posted December 28, 2009 04:17 AM         

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It can play out in many ways, but basically she's going to be feeling "partner" energy while you'll be feeling "soulfulness." (Do you serenade her with "Soul Man"?

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LOL! Nope, I have never serenaded her with "Soul Man" What you say here though is very interesting and enlightening. I feel soulful and she feels partner. It would seem then that for me, the affects are spiritual and for her, traditional. Is this a fair assessment? Seems the soulfulness would make it feel to be a bigger deal for me than for her.

Partner energy motivates her to be joined with another, but soulfulness inspires desire a for the ultimate spiritual union. We have also the Eros / Psyche conjunction at 4 degrees, with her as Eros. Would this add any spiritual dimension to her point of view?

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I'd say down to your soul, she feels like an ideal partner to you.

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BINGO! Beyond the shadow of any doubt, that is exactly how I feel.

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About the orbs...I'm not sure how you have something like 2.66?

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I guess that should be 3.07 degrees then.

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She wants to know all about who you really are, to be the one who you share yourself with.

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Do you think maybe that this aspect explains the telepathy between us. I swear to you, many times her comments mirror exactly my private thoughts or the contents of my soul. When it first started happening it freaked me out, but this was actually the thing that got my attention in the beginning. It was my attempt to discover how someone could do something like this that led me to astrology.

posted December 28, 2009 04:03 PM         

I absolutely agree with your orb-categories. As a matter of fact my own system looks very similiar to yours.

There is another reason for me to consider orbs up to 2 degrees as very very strong, and that has to do with transits. I have noticed that transits are exceptionally strong within the 1degree applying and 1 degree separating range, which means that transiting planets will hit synastric aspects within 2 degrees, at least very often, and thus leading to a shared experience.

Example:
Transit Uranus on 25 Pisces
Person A`s Venus on 26 Pisces
Person B`s Sun on 24 Pisces.

posted December 29, 2009 12:36 AM         

You don't have to swear to me. I take your word. I know exactly what you mean about how contact with your Psyche feels, that telepathy.

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If her desire is to know my soul, this aspect seems to have given her some sort of backdoor key into my Psyche so she can find out without asking, or me saying. That's amazing.

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I like the way you put this! It was a light bulb moment for me regarding my own Juno aspects in synastry.

posted December 29, 2009 01:07 AM         

I was anxiously awaiting your return.

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About spiritual (Psyche) v. more mundane partnership (Juno)...I don't think it's like that. She's partnering with you on a spiritual level. Her focus is just as much on the spiritual as is yours. Her speaking your thoughts shows that. She's in tune with you, can't help but be so due to the tight orb.

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That's wonderful! You are helping to make everything much more clear for me now. The telepathy and synchronicity is mind boggling when it is actually experienced. I mean I had heard of them both before and seen them in movies like "Serendipity", but I always had my doubts about it being a real phenomena. I no longer have any question!

Even 3rd parties have witnessed and verified these things. I tell ya, I don't see how anyone could go through something like that and not reevaluate the nature of reality itself; I most certainly have.

Question: someone was explaining to me about the energy increase of a stellium. Are you familiar with this?

If so she has a Leo Stellium _

• Eros (18)

• North Node (20)

• Juno (23)
  

All of these then would collectively impact my psyche, correct? My question: Do the 3 points from her side multiply the intensity for my Psyche? Or does the activation of her Stellium by my Psyche intensify the strength for her. Put another way, it seems logical that she would feel the energy internally, but I would feel it as a response somehow. Like, as if it "HITS" me in some way, so to speak. Does that make any sense to you?

I have Leo Ascendant (3), South Node (13) and Psyche (23), but this is too wide to be a stellium. My Stellium with her is My Sun (27), Pluto (29) and Eros (27) to her Mars (24), Aphrodite (25) and her Saturn (21)

posted December 29, 2009 06:06 AM         

yes, it really is getting ridiculous. Come on, let`s find something to disagree on.

BTW I have been thinking about Psyche. In my little head I have sort of three categories for love-asteroids (we can talk about the titles, they are just working-titles).

Intimacy / Soul - Romance - Sexual / Physical

I am not really happy about the Romance-one, as there are so many different meanings of that word, anyway, as I see it, it is a development from the body (Sexual) over the heart (Romance) deeply into one`s soul (Intimacy / closeness).

posted December 29, 2009 01:48 PM         

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comica23 - I think that the difference between Mars and Eros is that Eros is more refined/sophisticated. It's like both are about physical sex/desire, but while Mars is just fast raw physical desire, Eros is about sensual, more complex physical attraction.

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DD - So I was thinking about Psyche; Eros belongs into the sexual category for me (not exclusively of course; there is definitely a difference between the sexual Mars and the sexual Eros)

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I think the word that we are looking for to describe the difference is "MEANING!" Eros is Passionate Sexual Desire and seeks a (meaningful connection) from the soul of Psyche. Where as Mars is satisfied with "Just Sex" alone from Venus, this would leave Eros unfulfilled. Eros needs an intimate bond in order to merge and transform.

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Where Eros rules in the astrological chart—by sign, house and aspects—marks our beliefs, orientation and experiences of erotic love. This includes creative passions, transformational and sometimes taboo unions and the power of fate to manifest through intense intimacy with another. (It can involve a direct experience of the divine.)

Venus has sex for Sensual Pleasure (Taurus) or
to seal a deal (Libra). Eros has sex for the intimacy and power it brings and for the potential to transform by touching the divine soul of another, at whatever cost.

The same holds true for the creative process. Venus values and appreciates artistic expression for its beauty, refinement and the cultural and sensual articulation it provides; Eros creates because he is driven by the heart to merge, even briefly, with the ineffable.

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posted December 29, 2009 05:42 PM         

Back to the topic lol.. I think that we should also take into consideration that what Eros represents or its power/influence (astrologically speaking) would also depend on what eroticism represents for each of us.

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posted December 29, 2009 06:26 PM         

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• Eros in aspect to Sun and Pluto.

The woman I am interested in has

• her Eros natally in aspect to her Juno.

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With Juno being an asteroid, does this make my Eros have a greater need for deeper meaning with me?

Now lets look at this synastry example.

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• If my Eros, Sun and Pluto Stellium -

Is in aspect to her

• Mars, Saturn, and Aphrodite Stellium,

While her

• Eros, NN and Juno stellium _

Is aspect to my

• Psyche, SN and Ascendant Stellium,

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posted December 29, 2009 07:45 PM         

In her case, since her Eros is conjunct her Juno and NN.. her sense of eroticism and commitment are related to each other, and these helsp her in her growth?

posted December 29, 2009 08:26 PM         

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In her case, since her Eros is conjunct her Juno and NN.. her sense of eroticism and commitment are related to each other, and these help her in her growth?

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Hmmm. So she is turned on erotically by those who can help her grow and she seeks to form a commitment with them. Okay, I can see that.

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So resuming, I'd think that while Eros for you is more linked with deep transformation and sense of self, for her it's linked to her personal growth.

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posted December 30, 2009 02:21 PM         

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(1) matter
(2) emotion
(3) soul

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Matter - Sensation

Spirit - Emotion

Soul - Meaning

posted December 30, 2009 02:28 PM         

I found that quote:
"Your Soul is that part of your Spirit which has human character and which links with the human experience"
http://www.fst.org/trinity.htm

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I have seen the difference always like it is described in that quote, that Spirit is part of the Higher Self, while Soul is linking the Higher Self in us with our humanity and individuality.