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Nephthys
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posted August 26, 2010 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
What aspects / signs influence our phobias?

Please share your phobia and signs / aspects.

My only fear is of heights. I get feel very uncomfortable, feel dizzy, insecure, butterflies, can't stand looking down.......just don't like being up high off the ground at all. Even a few feet.....

Since I don't know what aspects or signs influence them, I will start with giving my basics until you guys tell me

Sun, Venus in Taurus 1st
Moon in Aries 1st
Asc in Aries
Jupiter in Gemini 2nd
Mars, Uranus, Pluto in Virgo 6th
Libra Dsc
Neptune in Libra in 7th
Saturn in Pisces in 12th
Mercury in Aries in 12th

Is it my Saturn? My Mars, Uranus, Pluto (6th) all oppose my Saturn (12th) .......

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posted August 26, 2010 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Heights = Or is it the fact that I have very little air and I am very grounded with so much Earth?

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posted August 26, 2010 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
I get dizzy when I think of my health and I will faint or have a black out if I think something is wrong with me; no matter how small the matter.

I have Mars in the 6th house.

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posted August 26, 2010 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
We should have a poll for the weirdest phobia.
I have a weird one .
Ok--I have such a bad fear of throwing up--morbidly bad lol


Ami
PS I am not sure what would be the astrological reason? lol


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posted August 26, 2010 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
My first phobia was of the dark. I needed to sleep with a light on (and I still have that habit of leaving some sort of light on). I also developed a fear of spiders at some point, in England. (Fear mostly cured - I still don't like the poisonous ones.)

Thunderstorm phobia, developed thanks to my grandmother, and some dangerous storms - cured after moving over here, dealing with gentle storms in California, and then the huge ones here in Ohio (including tornado warnings). For the most part, I love storms.

Social Phobia - developed thanks to PTSD, my grandmother and certain treatment experienced over and over again. Still deal with it to a degree, although I don't see myself as any less than anyone else. I found my backbone. Agoraphobia, now cured, developed after the PTSD and SP.

I don't know about natal aspects - I suppose Mercury, Jupiter and Pluto being squared by Saturn, could ensure that anxiety sticks around. Chiron conjunct Mercury and Sun in the 6th (sense of self being affected).

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posted August 26, 2010 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
U kno wht, I cant throw up in toilets! I just cant!

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posted August 26, 2010 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
Nephthys, my Saggie mother has a fear of heights.

Ami, I actually think emetophobia is one of the more accepted phobias, just seen as something nasty that nobody likes to do.

Oh. I forgot (welcome to my weirdness): I also dealt with some OCD when I was agoraphobic. it's like the one phobia spawned a few others. I got over that one, around the same time as the agoraphobia.

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posted August 26, 2010 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message
i think your fear of heights is all that stuff you have in virgo, nephthys. i dont have ANYTHING in virgo and i dont have any kind of phobia and from what i know about virgos is they are notorious for being practically obsessed with desease and such. so i really think its that virgo-ness you have

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posted August 26, 2010 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
nep...

as soon as i read ur very first post i thought fear of heights=inability to distance / detach yourself from situations/ inability to be objective=lack of air

whatever sign/house saturn is in, i find that guilt fear and shame are associated with that issue. so saturn in pisces would make you fear losing yourself in the vastness of existance...maybe idk.

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posted August 26, 2010 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
actually Saturn is the planet associated with the ears including the inner ear whose main function is equilibrium

phobias can be caused by an inner ear disturbance

they don't have to be psychological in origin
but inner ear disturbances often are mistook for psychological problems


Dr. Harold N. Levinson wrote about them. I have 2 of his books where he talks about phobias. I don't have his book mainly on phobias though.

http://www.dyslexiaonline.com/information/phobias.html

I had always phobias that had to do with speaking in front of people (because of my speech problems) and doing things that require use of motor skills in front of people (because of coordination problems)

I don't like flying nor escalators either

I don't like crowds either

I was diagnosed as having an inner ear problem by him too.

