posted January 30, 2010 04:55 PM         

I just want to clarify something

I didn't mean the person with Venus square Uranus with less than 1 degree orb would mean that she wouldn't want security,stability,and longevity. I was just saying that I want security,stability,and longevity. I was saying what I want in a relationship period. I am not talking about what the Venus square Uranus doesn't want.

The reason why I said that is because I don't want a relationship that is very unstable,unpredictable,changeable to the point of being stressful that I worry about the relationship ending unexpectedly whether she wants to or not. That can happen for various reasons in connected to Uranus stuff. It could simply be "I want a fresh start" or "I love you,but I am not in love with you now","I have outgrown you", "I feel that we are on different paths now,and so we should separate"......so many possibilities. The keyword for Uranus is change. There is possibility of change of partners with somebody that has that hard Venus-Uranus aspect. It's the planet of novelty. I even believe that it's possible that people with DRD4 7R gene (the novelty seeking gene,connected to half of ADHD cases,and played a part in epic migrations)could actually be reflected by strong Uranus influences. The narrower the orb, the more likely. I don't use more than a 5 degree orb. If it's within 3 degree orb,I believe it to be a strong theme. If its within 1 degree orb,its a very dominant theme in the chart.

Venus square geocentric, heliocentric Uranus Nodes is very similar too.

of course, strong Saturn aspects can modify that.

I also wonder if Juno square Uranus is similar to Venus square Uranus.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted January 30, 2010 05:20 PM         

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Do you find that desire for security clashes with independence? It could be like...needing lots of space, feeling smothered if there is a lot of possessiveness from others. novelty-seeking which can be a good thing. They say that detachment and enlightenment are strongly connected. In Vedic Astrology, Ketu (South Lunar Node) is the significator for both.

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I like to spend every waking moment with the person I'm dating. I like making future plans, and because I realize that "love is transient" I also realize that I might love them later too, so I don't dump people. Uranus for me speeds up love relationship processes. Like, once a relationship is over, I'm immediately on to the next one, even if I'm still hurting. I also never know if I truly love someone or not.

You're right, I also have Venus square Saturn (within 28 minutes), so that does modify expression.

posted January 30, 2010 05:52 PM         

depends on the situation,reason why. If a person is getting abused, of course...he,she want out of a relationship. That's different from the independent,novelty seekers that might get bored too easily,and have a hard time settling down,get suddenly attracted to other people,suddenly lose interest,and/or want to get out of the relationship just out of the blue.

also .......there are other Uranus aspects besides Venus square Uranus that could indicate a strong desire for independence that can interfere with settling down for a long time. I even mentioned Venus square heliocentric,geocentric Uranus nodes. I also mentioned Juno square Uranus. My aunt Dominga has Uranus square Moon-Ascendant, and she is that type. I am not sure about the mutable signs,Gemini,Sagittarius because it's relative......in Sidereal, the signs could be different.

"You're right, I also have Venus square Saturn (within 28 minutes), so that does modify expression."

Yeah.....that would be a strong modifier

I think in your case.....the Venus square Saturn-Uranus seems to be taking love,relationships seriously(Venus square Saturn), but when they end, you can quickly get involved with another person (Venus square Uranus)

I also wonder what else is in your chart like Neptune,Pluto as well as your anima planets (Sun,Mars) and how they are aspected.

I don't agree with the cookbook interps

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted January 30, 2010 06:05 PM         

I agree with you.

Raymond

it is 7órb.venus in my 11thleo and uranus sag in 3rd.

my saturn is aspected nicely,with only an oposition with Juno so i guess the reason why im not very ura/venus it is cause the orb is not very tight.

posted January 30, 2010 06:13 PM         

it is 7órb.venus in my 11thleo and uranus sag in 3rd.

my saturn is aspected nicely,with only an oposition with Juno so i guess the reason why im not very ura/venus it is cause the orb is not very tight."

Yeah.....I don't use no more than 5 degree orb like Robert Hand recommends for all major aspects except for sextile in his book,HOROSCOPE SYMBOLS. Therefore,I wouldn't view your Venus and Uranus to be in aspect.

I wonder if it's within orb in Right Ascension (equatorial longitude).

It might also be involved in a midpoint picture.

other possibilies, other Uranus aspects.....as well aspects to geocentric,heliocentric nodes

for example

I have Mars square Neptune with a little under 6 degree orb.
in Right Ascension, it is just over 1 degree orb.

I believe Astrologers get away with wide orbs because of Right Ascension aspects that they don't know about.

Juno oppose Saturn could be about taking relationships seriously, but there can be possibilities of restrictions,limitations,delays in the relationship.

posted January 30, 2010 06:37 PM         

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Yeah.....I don't use no more than 5 degree orb like Robert Hand recommends for all major aspects except for sextile in his book,HOROSCOPE SYMBOLS.

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posted January 30, 2010 06:39 PM         

the reason why he used the orbs
was he also used minor aspects and midpoint pictures.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted January 30, 2010 06:46 PM         

sorry for my ignorance but..how can i view the horoscope in right ascension?

talks about delays alright--- im in a long-distance but planning not to be,in the near future.

i forgot to mention one aspect i have:sun square Neptune in 1or,sun in 11th and uranus in 3rd.that would also make me a free-soul,i guess.

posted January 30, 2010 07:15 PM         

Last question, I promise, does he consider quincunx a major aspect or a minor aspect similar to sextile?

posted January 30, 2010 11:57 PM         

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"it takes two to tango." " It takes two to make a quarrel" Wooow because that I can do and say exact what I want.

