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Lonake
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posted September 01, 2010 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Nephthys,
I associate fear of heights with Saturn, because Saturn is afraid of losing control.
I have the same fear as well and am convinced that I fell to my death in a past life (if there are past lives) -- the feeling of falling, and the absolute dread is so palpable, it feels like I've already fallen even just walking closer to the edge, terrifying.

I have fear of SNAKES as well, I don't like how they can move without having arms or legs, and also the fact that every time i pass by one it looks me straight in the eye as if it can read me.
Most likely Pluto-ruled, Snakes, right?
I have Pluto aspecting Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, Saturn, Neptune, and its angular.

I don't know if this is a phobia or what but I can't stand HAIR just lying about anywhere, it makes me sick to my stomach and I have to go vomit. It took me years to learn how to pick up hair from the bathroom floor without nausea every time. Still even I see a hair laying around and it makes my stomach absolutely churn, and then I have to make a strange cough because all of a sudden I will feel hair in my throat, a sort of dry cough, it's very annoying to me and other people. It's worst at night time, then I have to go try to drink milk to soothe my throat.
I think that's Libra related cos Libra suns have expressed to me that they feel the same a lot, obviously mine is a more extreme reaction. Mars, Saturn, Pluto in Libra.

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whatever sign/house saturn is in, i find that guilt fear and shame are associated with that issue.

This could be true for me, electricmind (!)
Because Saturn is conj Pluto in Libra in an Airy house which fits for all the above.

Someone mentioned CROWDS and those make me sick, too. I start to feel like I'm rapidly losing touch with reality when I'm in a crowded shopping mall for example, the feeling is literally that I'm 'falling away from the Earth' and it's very scary. And I will start to lose my vision, sometimes partially, sometimes completely, I've gone blind in crowds, and my hearing will mess up because everyone will all of a sudden sound as if they're very far away. It's *incredibly* disorienting.
I don't know what astro crowds are associated with.

Lioness,

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I have always had dreams of someone killing me..
These are the only dreams I remember.

When I was pregnant I constantly had dreams of being murdered. I wonder if yours could be symbolic to represent a new you, continually re-emerging, rapidly changing life circumstances, etc. Not to discount your fear, not at all, I'd take adequate precautions if i had the same fear.

BenedictMoon,

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And its true! When I see mass amount of holes or bumps that are arranged in rows, I do not get the same crawling-itching sensaton as when I see them just clustered togetther at random (like on a lotus pod...*shivers*).

I get the same feeling too, but not the itchiness, just the crawling.

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iQ
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posted September 01, 2010 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
All ETS have their own agenda. Most Greys are negative today, who knows they might "jump ship" tomorrow. Many of them have achieved great things in their own Star Systems.

They are a dying civilization, and their abduction experiments on humanity are to improve their own cloning techniques and perpetuate their race using hybridization.

An average human Alpha can thump 5-6 Greys in unarmed combat. Which is why they visit whomsever's DNA sample they need at times when the human will be undergoing "Sleep Paralysis". They can psychically lock the person at this moment. The whole abduction scene is a "memory implant", the Greys just take a skin, hair or semen sample and leave. Nobody is beamed up any spaceship.
[ There may very rare and extreme cases of females carrying hubrid babies being taken to space ships and delivering the hybrids to the care of Greys. I have not met such a victim and cannot comment.]

Whistle Blowers will reveal an abduction scenario that can be conveniently belittled by professional skeptics working for the NSA and thats the end of that.

Greys cannot kill an abductee and cannot harm an abductee out of their own will. Imagining violet beams blasting them from your Pineal Gland will send them out of the house. Surrounding your home in violet tetrahedral is another way to keep this psychic pest away.

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iQ
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posted September 01, 2010 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
I will shift my previous post later to Divine Diversities. About NLP, I will post in "Health and Healing" Section after editing my notes. We will also see customized visualizations to help out. In person it is very easy, I can use my voice to eradicate that inner fear mongering voice that prods a phobia victim. In remote counseling, the person must stringently and honestly try out the exercises. It is advisable to have a friend read out the visualization scripts slowly.

The basics are very easy, just practice seeing whatever scares you as a tiny, black and white pixel, fearfully awaiting its death by your foot.

Those who fear Greys, just practice seeing tears of fear from punishment in the Grey's eyes. Watch its image become smaller and smaller and smaller till its a speck of weeping dust.

This technique will work for snakes as well. For bugs/creepy crawlies, there are other techniques. For fear of heights as well there are other methods. We will explore all possible techniques.


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DiandraReborn25
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posted September 01, 2010 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
IQ

does that work also for midl social anxiety and fear of talking in public?

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meta_4
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posted September 01, 2010 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
Lonake,

Interesting how you have a heavily aspected Pluto (comme moi) and you're afraid of Snakes.