I have a lot of hard Saturn aspects
oppose Neptune
oppose Jupiter
square Moon
quincunx Sun
contraparallel Mercury
contraparallel Venus
contraparallel Neptune


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posted August 27, 2010 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dinobleue     Edit/Delete Message
I can be quite the hypochondriac. I don't really see it but my family always tells me I am. I'm health obsessed and usually have something I need to cure holistically or cleanse from or something ...I have a 6th House stellium.

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posted August 27, 2010 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
shrugs

but the thing is that it can go either way

a strong 6th house could indicate a hypochondriac

but on the other hand, it could also indicate strong emphasis on health problems


also a strong 6th house could also indicate psychomatic problems, and that's not the same as being hypochondriac


I have Moon in Pisces in 6th and Mars in Aquarius in Aquarius in 6th

I am prone to psychomatic problems myself.
For example,the muscles of my shoulders and neck would be very tense because of stress. I experienced a lot of that when I was out to sea in the navy which was a stressful time. Sea periods can last up to 60 days.
The day that I got dumped by my exgf Meghann, I had so much stomach upset that I had diarrhea.

Of course, I had emotional health problems like depression,anxiety and that would fit with my Moon being in 6th house too.

Moon is also associated with the mother, and my mom has history of health problems. She has serious health problems,and she depends on me for support.

A lot of people have health problems that are very vague like Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or Fibroymalgia or Dysautonomia or Vestibular Disorders (Inner ear problems) and,and they get accused of being hypochrondriacs. I have a friend that has Lupus. Before she was diagnosed, they thought it was all in her head and that she was being lazy. That's really messed up.

Another thing too....There is such thing as comorbidity, having more than one condition. Often times, a person will tell a person that they have more than one condition, then they get accused of being a hypochondriac with the thinking that a person can't have all these conditions.


There is possibility that you can get more clues about health problems by looking at the placement of asteroid Hygeia and its aspects in the chart. Maybe even its midpoints. I have Sun conjunct Neptune/Hygeia midpoint with only 1 minute of arc. Interestingly, my biological fellow Pisces Moon father had Hygeia in Pisces oppose stationary retrograde Neptune in Virgo. Hygeia is named after the Greek Goddess of Health, daughter of Asclepius who was Greek God of Medicine and son of Apollo,Greek God of Healing.

Even though Hygeia is an asteroid, it's not a typical one. It's the 4th largest asteroid after Ceres,Pallas,and Vesta. It has a diameter of 466 km, and that's larger than Chiron which gets treated like a planet by quite a few astrologers including by the Magi Astrologers even though its diameter is less than 300 km in diameter. Chiron even gets suggested rulership over Virgo. There is no consideration for Hygeia which is larger than Chiron.

I definitely believe that Hygeia is a highly underrated object in Astrology.

BTW, when astronomers considered a new proposal to add more objects classifed as planets, Hygeia was one of the objects considered.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10_Hygeia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygeia
http://www.thegalaxyexpress.com/index.php?pr=Chiron_and_Hygeia


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posted August 27, 2010 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
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i think your fear of heights is all that stuff you have in virgo, nephthys
Agreed, lots of earth, very little air, I have only Neptune in Air, in a hemisphere by itself.

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actually Saturn is the planet associated with the ears including the inner ear whose main function is equilibrium
phobias can be caused by an inner ear disturbance

they don't have to be psychological in origin
but inner ear disturbances often are mistook for psychological problems


EQUILIBRIUM!!! This makes a lot of sense for me, since my Saturn (restriction) in Pisces (sensitivity) in 12th (hidden) opposes my 6th house Stellium in VIRGO (Mars,Uranus,Pluto)

Wow, thanks for confirming it for me, everyone! As I suspected, but you guys clarified the reasoning!!!

Teasel, when I was little I was afraid of the dark but now I cannot sleep with any lights on, or any lights creeping into my bedroom at all, I prefer dark bedrooms for sleeping.

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posted August 27, 2010 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
Fear of heights here too.