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That isn't what I said at all - I don't agree with cheating. What gets me, is the way people always tend to blame the woman they cheat with - apparently, the man has no responsibility whatsoever.

I remember one woman on a message board about five or six years ago, posting when she'd found out that her husband was having an affair. She ended up holding on to the husband, because she loved him so much, and the next thing you know, they have a baby (their first). She also became obsessed with the other woman - the woman who had somehow induced the hubby to cheat against his will - and she wanted to hurt her. To ruin her.

posted January 31, 2010 12:06 AM         

You can get your Right Ascension coordinates by

going to this site: http://www.true-node.com/pos/

then check the box that says RA which stands for Right Ascension

then push the submit button and it should show Right Ascension

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted January 31, 2010 12:19 AM         

You're welcome

"Last question, I promise, does he consider quincunx a major aspect or a minor aspect similar to sextile?"

please feel free to ask any more questions.

He seems to consider quincunx a minor aspect. He gives it a 1 1/2 degree orb which is the same orb that he gives the semisextile,semisquare,sesquiquadrate,quintile,and biquintile

He gives an orb of 1/2 degree for 22.5 degree multiples not covered above.
all others - degree or less

I guess the quincunx,semisextile,semisquare,sesquiquadrate,quintile,and biquintile are like the greater minor aspects

Raymond

"I am going to have to buy that book, uh? lol."

It's a good book. I like it. It's a book that I recommend for people that want to learn Astrology. I feel that it's a good book for any astrologer's collection no matter what level he/she is.

I like the listing of planetary pairs that he gives as guidelines for aspects but also midpoint pictures.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted January 31, 2010 03:29 AM         

I was talking about my own view of Angelina, sorry if you don't like them but that is what they are. You of course have the very same right to your own opinion.

It is also interesting to note that Angelina went to the set of Friends before it all happened. What was she doing there? Scoping out her rival that's what.

Angelina is a skank in my opinion, which won't change no matter what anyone says to the contrary.

posted January 31, 2010 07:32 AM         

Spanky

posted January 31, 2010 02:01 PM         

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I also wonder what else is in your chart like Neptune,Pluto as well as your anima planets (Sun,Mars) and how they are aspected.

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Neptune and Pluto are not very strong in my chart, except Pluto is parallel my Venus.

Speaking of parallels, Uranus and Mars are parallel and out of bounds. My Mars sextiles my Sun by 1 degree. I should also mention my Mars is conjunct my Sun/Moon midpoint. And my Sun is at my Neptune/Venus midpoint as well.

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What gets me, is the way people always tend to blame the woman they cheat with - apparently, the man has no responsibility whatsoever.

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posted January 31, 2010 06:59 PM         

You're perfectly entitled to your opinion. I just hope that you're consistent when it comes to the skankiness and include on the list

-Laura Dern (for getting with a married man after making her self-pitying comment about coming back and finding out her boyfriend had married Jolie)
-Elizabeth Taylor ( for stealing Debbie Reynold's hubby, Eddie Fisher)
-Antonio Banderas and melanie griffith (who were both married to other people when they got together)
-Ingrid Bergman for getting with married man Roberto Rosselini
-Ava Gardner (for being involved with Frank Sinatra who left his wife to marry her)
-Marilyn Monroe ( who slept with the two very married Kennedy brothers)
-Britney Spears (who got involved with K-Fed when he had a pregnant girlfriend)
-J-Lo (who got involved with Puffy Sean comb when he also had a pregnant girlfriend)
-And a host of other celebrities who did not exactly live by the "thou shall not date other people's SO" mantra.

But, of course, you don't have to be consistent at all. You can be as inconsistent as you wish,lol. You don't owe me or anybody anything...

posted January 31, 2010 07:26 PM         

I am not saying it's ok to be with someone who is attached. It's not, but it's not just the woman's fault at all.

I think women blame Ang more than other women because she is very sexy, without really trying to be, she is edgy. The only other woman on that list that was also sexy like that is Ava Gardner, who is another of my favorites for not being a fake feminine person and just being herself.

posted January 31, 2010 07:46 PM         

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Most men are constantly on the prowl for sex, married or single, usually moreso when committed because they get bored. They, the men, are the one's who usually go after the woman. But woman LOVE to blame other women, because they can't admit to themselves they made an error in judgement and picked a scum for a mate....must be the woman's fault, "that W_ore..."

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This is also problematic since it is assumed that men are always prowling for sex, when that isn't true either. And you're blaming the woman who married him instead of blaming the actual dude himself.

posted January 31, 2010 08:00 PM         

I realize this isn't real coherent, so maybe I should come back later when I can explain myself better.

posted January 31, 2010 08:15 PM         

My ex's excuses for cheating on me ranged from, I was too busy with the babies.
I gained weight when I was on steroids for nine months.
I didn't like the same things he liked, and the girls that liked country music, and fishing, and monster trucks, were somehow more interesting (?) He knew what I liked and disliked when we met.

Those are just a few, but people come up with a plethora or excuses for cheating when they do it. Especially, if they have NO REAL reason, then, they grab at straws.