posted February 02, 2010 09:27 AM         

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Brad Pitt, even though he's Brad Pitt is still like any other man.
He likes to do a good days work. Come home. A bit of time to himself. Some t.v. Maybe some sex. Sleep.
And there's Angelina with all her complications and insecurities and her desperate need to have a ridiculous amount of children.
It's not about the children. How could she possibly give all of those offspring the quality time they need?

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Lol and you think Angelina is just sitting at home all day waiting for Brad?? She works too. She likes to come home, relax and sleep just like any other HUMAN.

And as for their amount of children: Brad himself has said numerous times (even when he was married to Jen) that he wanted to have at least 6 kids. People speculated that's why he left her (Jen didn't want any children at that point in her career).

posted February 02, 2010 03:05 PM         

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It wasn't just you B.
The general tone was from a few people. I have a right to express myself without being told how & in what format I should do it, period.

It seems that I didn't respond how other thought I ought too, I don't like that. If you don't agree say so & say why if that pleases you.

So as one free person to another can I remind us & other who hinted quite blatantly, that we aren't living in communist China.

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No one said you weren't entitled to your opinion, nor did anyone censor you. What happened, was other people had a different opinion than you did, and they expressed it. Period. It seems you are the one living in communist China, because you are saying that your opinion can't be challenged without it making you feel like you can't speak your mind. I don't think anyone here said you weren't entitled to your opinion -- some of us just disagreed with it and said so -- that is free speech, not communism.

posted February 02, 2010 03:15 PM         

Why does noone talk about Stuart`s and Charlize`s separation?

posted February 02, 2010 08:16 PM         

Oh this just occured to me today I thought it was funny since I read this thread! My opinion is that Angelina is not a ***** or a homewrecker...some people really do fall in love while they are with other people, it happens, though its very rare to have a Paul Newman/Joanne Widward type of love!

posted February 02, 2010 10:28 PM         

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I was replying in response to people who were calling angelina a "skank"

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These are your words & I was the only one who called her a skanky ho.

This was a passive aggressive backhanded smack on the nose by you to me. You should at least have the balls to stick by your comments. I am.

posted February 03, 2010 01:27 AM         

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disagree Diana

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These are your words & I was the only one who called her a skanky ho.

This was a passive aggressive backhanded smack on the nose by you to me. You should at least have the balls to stick by your comments. I am.

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There was absolutely nothing passive aggressive about it. I disagreed and I said so. I am sticking by my comments, where have I changed them?

You don't like it that I disagreed with your statement and said so, then you said you felt like it was communist China. You also got really pitiful-like in attitude, and said you couldn't express your feelings. It seems to me that you were the one being passive aggressive, and acting like a communist, by trying to make everyone feel they couldn't say anything against what you said. Passive aggressive -- in not saying who you meant and by acting like a different point of view was an act to silence you. Like a communist -- no one can have a different opinion than you and not be censoring you in your opinion.

If you call someone, especially a celebrity, a nasty name you should know that someone will have a different opinion than you. I've done it and people have come at me for it too. I never said I felt like it was communist China though, and that I was meant to feel I couldn't express my opinion. I just took it for what it was -- a difference of opinion and continued to state my opinion. If you'd rather play the victim, your choice. Have fun at your pity party.

Oh, and for the record, I didn't mean to single you out, but your phrase stuck in my head. I didn't recall who said it and didn't want to accuse the wrong person, nor did I want to go back and reread because I can be lazy like that. I actually was seconding and elaborating with someone else who had posted before me, and said that in the post...don't recall who that was either, but it was right before me. I said that in my initial post as well. I really have no idea why I even have to justify my opinion to you at all. We just have different opinions on the matter. You are being very sensitive about this, in a personal way, that has nothing (that I can see) to do with your opinion.

posted February 03, 2010 02:12 AM         

You didn't like my comment about being told what to say, & how to respond appropriately. Perhaps you should re-read your own posts with a more detached mind & you will see what I am talking about. I took no offense at your comments about Angelina Jolie or Brad, I only stated my own personal feelings about the woman which upset you it seems. I was also referred to in that post of yours as letting Brad of the hook & blaming Angie for everything which is your mistake. You assume that I don't place any blame on him because I didn't mention him.

posted February 03, 2010 02:34 AM         

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No one said you weren't entitled to your opinion, nor did anyone censor you. What happened, was other people had a different opinion than you did, and they expressed it. Period.

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And you said this previously

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I am not saying the mistress is right.In fact, I say several times I don't think she is, but nobody seems to notice that. I was replying in response to people who were calling angelina a "skank" but not saying one derogatory word about the man that broke his vows -- Brad Pitt. Once again, everyone just focuses in on the other woman and misses the point of the whole reason for my postings, which was to call out people using derogatory names for a woman, while ignoring the man. Only one other person took issue with this and my response was to agree with her and expand on what I thought about women bashing the other woman, while saying nothing about the man, thus relinquishing him, in a way, of his misdeed.

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This in simple terms says that you didn't approve of my comment & in fact I did not answer it correctly as you saw it. The 'people' you were referring to is me. It was me that you were talking about indirectly, which is passive aggressive,, period!

