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Ami Ann
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posted June 13, 2010 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
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posted June 13, 2010 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,

yes, I also have problems posting on LL since yesterday. It`s really slow, and sometimes will show an error message.

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Ami Ann
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posted June 13, 2010 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I thought MY computer was broken .I have been leaving it on too long. Would that do it--I wonder.
It has been happening since yesterday Afternoon.
What about you, DD?
Was that when you noticed it?

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posted June 13, 2010 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Fascinating answers. This group is the best and smartest EVER

I am seeing that I DO have the Scorp ASC traits. I have been afraid of their insight in to life.
Scorpio can see in to the bowels of the world and it is not pretty.
Scorpio can see the ugliness of life and of oneself.
It hurts like fire.

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posted June 13, 2010 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Same here. Very slow.

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Ami Ann
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posted June 13, 2010 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
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posted June 13, 2010 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
You know, DD, I can feel the Aries in you. I feel courage, directness, strength--all Mars qualities. You have Mars conjunct the ASC.
You said YOU could not feel this--right?
I can feel the water in Vapor--her ASC.
I can feel the strong earth in Benedict--the straight forward,tell it like it is, no fuss
Capricorn.

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posted June 13, 2010 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,

thanks for the compliment.
Yes, I consider Aries-qualities being a compliment.

I don´t know. No, I don`t feel very courageous or strong. Actually I know noone who is so scared of many things as I am. But one of the things I try to do (and do not always succeed) is that I do not want to give in to my fears (well I do too many times, but it is a learning process).
And I am not good in doing compromise, or let`s put it differently; if I find noone who wants to see a certain show with me, I will go on my own.
And if noone wants to join me on a trip to Paris or London or whereever, I will go on my own.
It`s a fighting-my-fears things, too.

I once talked to a friend about that, who finds it a horrible idea to go to the cinema on her own, or having dinner in a restaurant with no company. But what choice do I have, if I want to see something and noone else will?

If that is Arian, then I am probably really having some of these traits.

I also considered myself being lenient, peaceful and so on, until one day my brother told me how much he admires that I will never avoid any discussion and being rather passionate in defending my position (and not giving in, even if I suspect I may not be entirely right ).

I never seen that in me, and certainly wouldn´t ahve considered this to be a good quality. LOL
But he knows what he is talking about, he has Venus and Mars in Aries in 1st house.


And yes, I also thought the computer might have been running too long yesterday. But even today it was very slow.


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posted June 13, 2010 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message
It's interesting that you mention this Ami...

It's not that I've never felt like my Scorpio Asc. It's just that I rarely relate to the descriptions that people have given me about myself (which seem like they would go along with Scorpio Asc descriptions).

For instance... One of my best friends told me (years later) that when she first met me she thought that I was "the coolest person in the room." That was blatantly opposite from how I felt about myself at the time. I felt like "the dorkiest person in the room." (I have a lot of Virgo and Sagittarius in my chart; and I tend to be a combination of very smart and a joker, so thinking of myself as "cool" was never an option).

Then was a guy I dated. He rarely gave compliments, but when he did, he usually meant them. I remember that at some point he offhandedly told me that I was "cool as sh*t." Again I was taken aback since I tend to think of myself as dorky, awkward, and silly.

It goes on like that with comments I've had from others.

Furthermore, in recent years I've been called "the bad girl" which I HIGHLY disagree with. I like to have fun yes, and I joke, but I'm not off the wall or calculating.

I have to assume that this has to do with the sexual undertones of Scorpio. It doesn't help that I have a strong Mars in my chart. Though I am not promiscuous and I don't feel like I portray myself as overly flirtatious (though yes, I am SOMETIMES a flirt), I still seem to get the bad girl label. I was absolutely flabbergasted when an acquaintance of mine from college that I saw a few years after college got a little drunk and then told me that in college he thought of me as a "pseudo-sl*t." When I got offended, he justified what he said by saying: "Well, at least I didn't call you a sl*t."

I tend to see myself as dorky, silly, and fairly innocent, if a little blunt and harsh sometimes (Virgo sun, Aries Moon, Saggy Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune). So this cool bad girl thing doesn't make sense to me, but I do think it would go along with the Scorpio Asc part of me.

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posted June 13, 2010 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Very interesting, Enchatress(a Scopio name )
What are your placements---
Venus, Mars,Pluto etc and what are your important aspects--if you can say?
I am wondering why you appear this way to others when you don't feel it. It sounds like you might have a strong Venus/Pluto aspect.

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posted June 13, 2010 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,
I am going to hassle you now. You have a great intuition,
How do you feel my Asc? The options are: Aqua, Pisc, Aries, Gem.
I know I am being a pest, but it really buggers me not knowing.
Thank you!

