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Topic: Brad & Angelina split
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Belage
Knowflake Posts: 336
From: California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 31, 2010 08:41 PM
 
^^^ Not even of Britney Spears and J-Lo? I thought everyone knew about them...Britney's ex, K-Fed was dating Shar Jackson who was pregnant with their second child when Britney and him started dating. P Diddy's girlfriend was Kim Porter, who was pregnant with their first child, when he and J-Lo got together.
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Astra
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posted January 31, 2010 08:58 PM
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Nobody should entirely blame the other woman who cheats with your man, BUT, she should have some accountability IF, and only IF, she knew he was married.
I totally agree, Gypsee. Someone who dates or has sex with a person that they KNOW is married, is clearly doing something wrong. In the example of a woman dating a married man, putting partial blame on the woman does not exonerate the married man; it is merely acknowledging that the woman is not some poor, innocent damsel in distress who was too weak to refuse the advances of the married man. However, I do agree that the man carries the majority of the blame since he is the one who made a commitment to his wife. The cheater and the person the cheater has an affair with are both at fault. Both made poor decisions without considering the consequences. IP: Logged |
AquariusMoon
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From: Uranus
Registered: Oct 2009
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posted January 31, 2010 09:27 PM
I once made a woman who said it was her fault that her partner cheated on her. I never met such a sad person, I felt sorry for her. I odn't know what is wrong with these types of women. IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted January 31, 2010 09:37 PM
well "dr laura" would blame the woman who was cheated on 9 times out of ten! she says if you treat your man right he won't be going out for burgers when there's steak at home ( paul newman said that once!)...she DOES admit that some men are just c**ts; but again she blames the woman for not being level-headed enough to read the red flags before having babies or moving in with him. that's dr laura, not me!! BUT brad was married...i don't believe in messing with that, bad karma usually follows. and anyone who says it was just TOO fated or whatever is not giving people credit for using their power of CHOICE. IP: Logged |
Spanky Butler
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 12:09 AM
Belage Just the mention of those two names in particular with send me into a narcoleptic nap. What I seems to be really poor at is showing you that the only person I gave a crap to comment about is Angelina, I thought it only right seeing as the thread is about her.
You do have a good list of people that could be combined into an evil adulterer's astro thread if you care to start one & I'll comment about them there.
I'm just trying to keep it on topic & seeing as we've slipped from that somewhat let me fiz that by saying......
I'm a Libra Sun, Sag Moon & Pisces AC & I like puppies & taking long walks on the beach & I still think Angelina Jolie is a skanky ho!  IP: Logged |
Diana
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posted February 01, 2010 12:14 AM
I am not saying the mistress is right.In fact, I say several times I don't think she is, but nobody seems to notice that. I was replying in response to people who were calling angelina a "skank" but not saying one derogatory word about the man that broke his vows -- Brad Pitt. Once again, everyone just focuses in on the other woman and misses the point of the whole reason for my postings, which was to call out people using derogatory names for a woman, while ignoring the man. Only one other person took issue with this and my response was to agree with her and expand on what I thought about women bashing the other woman, while saying nothing about the man, thus relinquishing him, in a way, of his misdeed.
Do you know that if this forum was a bunch of men discussing a cheating woman that virtually ALL of them would blame the cheater -- and let the single person (man) off the hook, because he didn't betray anyone or break any vows? Sometimes I really think men are smarter and more evolved than women, who only look at things from a competitive, narrowminded, and jealous perspective. And at least men stick together. Women beat each other up every chance they can, no wonder women have a harder time with relationships and are usually the one's to sacrifice their entire lives for men -- they don't know what it's like to be supported in general by their own sex.
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Spanky Butler
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From: Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 02:14 AM
I'm not say he isn''t to blame as well, for me it goes without saying, but obviously it needs to be said.I just have a bug up my butt about her, I really despise her. I just can't shake the feeling that she is truly conniving. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted February 01, 2010 02:41 AM
Diana - I agree that both people are accountable, so I don't like placing blame on one person only..But I can't see a discrepancy between men and women - blaming the other party more or less. I've heard and read several stories where the man became physically violent towards the other man or attempted murder in revenge. Men are pretty overtly competitive. Women are usually less physical about it. But it also depends a lot on social & financial status, level of education and other factors. IP: Logged |
teasel
Knowflake Posts: 499
From: Ohio
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 05:58 AM
*deleted my post (but the thumbs-up above is for Diana).
