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Topic: Can facebook ruin a relationship?
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vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 983 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 04:22 AM
quote: I really just want him to acknowledge that he is indeed NOT single. And to take it off and put nothing.
This is a completely reasonable and normal request and not at all aggressive of you. IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 562 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 04:30 AM
GG,Despite my feelings on the matter, if it bothers YOU this much, just bring it up again. Don't let it fester. But if he sticks his chin up and says "I'm not changing it", despite what Vapor says, I'm not sure that's a malevolent action. He could just be being a stubborn brat. Or he could be disrespecting you...go with your instincts. It's all about how YOU feel. Do you feel loved and validated and respected in other areas of your lives? Do his friends know about you? Do you feel like he's hiding you? If you're allowing yourself to entertain thoughts of "why won't he change it?" "what's he hiding?" "who is he flirting with on here?" then you're not trusting. And once I see that a person is not trusting I always ask, then why are you still involved with this person? I've given enough of my .02 on this topic, I'll let others weigh in. LOL @ Ms Candeh and her blocking. I would so do that once I exceeded my frustration threshold haha IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl20 Knowflake Posts: 127 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 04:36 AM
You're right...at the end of the day this isn't really a big deal. And we have only been together for 2 months. Thanks soooo much for all the kind words lol and listening to my rants.I still want to explore that one question I started this post with. What do people think about facebook statues? And why/when did they become so important? If any of you have stories share them...maybe we can make sense of this lol. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 983 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 04:45 AM
SOV - If you believe he cares about you and you trust him - that is the only thing that matters. I shouldn't have replied to this as though I was replying to both of you - since you clearly don't have much of an issue with this. quote: despite what Vapor says, I'm not sure that's a malevolent action. He could just be being a stubborn brat.
True & I take back what I said about your bfs being "shifty" - They may just be stubborn! However, if he was doing it to be a brat, frankly - that would also put me off. Maybe I'm too easily put off. IP: Logged |
amowls* Knowflake Posts: 975 From: richmond va Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 04:46 AM
It's important to me because it's like announcing it. Once you announce it, it's not as easy to take back, you know? It gives it some permanence. It's also easier than having to tell a bunch of different people. And it gets rid of unwanted attention (since my status says nothing I always get old boyfriends hitting on me).I have Venus in my 10th squaring Saturn, so I like officiality. Also think of it this way, it's kind of like walking around with a wedding ring: it specifies that you are taken. You can't go to a bar, hit on someone and add them on Facebook because then they'll immediately know that you're with someone. IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl20 Knowflake Posts: 127 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 04:50 AM
Amowls...I kinda thought he would be the same was well. He's a Venus in Cap guy...so I figured they liked it being official.And yes all his friends/sister know he is with me. And all my friends know we are together. As far as everything else he is a model bf. I guess this is just a small thing that shouldn't bother me...but it does lol. IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 562 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 04:51 AM
I think that people use it as a way to feel validated. It's their way of saying "Hey world! Look at me! I'm in a relationship, I'm special, and important to someone!" That's why it's so hurtful when a partner does NOT want to broadcast in that way...subconsciously (or consciously) it is perceived as an insult.I feel like I can say this because I would secretly LOVE it if he changed his FB status to "In a Relationship" and linked to mine. I am possessive and needy like that. That's just me. I would love to post pictures of us and comment on his page all day and write him love notes and say "Hey bitches! This man is mine, look at our big looooooooooooove" and do a whole bunch of other things that would infuriate him (LOL) but...I don't. For one, I refuse to indulge my inner psycho girl anymore LOL. But also, it's not necessary. I really don't care what people online think. I can honestly say that. I'm happy, he's happy, the people we care about know we are happy, so life is good. I'm not going to ask him to do something that goes against his private nature just to appease my sense of self-worth. I know I'm worthy. It's the same reason women love to show off their engagement rings, and men love to show pictures of or tell stories about their hot girlfriend to their buddies. It's like "Hey look what I have! I'm special! You should envy me" Before FB there was wearing of rings and jackets, tattoos, dressing alike, etc. Anything to show our coupledom, anything to show that an Other has chosen us and we are not alone/despised/pitied. That's my psychological interpretation of why statuses mean so much, including for me  IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 983 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 05:05 AM
