posted March 21, 2010 03:30 PM         

So my question is, what planets are in your 8th, and how does it play out for you? Anyone else struggle with their 8th? I can’t be the only one!

Also, I thought this was a good article that explains a lot of how my 8th plays out for me and wanted to share.

The Mysteries of the 8th House: House of Death & Transformation

http://merliannews.com/Astrolog y_11/The_Mysteries_of_the_8th_House_House_of_Death_Transformation_by_Carmen_Turner_Schott_MSW_LISW_printer.shtml

posted March 21, 2010 03:36 PM         

Do I struggle with it?
You can bet I do.

Fear of intimacy and yet a compulsive need for feeling really close to someone.
A real stop and go thingy - well more stop than go actually.

Very serious in 8th house issues. Letting go of someone I really care for is not just difficult, it seems to be impossible. So it often seems easier to not grant anyone entrance in my 8th house at all.

posted March 21, 2010 03:48 PM         

I don't have any regular planets in the 8th house.

I have retrograde,centaur Chiron in Aries in the 8th.
I could relate to wounds,pain,wounded healing involvin 8th house stuff like sexual matters. Barbara Hand Clow said that there is karmic issues involving 8th house matters as well as powerful occult potential

but after the discovery of transneptunian dwarf planet, Eris,
I found out that I have it retrograde in Aries in 8th. It's conjunct my Chiron.

The Chiron-Eris conjunction is sextile my Midheaven

at the end of the article, it said the following:

"True healers, body workers, counselors, paramedics, detectives, psychiatrists and psychics usually have planets in the eighth house. The most powerful healers often have Pluto here. Several body workers, reiki masters, and pranic healers have this placement. The most important thing to remember is that the eighth house does not lie. It calls out of the woodwork all truths, emotions, feelings, and thoughts. Those with eyes to see will see. Just remember to experience this as oneness with others, not separateness. In the end, this will only increase your abilities and understanding of your purpose here on earth. The eighth house is nothing to be afraid of, because it is a blessing in disguise. Individuals with planets here are truly our world’s future healers."

Well..Pluto is not not a planet. It's a transneptunian dwarf planet. Astrologers say that it is a very powerful placement for the 8th house.

If that's the case

What about Eris? It's a transneptunian dwarf planet like Pluto. It's larger than Pluto too.

Eris would also be a very powerful placement for the 8th house.

It could be a placement for a powerful healer

also the other transneptunian dwarf planets, Makemake, Haumea and transneptunian dwarf planet candidates, Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,and Ixion in 8th could be powerful 8th house placements

they all orbit beyond Neptune like Pluto. Sedna orbits way beyond all those objects.

any ways

I'd say that my Eris in 8th fits with my sex hormonal divergence (high estrogen levels,lower than average testerone levels) leading to my not fitting the male stereotype,supporting women's rights and homosexual rights. It could fit with interracial sex. It also could fit challenge the status quo when it comes to psychiatry and pointing out misdiagnosing neurodivergents as well as point out racism in psychiatry which could make me seem controversial. This is seen with Eris in 8th sextile Midheaven,biquintile Mercury in Scorpio in 3rd.

I have Africa-Africano-Chiron-Eris (all retrograde) in Aries in 8th sextile my Midheaven.

My Sun is oppose/conjunct Eris Nodes in Taurus/Scorpio in 2nd/8th houses which fit with the retrograde Eris in 8th.

There is the possibility that my cause of death could be connected to equality matters,diversity,controversy,discord.

Philip Sedgwick listed murder as one of Eris' mundane keywords

Eris also trines my Ceres in 11th, sextiles/trines my North Lunar Node in Aquarius/Leo in 5th/11th houses, Vertex/Antivertex Axis in Aquarius/Leo in 5th/11th houses

My retrograde Sedna in 2'06 Taurus is in 8th house...it could be similar to Neptune in 8th, but a lot more otherworldly. It sextiles my Moon in Pisces in 6th,quincunx my Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd and Pluto in Libra in 1st.

so 2 big transneptunians in my 8th house

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 21, 2010 04:03 PM         

Does an full on 8th house in a composite also point to struggles and challenges of death and transformation, i wonder?

posted March 21, 2010 04:08 PM         

if I consider the Transneptunians I have Orcus and Makemake in 8th house.
(well, Orcus in 8th house sounds pretty Plutonic-underworldy to me).

posted March 21, 2010 04:17 PM         

if I consider the Transneptunians I have Orcus and Makemake in 8th house.
(well, Orcus in 8th house sounds pretty Plutonic-underworldy to me)."

well..Makemake is an official dwarf planet/Plutoid like Pluto,Eris,and Haumea. It's Pluto's equal.

