posted January 19, 2010 02:55 PM         

How do i find out the degree of last SOLAR eclipse. I know it was November 1967 for me.

posted January 19, 2010 03:08 PM         

The PNE ( prenatal eclipse) is the solar eclipse that took place prior to birth. The lunar eclipse that took place prior to birth is linked to the solar but more on an emotional level.
Then there is the initial eclipse that took place in the series of eclipses. The initial eclipse is influenced by the sign ruler and the decan as well as the duad. It will also influence the rest of the eclipses in that series durring your life.
The natal planets that make aspect to the PNE will show karma.
The key planet is the ruler of your prenatal eclipse point and if your PNE is in SAG then jupiter is the ruler of your PNE

an aspect from A's PNE to a point in B's horoscope represents a karmic link. One that implies the two have had a past life contact is exact major aspects including the inconjunct carry the most weight with karmic debts and assets.(1 degree orb)
Squares, inconjuncts and oppositions indicate debts owed by the person whose PNE aspects the other person's chart.

Trines and sextiles do not indicate karmic debt they indicate a prior relationship in which debts have been cleared.

A conjunction is interpreted acording to the nature of the planet involved. It indicated the need to unify.

The closer the aspect the stronger the karmic tie.You can allow an orb up to 5 degree but the closer the greater impact on each other's life.
Wider aspects show an association but more of a casual one.(2-3 degree orb )
Exact aspects link the charts of married couples, lovers, children ect...
It may refer to a past life association or one in the present or both.

Scorpio - scorpio's gift of probing insight allows one to dicern the root causes of karmic situations and problems. It is up to the individual to use that knowledge to gain karmic progress or not. The desire of retribution against wrongs may override the capacity for forgivness. A negitive response will compound karmic debts, that will take several incarnations to erase. A positive response leads to a high level of spiritual evolution which prepares one for spiritual growth. Those people who one is drawn to sexually may share karmic ties with you. Group activities for these folks include afterlife, reincarnation and human sexuality.

posted January 19, 2010 04:54 PM         

So i need to look at everything aspecting 8' aries then to find my karma?

posted January 19, 2010 05:12 PM         

Where as DD and I share the same PNE.

posted January 19, 2010 05:34 PM         

your PNE is opposing my Pluto on 9 Libra (Isn`t your angel nearby?).
So I think in our case it is not just as casual.

Vesta,

I haven`t really looked into the Draco connection to Jude, no. At least not pertaining to the ecclipses.
Having said that my own Draco Moon is on 6°57 Gemini,c onjunct our lunar ecclipse. I thought that was interesting, as the Dracos have lunar symbolism, the Moon of course, and the lunar ecclipse. It cannot get more lunar than that I guess.

posted January 19, 2010 09:31 PM         

My SE cj his chiron (1), inconjunct his part of marriage/love (0)

My LE cj his cupid (1), inconjunct his MOON (1) NN (0) LUST (0)

MY IE cj his NN (1)

His SE inconjunct my sun/moon MP, conjunct my Draco saturn (1) inconjunct my dr PSYCHE (1) ceres (0)

His LE inconjunct my cupid (0)

posted January 20, 2010 09:12 AM         

oddly my pluto is at 8 libra as well.

posted January 20, 2010 10:29 AM         

it is not that odd. We must have been born pretty close to each other, that is also why we share the same PNE.

posted January 20, 2010 10:33 AM         

according to this author the quinkunx is the most karmic aspect, if I remember it right. What do you say about that? Does it sit right with you, and with you, Vesta, too?

I could understand that; if you relate the quinkunx and semisextile back to the natural housezodiac, the quinkunx would fall into the 6th and 8th house, the semisextile into the 2nd and 12th house. The 12th and 8th houses are waterhouses and therefore representing matters of the soul, so at least the quinkunx that would fall into the natural 8th house and also the semisextile that owuld fall into the 12th house could be of karmic nature.

posted January 20, 2010 10:34 AM         

according to this author the quinkunx is the most karmic aspect, if I remember it right. What do you say about that? Does it sit right with you, and with you, Vesta, too?

I could understand that; if you relate the quinkunx and semisextile back to the natural housezodiac, the quinkunx would fall into the 6th and 8th house, the semisextile into the 2nd and 12th house. The 12th and 8th houses are waterhouses and therefore representing matters of the soul, so at least the quinkunx that would fall into the natural 8th house and also the semisextile that owuld fall into the 12th house could be of karmic nature.

posted January 20, 2010 12:18 PM         

The most interesting part is that NONE of my eclipses actually hit either Peter (nyc guy) nor my ex husband's planets or anything!
Yet moon/NN and cupid hit this guy that i'm now being tested with.