SOV - it's very astrologically-dogmatic of me to ask this but - do you think your interpretation is somewhat colored by your Libra Sun lenses?I ask because first of all, I think my own motivations are different to yours - and I think this is interesting considering we are opposite Sun-Signs. Secondly, I'm surprised that you are criticizing YOU. I am not at all the way you are regarding this. However I would never criticize your desire to have pics of your bf there and all that jazz.. If that would make you happy, then by all means.. It doesn't have to be WRONG simply because he doesn't like it.. I understand that you are respecting his privacy. But I do not find your desire for this superficial OR psychotic. IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 562 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 05:14 AM
Vapor  I am a Virgo Queen, LOL. My chart is in my siggy, but I'm a late born Virgo. My Libra stellium begins with my Mercury. And I didn't mean to imply he would have a problem with pictures. He actually has more pictures of "us" on his profile than I do. When I used "posting pics on his page" as an example I was thinking more of in a bombarding, territorial kind of way. I think my personal desires about it are directly related to my Taurus Moon, Scorpio Venus, Libra stellium, 7th house stellium, 8th house stellium...I am a hot mess when it comes to relationships. I want to own my partner, body and soul. My being ok with how things are is a direct result of understanding the unhealthier aspects of my personality, my stepping outside of myself to see the bigger picture that the status thing is a non-issue for our relationship, my agreeing that there are practical reasons for leaving things be, and the resulting compromise to his personality. ------------------ My Chart IP: Logged |
MsCandeh Knowflake Posts: 515 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 05:45 AM
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MsCandeh Knowflake Posts: 515 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 05:52 AM
I agree with it being about validation. I still think GG that you should just send him a relationship link request ... it sounds like he has nothing to hide. He probably just can't be bothered/doesn't go on FB enough/really doesn't care what other people online think. FB CAN ruin a relationship.. the 'other girl' in my case used it as a weapon of mass manipulation to the point we broke up. Aqua moon guy had blocked me (I have a strong feeling that this is her influence) but I didn't block him.. though we weren't "Facebook friends". He kept unblocking me to check my profile/send messages, then block me again so I couldn't contact him. Eff that. I exercised my right to use the block function.
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Coffee Knowflake Posts: 896 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 05:56 AM
I will do my research and see what I can find for myself regards social networking sites.I disagree that Facebook ruins relationships. People ruin relationships. India Times cites Facebook for 1 in 5 divorces. You can't buy publicity like that IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl20 Knowflake Posts: 127 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 06:14 PM
I actually agree it is about validation. I know that at the end of the day people want to be recognized and acknowledged that they matter. With myself I sorta need the validation...but not enough to have us link pages and write all over his wall. He and I talk each day. But there is still this agongizing voice that says if he really was with me...he'd take his status off (read above if you're confused lol). At the end of the day though that could be my own self esteem issues coming out. I wonder do guys have problems like this...or is this only a female related issue for the most part? IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 1416 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 06:28 PM
You've only been in a relationship for two months? That is way too soon to change the status, imo. IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl20 Knowflake Posts: 127 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 07:07 PM
Thanks Diana...I actually said that above. That two months is pretty soon to do anything. And I've said myself that my general rule is dating for 5 months before you acknowledge someone.Rationally I understand that...and know that at the end of the day, its not that big of a deal. BUT the other part of me is wondering if I don't put my foot down about this...what if its 6 months down the line and he still won't take "single" off because i've allowed it to go on as long. My feelings are he can take off single (and not have ANYTHING...like myself) and further down the line we can THINK about linking profiles or saying in a relationship. Plus they say you have to show boundaries and what you will/won't take in the beginning...that way you aren't asking for something further down the road. But I also think that brings up a new point...how soon is too soon to change facebook status? Also I have another question...facebook orginally started when I was a freshmen in college...and has grown. Now that I'm 24, a grad student it has changed. Does what you put on there and the expectation change after college or when you're an actual adult?
