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jane
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posted June 02, 2010 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hippi -

Ah yes, the obsessive thoughts. Maybe you won't have to go so far as to let it out in action. Perhaps if you grant yourself permission to feel all that you're feeling and to imagine all the monstrous things you're imagining, you will satisfy your Sco Asc. Feel Sco with no shame and all its force, and I'm sure all that Pisces of yours will love it and heal where it hurts.

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posted June 02, 2010 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
teasel -

What degree is your Sco Asc? I like the way you think. I'm wondering if you have it near my Mercury or if there's something else in synastry that shows my affection.

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posted June 03, 2010 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lara,
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I disagree. It's like saying anyone who got murdered by Jekyll and Hyde had it coming to them and it was their fault!

I do know you remarked that you were burned by a Scorp tho I do stand by my post as it accurately reflects my personal experiences and intuitions. Also, I do believe it's much easier for one water sign to understand another since you do relate on a different level than with others, and from what I remember you're Fire/Earth dominant.

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posted June 03, 2010 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Gypsee,
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You should see my son and daughter fight, it's really... just WOW!

I read your example dialogue and that sounds like normal teenage BS, nothing Scorpionic about it.

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posted June 03, 2010 06:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK--I come back--head in hands---I have the Scorpio ASC traits.
I just could not face them.
I am rarely if ever the aggressor BUT if someone aggresses me--watch out.
I faced it last night. I meet with the same group of people two nights a week.
One girl aggressed on me badly after my son died and I was in a weakened state.
She tried to turn the other girls(men don't usually play dumb games like this lol) against me.
When I saw her last night--I was cold as the coldest Scorpio ASC could be.
She has tried to make up with me several times but I am cold as ice.
However, if a person truly is sorry ---I let it go--not sorry that they just got caught.

Ami

PS A Scorpio ASC who denies their Scorpio/Pluto power will turn it inward,I think, as I did,or ELSE will act it out in their environment by finding an abuser which I did , too.

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posted June 03, 2010 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polarities do exist and I am quite sure there is a positve expression of the negative side of which we speak.

Just gotta find it!

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posted June 03, 2010 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've only read half of page one so far and I have to say... Hippi and Teasel, you are both Scorpio AC?!?! I did not know that. The "love of my life" up until now was a Virgo with Leo Moon and Scorp AC and he was as cruel as could be. No one would guess it from his Virgo exterior and jovial Leo moon. He's the one I talked about long ago who I envisioned as the guy in a tower sniping people when he finally snapped.
I had a Sag with Pisces moon girlfriend with Scorpio AC and she flirted with above bf and I got silent on her so she simply cut me out of her and her daughter's lives when they were basically my family. I see her from time to time and she is sometimes friendly and sometimes makes biting and sarcastic comments meant to hurt. I've never been able to have a relationship with her daughter again and I loved that little girl - now adult girl.

You better love me forever Hippi and Teasel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted June 03, 2010 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
meta -

Top notch articulation of the Scorpio Asc.

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But I don't have hate in me for anyone who has done me wrong. Instead, I internalize that hatred, and turn it onto myself for not foreseeing the hurt they would cause. For granting them the power to affect me with their wrong-doing.

I understand. I was like that too. But you didn't screw up by granting someone that power. When you do that, you're taking a courageous risk. We can never know with certainty if someone deserves power over our heart. There will always be a risk. That's what the 5th house/Leo is so brilliant at. Taking that risk. Sco offers many strengths, but it also tempts us to see something strong and beautiful as a weakness, when it really isn't. Your Leo Sun and its loving openness is what allows love to thrive! Don't hate yourself for being a lover when someone else screws up. They're just not yet capable of love, that's all. You have a gift they don't.

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posted June 03, 2010 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami -

Oh God, I'm so sorry about your son.

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She has tried to make up with me several times but I am cold as ice.
However, if a person truly is sorry ---I let it go--not sorry that they just got caught.

Yes, Sco demands a sincere heart since that's what's required for deep communication and transformation. If I can be in that zone with someone who hurt me, I can forgive nearly anything. Superficial demonstrations of repentance mean nothing.

I'm sorry you even have to see her face.

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posted June 03, 2010 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MM -

Only a very sick person would be cruel to you.

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posted June 03, 2010 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, Mel I will love you forever!

I do not think the Scorpio energy is very discernable online.

I do not think any energy is particularly evident online.

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You, all, I was thinking whilst out doing yard work, that the Scorpio energy is quite "awesome" and whoever the fool was who took back Pluto as being a planet is quite the idiot! It is a difficult energy to deal with and probably should be channeled into something "creative" and not destructive, or not let go caty-wonkas here and there, un-leashed.