Do you have any... reason? Like, do you feel afraid of their attack, or just creeped out by them? Have you always felt like this, or did it stem from an experience you've had?

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Ami Ann
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posted September 01, 2010 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Lonake
Do you have Venus in Virgo?


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bunnies
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posted September 01, 2010 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
I have a fear of still water. Can't look down into it. In fact I have a fear of water in general except for the sea which does not bother me one bit.

I can't use public toilets if anyone is in a cubicle near to me.

I can't bear to look at people dressed like Puritans. Actually can't watch any film with them in. Hid under the seat during The Scarlet Letter.

Doll's heads! Freak me out. Once in a bar in Spain there were all these dolls heads in a display and that made me queasy.

And my worst fear which is so bad I can barely type it.It's an obvious one but I can't speak it.I ran out of Kill Bill 2 screaming.
It's being buried alive....oh sweet Jesus....I can't even read it back!

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bunnies
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posted September 01, 2010 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Oh dear moderator.
Any chance you can delete that post after a few days?
Oh why did I write it??

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Nephthys
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posted September 01, 2010 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
So many deep replies since I left yesterday!!!

Spool, I remember the Travis Walton story.....since you mentioned him. And I was terrified of being abducted when I was little/growing up. Why? B/c I was basically bombarded with tons of documentaries about aliens when I was little, and my Dad took us to an auditorium/skyview type show about them when I was little.

Now my theory is, if I ever get abducted, I will just cooperate fully with them, give them whatever samples they want, and be on my merry way again. Kind of like when I clean my dog's ears........I always tell her, the sooner we get it over with, the sooner it's done.

Lonake, you and I would get along great together b/c we have such similar fears/annoyances. I can't stand seeing other people's hairs lying around, but don't get grossed out over my own. Yeah, standing at an edge/cliff.......I feel sooooo out of control, so uncomfortable.......I probably did die that way in some past life.

I think I mentioned the Crowds thing.......I think b/c we are sensitive people, that it's probably just too many people's energies bombarding all of our sensory systems and we can't sort it all out, we can't focus.

IQ, what do you mean that the whole abduction scene is a memory implant? If they don't really abduct us, and just take samples while we are sleeping, then what is the point of making us think we were abducted?

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Nephthys
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posted September 01, 2010 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
bunnies,

all of your fears sound (to me) totally things you could have experienced in past lives. I am claustrophobic, which is similar to your bba thing. I kind of don't want to be buried.......what if I am not really dead, and then wake up after? I know it's silly but I think of things like this.

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teasel
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posted September 01, 2010 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
I think bunnies is just being silly.

I would have no problem with driving, if I wasn't afraid of hurting someone, somehow.

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Nephthys
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posted September 01, 2010 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
What, is she making all of that up? Not really fair when people are discussing sensitive things that are very personal to them.

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Ami Ann
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posted September 01, 2010 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
All these phobias are giving me new ones and I don't need new ones


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amowls*
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posted September 01, 2010 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Spool, why Gemini influences?

Gem is my rising sign but its not that prominent in my chart. Aqua/Sag are much stronger.

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iQ
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posted September 01, 2010 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
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IQ, what do you mean that the whole abduction scene is a memory implant? If they don't really abduct us, and just take samples while we are sleeping, then what is the point of making us think we were abducted
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Simple, the drama of an abduction can be made to appear unrealistic by the NSA Agencies. See, the Greys have a contract since Roswell [some say 1953] with the Black Ops of the US Government. And as per the Brookings Report, the US People are not ready for Disclosure, so all Black Ops are duty bound to suppress Alien Info, and to make it look as if whistle blowers are deranged/insane/stressed out folk. There is even a fraudulent Psychiatric team trying to lie that all abduction experiences are a psychiatric illness because they have the same pattern [conveniently "programmed" ].

If it were a psychiatric illness, how come people in Arabia, India, Africa or Pakistan or China are not complaining about abduction? Well, there is no contract with these governments.

The disinformation b*stard Carl Sagan also tried to make out that all abductees were liars, and insulted them as if talking about demonic abduction in history.

From Wiki:
"Mainstream scientists reject claims that the phenomenon literally occurs as reported. However, there is little doubt that many apparently stable persons who report alien abductions are sincere.[8] As reported in the Harvard University Gazette in 1992, Dr. John Edward Mack investigated over 800 claimed abductees, and "spent countless therapeutic hours with these individuals only to find that what struck him was the 'ordinariness' of the population, including a restaurant owner, several secretaries, a prison guard, college students, a university administrator, and several homemakers ... 'The majority of abductees do not appear to be deluded, confabulating, lying, self-dramatizing, or suffering from a clear mental illness,' he maintained."