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GrlyGirl20 Knowflake Posts: 127 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 07:09 PM
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 364 From: California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 07:26 PM
I may be old fashioned, but I feel that someone is single unless they're engaged or married. I am presently married, but if I were not married, I would keep my status as single, and I wouldn't bother changing my status every few months to reflect starting a new relationship and breaking up, which is something that happens when you're "single". The OP has only been dating for 2 months. What happens if they break up, then he has to go and change status to reflect all the relationship dramas? It's a bit ridiculous to me. And I don't believe facebook can ruin a good/strong relationship, but it sure can ruin an unsteady and unstable one. IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 1416 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 07:27 PM
I totally get what you're saying. I have no status for relationship either. But, you're already trying to control him at two months in...that isn't going to fly with any man, regardless of sign. It won;t fly with a woman either. I would think to myself "he's going to be so jealous and controlling if he's like this now." I think the crux of the issue is why won't he change it? Does he just not want questions right now, when you two are only two months in and maybe you break up in a month? Maybe he's testing you, too. Maybe he had a controlling relationship before. And changing it from "single" to "no status" is the same as being in a relationship, in that people will ask what's going on. Has he introduced you to friends and/or family? If not, you may want to ask him how he defines relationship, but even then, 2 months may be too soon to do that...
ETA: Belage, I feel the same, except I would change it to "in a relationship" if it was at the serious stage -- at least six months, living together, etc. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 364 From: California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 07:31 PM
^^^ What she said. Good luck trying to control an Aqua man....IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 1416 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 07:35 PM
I know...they're slightly worse than the average man, most of which also balk at clingy behavior initially. See, I get both sides, because I am an aqua sun, but VERY plutonic, so I probe and investigate everyone, but then I can detach, so I am not overly possessive. I just need to know the info for research purposes *evil laugh* Everyone is under investigation at all times for any reason until I know what makes them tick. IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl20 Knowflake Posts: 127 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 07:39 PM
Thanks...actually all that was discussed above. We have talked about it...and are indeed exculsive. I have met all his friends, and his sister knows about me. Also I said above that we are different races (and live in the south) so this is MUCH more than just a simple facebook question. Its more is he hiding me because of what his family will think (I'm black and hispanic...he's white). I actually agree about not linking profiles...I'm VERY private and hate to delete everything after you break up. But I also have the idea that if its not really that big of a deal it can just say nothing. Plus you can change your privacy settings so that it doesn't show up that you took off your relatioship status to nothing or something. And yes i think I am being kinda controlling...but I have had situations like this happen before. Where I have dated a guy. And found out later that while his friends knew about me (at school and home) he couldn't show me to his parents etc (which were on facebook). So I'm VERY sensitive to that. I haven't explained this to him. And I don't know if I should. Oh Also Diana...its compounded by the fact that I snooped sooo much so that I KNOW for a fact that in previous relationships he changed his status quickly. And actually had up in a relationship. And his ex gf posted on his wall all the freaking time (which I DO NOT do...at all actually). I think at the end of the day this is really not about facebook...and more about me wondering if I'm an "experience" or "experiment" to him. I've had that happen to me before (more than once)...where a guy (generally white) hides me out...and acts like a bf (I meet his school friends etc)...only to basically be experiencing me then committing to a gf (offically) that is an acceptable race. IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl Knowflake Posts: 562 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 07:40 PM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks her Aqua will balk. They are a real pain (no offense Diana!) LOL. IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 1416 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 07:45 PM
No offense taken!  So, this is definitely deeper than the status of the relationship and more about you wondering if he's not ok with your race -- really ok with it. I can see that. Does he give you reason to think that? Any signs at all? Does he know about what happened with you and the racist guy? If so, how did he react to it? If not, tell him in person and note how he reacts. Maybe (if you feel comfortable) ask him if he thinks people would be weird about it. Now I understand why you're so upset.  ETA: I now see you didn't tell him of your past experience. I think you should. I also would've looked if he changed relationship status quickly in the past. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 364 From: California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 07:49 PM
Take it from someone who has dated interracially. If you even have the slightest suspicion he is ashamed or embarrassed to say you're his girlfriend to his family because of race, (which I doubt since Aqua are bona fide rebels) , then you ought it to yourself to stop acting so sneaky and bring up the subject fair and square. The more you stew inside and run all those negative scenarios inside your head and feed your own paranoia about what has happened to you in the past and what you're afraid might happen to you in the future, the more you are in a weak position emotionally and psychically, the more unattractive energy you project and your partner will pick up on that and will not respect and love you. Think highly enough of yourself to bring up the subject without pussyfooting around. IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 1416 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 27, 2009 07:50 PM
100% agree with what Belage said!PS -- Is the eclipse hitting or opposing any of your cancer/cap placements closely? 10 cancer/10 cap, 25 cap/cancer. IP: Logged |