I also think that it is very difficult for those not attuned to the Scorp energy to handle it at all. For instance some very earthty/airy individual would probably flee.

On our first date, that is with my most recent, my most b-loved love, ex-love, he asked me why I was single...I told him that I tend to scare men...and he replied "not me!!!" (tho I now know it was his xtream Aries influence that said that, yea Aries asc despite a loving Pisces sun....)

Anwyay, even he could not deal with the intensity of the Scorpio energy. I am quite sure he thought he could, but in the end, my Scorp Asc could have put him down so, so, physcially due to his health issues, and metaphorically ended us....(would never hurt the man, love him....)

Thank you again ladies and I continue to seek a creative channel for this scary energy!!!

blessings!!!

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posted June 03, 2010 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Jane for those sweet words!
The problem is not her cuz there are people like her everywhere.
The problem is my fear of my OWN power.
*I* feel guilty when I use my own power for my OWN protection.
However, I had a breakthrough--maybe from this thread.
I am not sure but I see I MUST embrace Pluto's strength cuz it is there.
If not--I will play it out somehow in my environment such as drawing abuse to myself.
Do you know what I mean?


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posted June 03, 2010 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Do you know what I mean?

Is the Pope Catholic?

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posted June 03, 2010 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank God I am not alone LOL.

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posted June 03, 2010 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenfullmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh lord, I don't get revenge on ANYONE, ever. Never done it. I strongly suspect it'll only bite ME in the ass if I try, so I haven't.

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posted June 03, 2010 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 03, 2010 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, Jane, I am thinking about your question and for me, it depends on the guy.Most of my boyfriends were earth.Fighting with an earth guy feels bad--not exciting.It feels like a pancake that is too heavy .
Now-with a fire/Scorp guy--it is different.Then,intensity feels arousing.
What do you think?


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posted June 03, 2010 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all so much for contributing to this thread.

Quite catharic to say the least, for me.

Maybe the positive expression of this difficult energy is just in this, self healing? Healing of others???

Funny, while we "know" who we are, acknowledgment is a different expression.

Blessings to all

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posted June 03, 2010 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami -

Pancake lol. Most of the men I've been with have had earth Suns. I love pancakes!

I get what you mean though. You need that right chemistry with the other person. Some people make you feel too miserable during a fight. Some make you never want to have sex again, let alone right then with them.

I think with me, it's like everything I'm passionate about rises to the surface. If I'm fighting to preserve one thing, then I feel how I would fight for him too. For what we have together.

It also depends on if my feelings were hurt. If I'm feeling sad, then I don't get turned on. That's when I need *him* to bring the comfort sex. When I'm in warrior mode, that's when I initiate sex. It's difficult for me not to become sexually aggressive when I'm in that zone.

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posted June 03, 2010 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hippi -

Thanks for starting this thread. We should have a support group.

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posted June 03, 2010 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
((((LL Friends)))))

x o x o Ami

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posted June 03, 2010 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane

I agree!!!

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posted June 03, 2010 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Jane. My ascendant is 2*56 Scorpio (here's my chart).

One of my best friends, between the ages of 8 and 13, was a Sagittarian boy, with Sun conjunct Venus and Neptune in Sadge, and Mercury conjunct Mars in Scorpio (I'll have to check his chart again). We moved to the Heathrow area within days of each other ~ hit it off immediately ~ and moved away within weeks of each other. His Scorpio conjunction fell on my mother's Venus - she adored him, and hoped that we would grow up, get married, and have babies together. He was too much of a playboy (even at the age of eight) for me, but he was so sweet to me.

One of my favourite memories, is a Saturday evening we spent together... we were all supposed to be going out to a kid's/teenager's dance in West Drayton, but I didn't want to go ~ he stayed home with me, and kept me company.

*edit. I've just looked at his chart, and Moon in Taurus strikes again... His chart ~ I'll delete it, later on. He got married in February - his mum tagged him in a photo album on Facebook, over the weekend, and they look very happy. When we were in school, girls would fling themselves at him ~ it was surreal. His lovely wife is a Leo.

(Be back later, to read the rest of the thread ~ I just remembered his Mercury in Scorpio, and went off down memory lane... I'll delete this later.)

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posted June 04, 2010 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm having one of those nights where I write something, only to want to delete it half-an-hour later.

There are also several things I can relate to in this thread, and Chiron Synastry, and I'm back to feeling as though I should just change my name to Ditto, and quote whatever I relate to - my only contribution being those two little upwards indicators that people post, to show what they're agreeing with (if I had any idea how to do that... oh, I see: ^^) I just feel weird tonight.

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posted June 04, 2010 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Teasel,
Those impulsive movements to delete you posts are so Uranus conjunct Sco asc,, LOL! You are even worse then me, when it comes to paranoia, girl!

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