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DiandraReborn25
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From: Portugal
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 07:07 AM
what im seing is that women are judging Angie,cause of their own personal experiences....who here can say that they know who the person Angie is?no one....and do you know who Brad Is? do you know if in time of marriage with Jen,if he was happy?cause if he got together with Angie,surely that something was going on...no man leaves a woman for other,if he is HAPPY and FULLFILLED in the relationship. WE GOTTA see how things really are. im not excusing a behaviour,im just saying that Angie is not that bad person,i think that when people say hate her,seems more like they are mirroying in Angie something that happened in their own lives. and that is not right...in my personal view of course. To me,Angie could have choosed to be the sexy woman,the actress who lives in the imagination of all men....but she CHOOSED instead to use that IMAGE and POWER to help the ones in need,specially the children. So..who can hate such a Humanitarian Soul?Who can hate someone who gives 1 Million to Haiti people,when people like Madoona gives only 170 000? Angie and Brad will always be a focus of judgement and envy and many other things...only because people tend to judge the ones who seem happy. It is an Ego thing i guess....when we´re not happy,we tend to pick the couples who are happy,and try to arrange esxcuses to make them appear false or unhappy. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
Moderator Posts: 3577
From: peace.angel@live.com.au
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 07:39 AM
How many people here actually know any of them - Angelina, Brad or Jennifer - personally? And how much of this information is coming from reliable sources, like, oh, I don't know..... tabloids? Sorry, but people are flaunting some of this like first hand information when it's just speculation. None of us (unless you really do know them and have it directly from them) know what really went down, and in what order. And, as a mod, just an Aries Merc type subtle reminder that differences of opinions are just that. They don't make truth, they're just personal opinions. And, this is the astro forum, so more astro talk. Thanks. IP: Logged |
teasel
Knowflake Posts: 499
From: Ohio
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 08:03 AM
I just came back to edit out my last post, because I realized that I had no personal stake in this, and wondered why I was letting it get to me so much. This Aries hates cheating - even with the several strong Uranus aspects in my chart (+ Venus in Gemini, which gets blamed for this type of thing on astrology boards, even though a lot of us are faithful) - but I also don't like seeing blame thrown at only one member of a cheating party (usually the person that's cheated with). IP: Logged |
DD
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posted February 01, 2010 08:19 AM
PA,  Exactly my thoughts. IP: Logged |
Spanky Butler
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 08:19 AM
I'm sorry everyone. I made the mistake of thinking this was a public forum where everyone was allowed to speak their mind regardless of popular opinion. Won't happen again.
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Alia
Knowflake Posts: 338
From: az
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 09:50 AM
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The only innocent party in a cheating relationship is the person who was cheated ON
So am i a cheater when my ex left me for someone else then he comes back to me while he s still living with that someone else? this way we re both cheated on,by the same guy.. me before with her, and she now with me. who does the needle of the moral alignes with, now? I mean, i was there before her.
now he wants me -somehow- and im saying no to him, A) bcs of what he did and B) bcs he s still with her. It s costing me though cos i still want him and love him. But if it happens that i give in, I wouldnt feel like a cheater cos he was with me before her.
and like Diandra said, if the man is not happy or fulfilled he wont remain with that woman. Souls have contracts and karma with many other souls... we cant stop that.
And when it is solved and karmic debt is paid we can only hope one day they realize who s really 'the one' and stop causing all this pain walking allover other ppl s feelings and messing other s lives up.