Transneptunian dwarf planet Orcus is a plutino. It has very similar orbit to Pluto's. They both have 2:3 orbital resonance with Neptune,and that why Orcus is named after Etruscan God of the Underworld.

so yeah....Orcus in 8th would seem very similar to Pluto in 8th

Makemake is named after Rapanui fertility,creation God.
Makemake in 8th might be a strong emphasis on reproduction

both placements can be very powerful for metaphysical,healing matters

"Eris in 8th house sounds pretty challenging."

It doesn't have to be challenging

none of the transneptunians have to be challenging

they are just about evolutionary intensified lessons/experiences

like I said before

Eris in 8th can be supporting women's rights,homosexuality rights, and advocating in the behalf of neurodivergents in regards to psychiatric misdiagnoses, questioning psychiatry and pointing out the flaws in it
interracial sex isn't bad either

main thing is about diversity,equality matters in 8th house matters

it can be very powerful for metaphysical,healing matters.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 21, 2010 04:24 PM         

BTW when I call something "challenging", I do not necessarily mean "bad".
"challenging" for me implies, that there is a certain emphasis / intensity to a certain theme; something that requires your attention and will be very pronounced, in both ways, the positive and the negative expressions.

So maybe I used the word "challenging" in the wrong way.

Hmm, a fertility God in my 8th house - that is something I have to think a bit about.

I do agree, that probably they are indicating the emphasis on metaphysical matters for me.
It definitely is an important issue for me.

posted March 21, 2010 04:32 PM         

Ami

PS One thing the article said about wonderful people coming in to your life is 100% true for me. They will have a love and caring for me that seems supernatural.

posted March 21, 2010 04:38 PM         

Ceres in 8th house can be significant for it's a dwarf planet like Pluto. It's Pluto's equal in Astronomy.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 21, 2010 05:10 PM         

Well...it's not similar to Pluto in Astronomy. It just has the same dwarf planet,classification as Pluto,Eris,Makemake,and Haumea.

Ceres is the only asteroid to be classed as a dwarf planet.

Ceres is actually a prototype planet aka planet embryo. It failed to become full-fledged planet. Ceres is large,round,and has water ice compared to unlike the other asteroids.
http://planetary.org/explore/topics/asteroids_and_comets/ceres.html

With Ceres being large, I couldn't understand why Astrolabe and other astrological companies made made in depth interpretations for much smaller Chiron available and none for Ceres.
I also wonder if they are reconsidering giving Ceres in depth interpretations after it being promoted to dwarf planet and so higher ranking than Chiron in Astronomy and the equal to Pluto in Astronomy.

This is Solar Fire's interpretation for Ceres in 8th house:

You feel nourished when you experience deep and intense emotions. You may nurture yourself by delving into metaphysical matters. You may find or give comfort in sexual experiences; or care for dying people.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 21, 2010 06:15 PM         

I get told that I seem like a scorpio - however it could come from anywhere in my chart.

posted March 21, 2010 06:18 PM         

The whole article was spot on.

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Eighth house individuals remind me of the Phoenix, they are survivors. They are destined to go through emotional, physical and material death at sometime in their lives.

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Totally true.

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Eighth house individuals can see through other people’s motives, thoughts, and actions. What others show them on the outside is insignificant, because they will zone into the true energy, thoughts and emotions of others.

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Again, totally true.

The story about the social worker happens to me so often that I finally listen to what i suspect and act on it. I think people think I'm psychic, but I just notice things no one else does. I am amazing at reading body language. You can't hide what you're really thinking because your body will betray you. I catch onto this naturally. It's not something that I learned. I was like this as a child too. I actually don't think it can be taught -- it's innate, although people can learn to looks for certain things, it's not always textbook cues.

posted March 21, 2010 06:25 PM         

I have Sun/Venus both in Sag there.

I can relate to DD who said about not letting people go easily. Although, I haven't yet learned how to not let them in the first place.

In respect to death, I have had more deaths in my life then the average person. At least, that's what I've been told.
Most people my age still have a grandparent, or at least, had one in the not so distant past. I haven't had them in years.
It's strange in a way, when so many people you love die, you almost come to expect it.
It desensitizes you, sort of.

I notice 8th house people have a different perspective about death, in that we are able to discuss it alot, and even joke about it, which horrifies other people.

posted March 21, 2010 06:41 PM         

that article is so true - i totally see my life as a phoenix rising from the ashes. Nothing can destroy me; i've never suffered a breakdown and should really have had several and i am constantly dying and being reborn