Maybe it's my Saturn 1HR (7) square Uranus 1Hco-R (9)?

ETA: oh and I am a Taurus too

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posted August 27, 2010 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
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The Rulership Book by Rex E. Bills says that fears - and even ailments caused by fear - are indicated by Saturn and also by Neptune and the twelfth house (and partly the eighth house), panic by Uranus and partly by Saturn. Terror belongs to Saturn and terroristic activities to Pluto. The only significator of fearlessness is Mars...

For instance, according to astrologer Noel Tyl fear is suggested by any planets in opposition or square to the Moon or Saturn; by the planets within and ruling House XII; and by the planets afflicting the Sun, and anxiety by square and opposition aspects, or conjunctions of Uranus and the Sun or Mercury, especially in Mutable Signs. Also T Square without outlet can signify anxiety, says Tyl. This list alone offers so many possibilities that you could ask: Is there anyone without a couple of fear significators?

C.E.O. Carter says that morbid fears (phobias) - "irrational fears or aversions" - are of great interest to astrologers, although they may not have yet received all the attention they deserve. According to Carter morbid fears (phobias) might be basically indicated by Neptunian afflictions to those portions of the chart that reflect health (the three hylegiacal points, the 6th house and the 8th house). Water might be emphasized, and also Gemini and the 3rd house because of their mental relation.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/neptunia/essays/fearx1.htm

UNEXPLAINED CHRONIC PHOBIAS-INAPPROPRIATE FEARS
In my humble opinion, the best indicator of how deeply you are now being effected by your past lives is found when you get the results of our exclusive "Past Life Profile". Your profile will tell you where and how deeply you are effected by past life problems - physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually.
A fear or a phobia can be classified as "inappropriate" when the situation triggering the fear or the phobia in fact poses no imminent threat, no forseeable danger, or no actual risk of harm to the individual. Like chronic pain, chronic phobias arising from past life trauma can be very resistant to present day treatments. If the fear is buried in the past, then it is the most quickly healed by going back to the past. Often confronting the fear or phobia is enough just to send it away.
http://www.itimes.com/public/people/shrianandsoni/blog/Top-Ten-Indicators-of-SERIOUS-Past-Life-Problems


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posted August 27, 2010 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, Peri!!! Cool

Anothing interesting thing: they say when you are younger you reflect more of your Rising Sign (Aries, for myself).........and as you get older, you "become" more of your Sun Sign (Taurus, myself)..

And when I was younger, I used to love to go to fairs and ride the Zipper and the Rock-O-Plane......although I would get terrible butterlies on a simple ferris wheel.......

and now, I have NO DESIRE to go on rides at all...........NONE. The idea repulses me. the only ride I would like would be some ride that is in a boat going slowly along..........LOL Like Pirates of the Carribean I guess.......

And of course riding a Carousel is a big deal to me, ever since I was little.......

I can't handle a ferris wheel at all........

I also can't handle spinning rides at all........even couldn't when I was little......

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posted August 27, 2010 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
The following is from

A CEREBELLAR-VESTIBULAR EXPLANATION
FOR FEARS/PHOBIAS: HYPOTHESIS AND STUDY
HAROLD N. LEVINSON http://www.levinsonmedical.com/evidence/papers/cv_predis_anxiety.pdf

anxiety and panic is listed under the cognitive symptoms of vestibular disorder

it's from Vestibular Disorders Association site http://www.vestibular.org/vestibular-disorders/symptoms.php


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posted August 27, 2010 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
It is really weird, Nephthys, I developed fear of heights when I was 21, we were having a ride on a ferris wheel and when we got to the top, I suddenly realized I am terrified of heights, this had never happened before. Since that I am afraid of heights although I don't have any problems when I have to go somewhere by plane.

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the one thats considered legittimate: trypophobia, which is a fear of unorganized clusters of holes or particles (look it up if you're still confused). Examples: I literally get goosebumps and start itching when I see microscope pictures of bacteria/virus/whatever microbes and certain kinds of pods. And Beehives make me want to peel off my own skin sometimes. I strongly believe its genetic because my sister and 3 or 4 other close relatives have it too.