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Ami Ann
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posted June 13, 2010 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
You are NOT a pest at all,Starkiss---one bit. I just have to get to know you more.
I will keep it in mind as we talk more on here.


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posted June 13, 2010 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Ami, thank you
Anything you want to ask me?

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posted June 13, 2010 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
It is for me. I have been around astrology for years now, so maybe I've conditioned myself to embrace my Ascendant's nature, but yeah, it's a significant contributing factor.

If I wished to argue against myself, however, the fact that I have three planets in the sign opposite my Ascendant might also fool me into thinking my Ascendant played a big role. I could believe my Sagittarian placements make me have Geminian qualities.

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Ami Ann
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posted June 13, 2010 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Starkiss
I am thinking about your options--Gem, Aqua, Pisces or Aries.
I cannot really feel a definite one but I will think about a few of them and tell me what you think.
Gemini is talk, talk talk. They elaborate and elaborate some more. You seem more concise than this so I would eliminate Gemini.
Aries seems more outspoken and fiery in their tone .
Aqua and Pisces seem the best possibilities. You seem idealistic and kind which would make me vote for Aqua.
You seem sweet, giving and very loving which would make me vote for Pisces.
I would vote for Pisces but more based on logic than actually feeling the sense of it from you cuz I would need more interaction than we have had .
Thank you for asking . It was a compliment that you considered my input valuable!


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posted June 13, 2010 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,
No, I worded it wrong.
The choice of my asc':
Aqua, Pisc, Ari all in 1 house(intercepted)
Or
Gemini.
You are a solar Gem and you described yourself
perfectly before. Have you got a vibe from me as a familiar Gem?
"Gemini loves to have fun.Gemini's can make fun out of simple times in life.
They love to read .Books are friends.
Gemini's have to be social. They love the phone.
They are skittish about responsibility. When heavy responsibility comes, they panic.
They feel like they are not up to the task.
Gemini's are very curious and love to pick a person's brain on a topic or study a whole new topic until they feel they know enough to leave it.
Then, they will go on to a new topic.
I, as Gem Sun,Mercury and Venus am never bored.
Ami

PS This is just from my personal experience. I am not saying all Gemini's are like this"

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posted June 13, 2010 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
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Gemini is talk, talk talk. They elaborate and elaborate some more. You seem more concise than this so I would eliminate Gemini.

I'm Gemini Rising, and I'm quite concise thanks to Saturn (in the 1st) opposing my Mercury.

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posted June 13, 2010 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
AG,
Where did you get this quote from?
I missed it.

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posted June 13, 2010 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
AG,Ok, I got it. My posts arrive too late.

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posted June 13, 2010 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
You don't feel Gemini- like to me, Starkiss.
Your writing seems more concise and thoughtful rather than chatty and airy.
This is just my impression and other people could feel your writing, differently.


Ami
I could see Aqua and Pisces in you. I don't feel Aries but if I had to choose the Aqua/Pisces/ Aries OR the Gemini--I would choose the Aqua/Pisces/Aries ---no contest.

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posted June 13, 2010 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,
Thank you, I feel the same, apart from Aries bit. I can be pushy and impatient.
I think I am too heavy for Gem Asc, if you know what I mean,

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posted June 13, 2010 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
I was going to say that Aries isn't always pushy and impatient, but I have been today. (with one person who has deliberately tested my patience - I wish I didn't care so much.)

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posted June 13, 2010 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
As AG mentioned, a planet conjunct the ascendant - or other aspects to the ascendant - can affect the way you come across. I have Uranus conjunct my Scorpio ascendant, as well as a trine from Mars in Pisces, and inconjuncts from Moon/Venus and Jupiter.

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posted June 13, 2010 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Teasel,
"I was going to say that Aries isn't always pushy and impatient, but I have been today. (with one person who has deliberately tested my patience - I wish I didn't care so much.)"
Yes, that is my case usually.
When I say "pushy" I mean more like being impatient and wanting to do things right away and expect it from other people too.
And if other people test my patience, which is in short supply, and I go crazy at them, after a while I think I should have just let it go instead of making a fuss.

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posted June 13, 2010 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Planets conjunct the ascendant and also where the ascendant ruler lands is going to determine a lot. I feel more like my Mars in the 1st which conj my ascendant than a Taurus rising. I am definitely not the slow plodding type as far as how I appear to others or to myself. That Mars, even though it's in Taurus, is still a Mars which squares Jupiter, and it overrides a whole lot of the Taurus rising descriptions.

I think the flat-out associations with just signs on the ascendant are really impersonal and kind of bland IMO... esp if another planet or a number of them are right there in the 1st as well.

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