that goes both ways either for men and women, rich and poor, celebrities and non celebrities ,by the way. ..just my 2Cs. IP: Logged |
Máni
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Registered: Jul 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 12:35 PM
Well it seems they're not really splitting up. Not yet anyway. I hope they don't even though it is inevitable that they too will break up eventually. It's just the way these people's lives are. So many temptations, so many distractions. It's impossible to stay devoted to one person when there's always so much potential for romance and passion elsewhere. I mean family life is great, but it gets dull. Sooner or later you meet someone new and you go for it. I don't know why they even bother to commit to anyone at all in the first place. They know how it'll end don't they? Anyway, I just wanted to say, I don't get why Angelina gets such a bad rap about this so long after she and Brad have been together. They fell in love with each other and HE left his wife for her. So what? What did she do wrong? Was she supposed to say, no darling stay with your wife? Please. If it wasn't Angelina, it would been somebody else. And for Aniston to be looked at like a saint because she was the one left behind after sooo long! I mean come on! If it wasn't for her relationship, then break up with Pitt she wouldn't even have a career right now. She's not that great of an actress, so really she should send Pitt and Jolie a thank you for keeping her popular for so long. I knowww. I'm a b*tch . IP: Logged |
ghanima81
Moderator Posts: 163
From: Maine
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 12:46 PM
Off topic, but in response to Mani, saying that because of the way they live their lives, celebs will cheat... Look at Patrick Swayze, (RIP) Hugh Jackman, Kurt Russell, Tim Robinson, etc.. they've been able to keep it in their pants. It's about love and self control. IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted February 01, 2010 01:13 PM
"Well it seems they're not really splitting up. Not yet anyway"this to me is the relevant point. this whole discussion involving who's evil and who's innocent etc, is based on a frigging tabloid shouting "facts" with no BASIS IN FACT. IP: Logged |
Máni
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posted February 01, 2010 01:17 PM
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Look at Patrick Swayze, (RIP) Hugh Jackman, Kurt Russell, Tim Robinson, etc.. they've been able to keep it in their pants. It's about love and self control.
Yeah well as far as we know they didn't.  I really don't think it's possible for anyone to resist that much temptation. I just don't. I wish I weren't that cynical, but I don't believe in love forever. It lasts for sometime and then it's gone. And maybe the average Joe settles with being with someone they're not in love with anymore, but not Brad Pitt. He doesn't have to. IP: Logged |
Alia
Knowflake Posts: 338
From: az
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 01:39 PM
Lmao @brad pitt doesnt have to, Màni..yeah seems like monogamy is not for the majority of humans anyway. unless you met your twinsoul or some incredible degree of connection IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25
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From: Portugal
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 01:42 PM
well i believe in love forever,but well im a girl...however there are many men who think the same way..i found some men to be even more romantic than women actually. we cant generalize and say that humans werent made to be monogamous...if we find someone who is in the same soul path or evolution than ours,it is probable that,with love and acceptance,with forgiveness and care,the love lasts forever. the thing is the most part doenst want to have to "work" to nurish the love everyday..so they give it up... IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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From: Sacramento,California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 02:12 PM
I think that we are just animals ......primates. I believe that we aren't naturally designed to be monogamous just like animals aren't designed to be monogamous. My shaman friend,Steve told me that we aren't designed to be monogamous either and that monogamy started with the patriarchal societies. I think Jeffrey Wolf Green said something that according to natural law, humans aren't made to be monogamous which was connected to patriarchal societies. He said something about it being normal to be polyamorous in matriarchal socieities. a lot of people get the notion that homosexuality is some type of perversion or totally unnatural, but it seems to be very common among animals. It seems that both heterosexuality and homosexuality. Bisexuality too. It just seems that majority people think heterosexual sex is natural because it's the only type of sex that involves procreation, and they believe that homosexual sex isn't natural because it doesn't involve procreation.
Raymond
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Belage
Knowflake Posts: 336
From: California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 09:53 PM
Aww, Spanky, it's not that serious. I am sorry if I made you feel that you could not speak your mind. IP: Logged |
Spanky Butler
Knowflake Posts: 563
From: Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 10:25 PM
It wasn't just you B.
The general tone was from a few people. I have a right to express myself without being told how & in what format I should do it, period.
It seems that I didn't respond how other thought I ought too, I don't like that. If you don't agree say so & say why if that pleases you.
So as one free person to another can I remind us & other who hinted quite blatantly, that we aren't living in communist China. IP: Logged |
Cheshire Kat
Knowflake Posts: 428
From: Wonderland
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 10:43 PM
Looking at Jen and Brad's synatry, they have a lot of Saturn, this can either be really binding or suffercating..Maybe Brad left Jen because he felt suffercated(I mean Brad is already pretty Saturnine himself more Saturn probably felt like he buried under a giant boulder..=/) and Angelina offered some sort of excitement to him..? I somehow hope Jen does not take Brad back not after all that as happen..even though they have very binding synastry..Jen needs not to be so obsessive and suffercating and Brad..well he just needs to work things out with Angelina for the kid's sake, make a clean break.. IP: Logged |
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