Just wait till 2016, all will be revealed. The Star Seed phenomenon is just getting started. People are slowly getting the courage. Yesterday, a Nordic ET Contactee emailed me. He is what you may call "a beef steak loving red blooded middle class American from Texas ".
Fear of ridicule keeps these wonderful and honest people quiet.

Anyway, we must discuss this on another thread. God knows how many contactees/abductees are reading this here.
Hope they get courage.
If their Mercury is not exact square Neptune, they just cannot be lying about this.

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PlutoSquared
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posted September 01, 2010 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
I have a real fear of rotting after I die (even though I know there's no helping it, unless I get mummified or cryogenically frozen). I would have to say this qualifies as a phobia because I've had it for a while...

I'd attribute this to my libra influences, because anything that stinks, has bugs, falls apart, and just looks disgusting is seriously disturbing to me.

I also have an incredible fear of black holes...

I can't explain that one with any aspects in my chart except for sun opposition pluto?

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starkiss1
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posted September 01, 2010 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think I would want to talk about my real fears. It makes them Real. Don't want that.
My funny fears are being on the plane and insects. I am ok with mice, snakes and the rest, but show me any insect and I am gone.
When I have to go on the plane,I fear the total loss of control. What exactly can you do being in a metal capsule flying so high above the ground if somebody in the cockpit loses it? NOTHING. That scares me. I love driving, though, because I am behind the wheel.

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posted September 02, 2010 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
I have a fear of anaesthetics. It's not due to anything irrantional though, so I don't think it's a phobia as such. When I was 7 I woke up during an operation so I think a mistrust there is understandable.

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Peri
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posted September 02, 2010 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
ohh PA, that happened to me too when I was 16! but then I had another operation and thanks God this time everything went well.

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Ami Ann
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posted September 02, 2010 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Lonake
When you come back---I want to ask you if you have Venus in Virgo?

Thanks
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Lonake
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posted September 02, 2010 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Meta,
Yes I feel they're going to kill me, rush over to me unprovoked. The only thing I remember is that when my mom was dying I kept having nightmares of snakes, progressive dreams where they'd be flooding into the room through these very tall doors, they'd just fill the hallway to the ceiling. Then when she died that one stopped. Now every time I get depressed I have nightmares of snakes, sometimes being constricted, etc. then when I'm feeling better I'll be defeating the snake, as in one dream where I actually bit into one, and I woke up tasting a dead snake in my mouth.

Ami,
No, but I have Venus in H6, why?

bunnies, you're hilarious

Nepthys,

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Lonake, you and I would get along great together b/c we have such similar fears/annoyances.

This is one of my favorite quotes
Awesome reason to be friends.

Kids, I'm gonna be cremated no doubt. No way my body is gonna be in the ground, that whole idea does not sit well with me. The only thing I like about graveyards are the gorgeous old headstones.

Ami
My new one is aliens, I'm off to google images to see if any of em look familiar.

iQ,
Do you have real life experience with an alien?
My uncle says he does, but then again he was out drinking around midnight with his buddies in a field in Texas.

Starkiss,

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I love driving, though, because I am behind the wheel.

I'm exact opposite, I sometimes fear driving cos I start to think, what if I all of a sudden drove off the cliff or did a u-turn on the freeway, and then I'll be petrified and afraid that if I can have the thought what's stopping me from actually doing it. I attribute it to Sun sq Uranus. Other things are similar, sometimes I'll be having a nice normal conversation and then wonder how they'd react if I took off all my clothes and poured mustard over myself or something, then the rest of the convo I'm there thinking, omg, I better not see a jar of mustard.

PA,

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When I was 7 I woke up during an operation so I think a mistrust there is understandable.

No way never!

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Ami Ann
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posted September 02, 2010 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lonake

Well, my guitar teacher is so sensitive to "strange" things like the hair in the bathroom sort of things.

If he even tastes a hint of baking soda in food, he gets sick.
He has Venus in Virgo.


Ami
PS I had to think of you guys cuz I saw a spider in my bathroom.
I have been bitten by a brown recluse but I am not afraid of spiders, per se.
Don't be jealous. I have my fair share of phobias

I looked up this spider and it was not poisonous, thank Goodness lol

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Lonake
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posted September 02, 2010 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,
I have Moon & Venus in Virgo's house, plus my H6 ruler is Saturn in H3 (of warped thinking) square to both of them.
My mind definitely does me in on occasion.

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Ami Ann
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posted September 02, 2010 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
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My mind definitely does me in on occasion.



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starkiss1
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posted September 02, 2010 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
" I'll be having a nice normal conversation and then wonder how they'd react if I took off all my clothes and poured mustard over myself or something, then the rest of the convo I'm there thinking, omg, I better not see a jar of mustard."

Lonake, I couldn't resist, sorry!


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