You also ignored my comment about Brad....

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I'm not say he isn''t to blame as well, for me it goes without saying, but obviously it needs to be said

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Did you miss it?

I also said....

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Her humanitarian endeavors may be wonderful & more power to her for it.

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As far as I understood the thread it was about the rumors of break up etc, not her humanitarian work. If it had been the tone of my posts would have reflected my thoughts on that instead. So what I'm saying is why can't you say "I think angie is..... regardless of what anyone else thinks" & leave it at that? I'm going to assume to answer for you here & say that you appear to find it more fun to passively berate me for my opinion.

posted February 03, 2010 02:38 AM         

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You also got really pitiful-like in attitude, and said you couldn't express your feelings.

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You may call it that but I like to think of it as standing up for myself when others try to push me around.

I generally prefer peacefulness Diana but not this time. I will ague my point. Whether you acknowledge it or not is no matter.

posted February 03, 2010 02:53 AM         

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And you said this previously

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I am not saying the mistress is right.In fact, I say several times I don't think she is, but nobody seems to notice that. I was replying in response to people who were calling angelina a "skank" but not saying one derogatory word about the man that broke his vows -- Brad Pitt. Once again, everyone just focuses in on the other woman and misses the point of the whole reason for my postings, which was to call out people using derogatory names for a woman, while ignoring the man. Only one other person took issue with this and my response was to agree with her and expand on what I thought about women bashing the other woman, while saying nothing about the man, thus relinquishing him, in a way, of his misdeed.
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This in simple terms says that you didn't approve of my comment & in fact I did not answer it correctly as you saw it. The 'people' you were referring to is me. It was me that you were talking about indirectly, which is passive aggressive,, period!

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I actually was NOT referring solely to you, but to you AND others who responded after my post that I felt didn't understand my point that I was trying to make. You were not the only person to respond. I said "others" - plural. I said "people" because I meant "people" (plural). For some reason you think I was only talking about you, but I wasn't. I do not know why you think this, because I would have had zero problem naming you specifically. I would have no problem saying now that it was solely you I was talking about, but it wasn't.

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Her humanitarian endeavors may be wonderful & more power to her for it.
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As far as I understood the thread it was about the rumors of break up etc, not her humanitarian work. If it had been the tone of my posts would have reflected my thoughts on that instead. So what I'm saying is why can't you say "I think angie is..... regardless of what anyone else thinks" & leave it at that? I'm going to assume to answer for you here & say that you appear to find it more fun to passively berate me for my opinion.

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I never once made any reference to her humanitarian causes, etc. That was someone else.

Again, I wasn't "berating" YOU. I was "berating" EVERYONE who blamed her for the affair. I'm sorry and confused you saw it as me going after you, but like I said, I have no problem personally naming someone I am taking issue with...

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Or am I getting it wrong? Did I not read your responses correctly? Or is your ego so out of control that you must continue to 'put me in my place' for not agreeing with your thoughts?

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You are getting it wrong. I was addressing everyone (not just you) who bad mouthed Angie on the affair but said little about Brad. I am not trying to "put you in your place," but expressing my opinion. It seems your ego is the one out of control, since you take "others" to mean you and you alone, even after I say it wasn't just you. and that I have no problem naming names of people I am taking issue with. If you don't believe me, ask Lara...

PS -- I actually sort of enjoy being challenged to a debate.

PPS-- This has pluto transit written all over it. You said you were a libra -- is pluto squaring your sun yet? It would make sense if it was. If it is, you'll be having confrontations like this a lot.

posted February 03, 2010 02:04 PM         

as for not trusting them: we don't have to deal with them on a day to day basis .. they're not part of our lives .. so how does it matter? If the good they do helps someone & the end result is people who need help get it .. seems like a good action with good results .. better than sitting around discussing other people's choices & judging them ..

.. anyway .. I think we should probably just stick to the astrological study, only examine their aspects, transits and see if (astrologically) it was possible to see their split coming .. was it?? I think that would be the most interesting thing here .. if someone cud've predicted this accurately & how ..

for those of us who don't know astrology yet .. should we choose to study this case in particular .. it may bring greater understanding into how transits play out.

posted February 03, 2010 02:55 PM         

exactly.how can we judge someone we dont know?and again....even if we knew them..we wouldnt have the right to judge them still.

astrologially speaking i guess the charts i posted talk volumes about ehir relationship.they were meant to meet and be a couple.

About breaking ups...well usually it is said that when a break up occurs uranus has to do with it,specially when transiting the 7th.

posted February 03, 2010 03:00 PM         

but that doenst work for everybody i guess cause in my relationship Tr Uranus passed our 7thcomposite and there was no breakup "

Robert Hand made a point...if the relationship is strong and healthy,it will survive challenging transits. If it's weak and unhealthy, the relationship is likely to end which can actually be a blessing.

Challenging aspects can be a hidden blessing in disguise by giving us what we need and not what we want, and those 2 aren't the same.

of course, free will is the ultimate factor.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"