct Natal Saturn in 12th!

Moreover, Transit NIOBE was conjunct the baby's Asteroid CHILD on 25th Nov 2009.
The Baby has Natal Fortuna opp Tyche, and Transit APOLLO conj Baby's ARTEMIS on the fateful day whilst T-Squaring Baby's TYCHE and FORTUNA.

By the Law of the Pendulum and balancing of Karma, things will improve in Feb 2010 because:
Tr Jupiter and Sun will conjunct N NIOBE.

Tr NIOBE will conjunct N CHILD

KAALI will enter Aquarius on 25th Feb. The baby has Aquarius Ascendant.... there could be very severe retribution for those who caused distress to Cynnared and her baby.

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Cynnared
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posted December 25, 2009 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmmmm severe retribution to those who have caused the distress - I have put in a complaint into health services and I'm waiting their response. Injustice - what a perfect way to put it.

I've been talking to my friends about this and they think it is a huge load of nonsense. I told them the reasons why they took the baby away and they said it didn't make sense and did not seem valid enough to even warrant the baby going away.

I'm managing here. I have been able to get my anxiety down and I can eat again. I can sleep now as well too and have been off the prescriptions for a week now because they seemed to make things worse for me.

We saw the baby yesterday and she was dressed up in a cute christmas outfit. She was so happy to see us and was full of big smiles. I'm sort of in Christmas mode but not really.

My boyfriend's mother is still verbally crapping on me and won't let it go. She is trying to make my life hell. She seems to be very psycho. I have resolved not to talk to her cause I have enough stuff happening in my life than to listen to her on the phone.

Boyfriend's data
Jan 30, 1971 Windsor, Nova Scotia 10:10 PM

My boyfriend has applied for guardianship of the baby - cause the judge said that he has no legal rights to her because we didn't live together for a year before the baby was born. So we are going back to court on Jan 29/10 around 10 AM.....

We have heard from a psychologist to get assessments done and that is on Jan 5th around 130 pm. I don't know what to think about that. My first impression about the dr is uncertain - there is no good feeling or bad feeling with him.

On a positive note, I think I will be going back on stage to do stand up - I'm feeling some support there. I've got to work on my new material. I was jamming the other night and sang 4 songs - I'm slowly starting to feel like my usual self.

Cynn

PS. On another note I haven't studied the asteriods that much so I'm not sure what the meanings are.

Thank you all!

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Lara
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posted December 25, 2009 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry cynnared

This is just so tragic and full of BS. I've never heard of so much crap in all my life - i hope all those involved lose their jobs.

I found it touching that your daughter was so happy to see you but it also breaks my heart as she is missing you and it is her right to be with you

I send you a HUGE hug and love on this Christmas Day that should have been your 1st christmas together. You are a brave and good woman and you have my respect and support.

Lara xx

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posted December 25, 2009 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just an idea would it help get your baby back if you and your boyfriend get married. i dont know it thats what you want but it might give you two more power in court and make it harder for them to fight you

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Cynnared
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posted December 25, 2009 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think I could advocate marriage for the sake of the child. I figure marriage is for those who want to marry for love - when i found out I was pregnant with my first daughter, my ex's grandma pressured us into getting married - the relationship between him and I was getting to be a nightmare. But then I was never one to walk down the aisle. The boyfriend brings up marriage and i figure it's not for me. I don't need a paper to show that I am in a committed relationship.

In regards to CPS - I am doing what needs to be done and the caseworker finds that I am highly motivated to get things done and quite dedicated.

I still have to go deal with health services and the complaint I put in with them.

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posted December 25, 2009 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cynnared, my heart goes out to you. I would be like a mad woman if my kid was taken away from me.

Now, IQ has me checking where Niobe, Child, Artemis and Apollo are in my natal chart.

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Cynnared
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posted December 26, 2009 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would not wish what I have gone through on anybody. When they took her away, I had a horrible anxiety attack and was not able to self manage. My boyfriend took me to the emergency and when I got there I could not even speak - all I could do is cry my eyes out. I had to write a note to the nurse to communicate. They kept me in hospital for 8 days. It took around 3 weeks for me to settle down and now I can eat and sleep fine.

We were watching the 3rd installment of Star Wars and at the end Padma's babies had to be given away - I cried my eyes out and then became upset that the doctors down at the hospital again.

My poor cancer moon...........

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posted December 26, 2009 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're definitely lucky that you had someone there to take care of you. A lot of women go through situations like this, up to and including death of their children, and are completely alone

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posted December 26, 2009 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know what I would have done without him - for months I had no independence and I was that sick....it is like I lost "my life"...... yeah most folks have to spend time alone when stuff happens......

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Cynnared
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posted December 28, 2009 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
tonight I can't sleep and the anxiety of the situation is effecting me. Today I was in so much pain emotionally. I did some research on the Psychologist who will be doing the assessments and he had worked with child welfare for 16 years. He has been in the business for 40 years. His year of birth is 1946 - I checked where the planets were that year and his Saturn would conjunct my moon and square my mercury. Yet his pluto trines my Sun but is located very close to my IC from the 3rd house.


I don't have a good feeling about this assessment because he might be a biast doctor. Face it Child welfare has been his gravy train for a while. I don't sense a fair trial.

I did a horary chart about the baby staying with me and I'm not sure how to read it.......

Dec 28/09 2:16 AM Calgary.

Neptune/Jupiter is in the 4th house and Uranus sits in the 5th house. Mars is in the 10 Rx.

My heart and soul just ache something terrible. I go through a lot bringing this child to earth, only to have her kidnapped from me and then treated like a criminal.......guilty until proven innocent. The supervised visits are murder........

I would not wish this experience on anybody........

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posted December 28, 2009 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d9/tsaied/?action=view¤t=Protection.jpg

Visualize yourself and your baby in the centre of this violet tetrahedral, surrounded by a Violet Octahedral and further surrounded by a Golden Ring. Visualize this many many times to boost protection for yourself and your baby. Focus on your pineal gland while visualizing.

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