posted December 30, 2009 02:38 PM         

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But I guess that is the problem with many words, that are used to describe something spiritual.

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Spiritual doesn't have anything to do with it. This is a problem with words when people use them without being clear on their meaning. Spirit and soul are different and I have clearly defined them in several post already.

posted December 30, 2009 05:05 PM         

"Spirit and soul are different and I have clearly defined them in several post already."
Spirit and soul are different in my understanding, too.

Yet, I find your words here "I have clearly defined them in several post already" a little bit patronizing or arrogant, as those words imply that
1. I didn`t read properly all your threads which I should have done
2. that your definition is the one generally valid for everyone else.

This may so or may not be the case, but this way of phrasing puts me a little bit off (I just want to be very clear about it, as I donīt want any misunderstandings or misinterpretations to happen. Of course, maybe you didn`t mean it that way, but this is how I perceived your words).

"If a thing cannot be verified, do not believe it."
Feelings cannot be verified. Yet they do exist.

posted December 30, 2009 05:34 PM         

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Of course it depends on what you accept as "verification"; even that may be different for people.

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Why would it be different unless people choose to move away from what verification actually is or means? Does anyone value the dictionary anymore? Language is useless if we can't agree on or confirm terms. Everything is just a subjective opinion without verifiable facts and no knowledge can be gained from that. The only thing this does is create a support group for blindness and ignorance, presenting unresolved mysteries as answers to questions when they are not.

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Feelings cannot be verified. Yet they do exist.

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If a thing can't be verified then how can you know if it exists or not? Feelings are verifiable.

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This may so or may not be the case, but this way of phrasing puts me a little bit off.

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Sorry if I offended you, but apparently I do not jive well with the way things are done around here. Many, but not all, seem to allow emotional feelings to override all rational thought, then assume or allege things without good reason. Belief should be underpinned by knowledge, if it is not, it is self-destructive, making one self-deceptive as well as being deceptive to others.

Question: Have you looked at the state of the world that we live in. All around the globe there is nothing, but chaos and confusion. Do you know why? Because people believe in things that are not true. Do you know why? Emotion without Reason. It minimizes the context of what they consider or understand. I am against this, whether it be online or in life.

posted December 31, 2009 03:57 AM         

How would you "verify" a feeling?

Also, you may not realize, but the tone of your post was patronizing yet again.This hinting, that you know exactly what the truth is and what all the misery in the world is based on, doesn`t exactly makes me want to communicate with you.
Not because I don`t like you, but because an exchanging of thoughts is only then fruitful (at least in my opinion), if we believed or admitted the thought that the other one may have valuable thoughts themselves.
To me it sounds as if you are just lecturing me about what the truth is, and I have to swallow it.

Again, I am just observing that, and I am not really deeply moved by it. But I know that many people areound here will react sensitive to this, so I thought I would warn you, that it might happen, that some people actually might feel hurt by this use of language or rather the tone and its implications.

I know that it is not up to me to "lecture" you, as that is what I just said I don`t like in the tone of your post, so it would be stupid to do it myself.
So just take my words as my observations and my perceptions about how you sometimes come across to me. It is not meant as an offense or a lecturing. I just find it sometimes helpful if people are clear about how they receive something that is being said.

posted January 02, 2010 12:47 AM         

Oh no! Please don't anxiously await me. I have a tendency to go days, weeks, even months in between LL visits. Moon-Uranus square, man. It's rough!

I can relate to doubting the veracity of mystical experiences until experiencing them yourself.

The first time I can remember needing to reevaluate what I considered real is when I experienced a "love at first sight" encounter: the myopic vision, the instant awareness of being connected to him, the heat and affection. Before, I'd thought that was just a poetic imagining of what love feels like. It wasn't until it happened that I realized it was a reality.

So then I thought, how can this be real? How can I know in an instant who I belong with?

I've since experienced something else that's helped explain how that could be, but I'm too doped out of my mind on NyQuil to get into it. I don't want to use the energy I have left on that when you have a question already posed.

You asked about stelliums in synastry. A helpful way to think about synastry is that we feel the parts of ourselves that the other person contacts. The other person can only pull out of us what they touch. If they don't touch it, we don't feel that part of ourselves when with them. (Well, we may feel it in the sense that we feel the lack of contact. For example, if you don't aspect my Moon at all, I will feel like my emotional nature isn't "for" you.)

So when someone's stellium contacts your planet in synastry, the stellium person will experience the contact as encompassing a huge chunk of who she is. She feels all the parts of herself symbolized by the astrology - her erotic nature (Eros), her life-direction (NN), and her partnership desires (Juno) - when she's with you. In particular, it's your Psyche energy that triggers all of that in her. She feels your Psyche as connected with all those other parts of her.

So in a certain way these aspects are more powerful for the stellium person, simply because it's more parts of themselves being pulled into the relationship. Not only the planets involved in the stellium, but also the houses that those planets rule. So much of who they are will feel alive when with the other person.

The singular planet person, otoh, will feel that one part of themselves with a concentrated energy. Your Psyche will be on fire.

posted January 02, 2010 01:00 AM         

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What do you think of it?

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Oh, I think you know.

posted January 02, 2010 01:11 AM         

That was an excellent explanation also. So her NN. Eros and Juno are activated by my one Psyche. My Sun, Pluto and eros are activated by her one Mars. Hmmmmm In that case, I guess it is best in synastry to contact as many of the others points as possible.

Maybe the intensity she feels from the stellium is why she would run in the beginning. It would make me a bit uneasy as well, but I just fought to keep it together. It seems like that energy is more noticeable when we are in close proximity to one another, but not engaged in actual verbal communication. As if our spirit or souls are determined to converse whether we choose to or not, as though they will override any conscious choices, determined to have their own way. Hahahaha! This stuff is so funny and amazing.