I have no time to look at my cousins but the placements my sister and I share in common are:

Water Sun (me-Cancer, her-Pisces)
Mercurial Moon (me-Virgo, her-Gemini)
5th house Mutable Venus (me-Gemini, her-Pisces)

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posted August 27, 2010 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Dr. Harold N. Levinson that phobias,anxiety,fears can stem from a vestibular problems

I also have an alternative viewpoint in regards to that.

He seems to think that cerebellar-vestibular problems result in ultrasensitivity which some say are sensory integration issues.


My alternative view:

I believe that cerebellar-vestibular dysfunction can be in synchronicity
with ultrasensitivity and not just cause and effect. It could be one of those " what came first....the chicken or the egg" I believe that it's possible that the ultrasensitive person is so sensitive to sensory input to the point that the cerebellar vestibular system is overwhelmed which results in disorientation/confusion. Therefore, cerebellar vestibular problems could actually be the result of ultrasensitivity.

I wonder if there is a high correlation between people that have fears,phobias,anxiety and people that are metaphysically oriented.


If people are extremely sensitive to sensory input, then it would make sense that they could be extremely sensitive to energy in general to the point of being metaphysically sensitive.

Therefore,extreme sensitivity to sensory input,vestibular problems, phobias/fears/anxiety,and metaphysical experiences could all be connected to each other.


Of course, metaphysical experiences aren't recognized by psychiatry community. Therefore, people with metaphysical experiences would be diagnosed as having schizophrenia.

There are studies that show that schizophrenics often have vestibular dysfunction. Of course, schizophrenics often have problems with anxieties,fears,and phobias. However, not all people with anxieties,fears,and phobias have schizophrenia. Anxiety disorders and phobiras often occur with out schizophrenia,but they often get misdiagnosed as schizophrenia. http://schizophreniabulletin.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/9/3/383.pdf


It makes sense that Neptune and even the big objects that orbit beyond Neptune (Pluto,Eris,Makemake,Haumea,Quaoar,Orcus,Varuna,Ixion, and especially Sedna) could factor in phobias because of their metaphysical natures.


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posted August 27, 2010 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Peri, I think that is about the age I noticed it too...........the double ferris wheel especially kills me Holy geez.

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the ultrasensitive person is so sensitive to sensory input to the point that the cerebellar vestibular system is overwhelmed which results in disorientation/confusion
This makes a lot of sense and makes me think of my dog and how she reacts to her fears:

I wish I could get the true natal on my dog, I know her birth date and place, just not the time......She is an Aries, an English Springer Spaniel.......... April 17, 2003 born in Dixon, CA
She is terrified of thunder.......it is a nightmare in the house dealing with her when there is thunder.........She is also terrified of fireworks......firecrackers.... I got her tranquilizers and I have to give her 2 and they don't work 100%.
She is also scared of any object that she doesn't know what it is...........for example a plastic shaped ice cream cone that is a little kids' bubble maker/blower....... the first time she saw it her eyes bulged out and she ran and hid in my bedroom

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posted August 27, 2010 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Benedict, that is very interesting.

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posted August 27, 2010 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
yeah

I am ultrasensitive person and that includes extremely sensitive in all my basic senses in regards to sight,touch,sound,taste. I am not as sensitive as a person with autistic spectrum though.
I have numerous phobias include some that can be argued to be stemmed from experience but can easily be motion-related. If equilibrium is off, then sensory impressions can be off. The inner ear works as fine tuner when it comes to sending messages from the brain to the body. Fears,phobias,and anxiety could even result from issues with sympathetic system which is responsible for "flight or fight." Maybe problems with the inner ear regulating messages to the sympathetic nervous system.
I don't like people up and close to me in my physical space, I can get jumpy. I get jumpy when people touch me. There is sign of me of overreacting in fear or flight response. I think that is also involved with my issues with eye contact with others.
I was diagnosed as having cerebellar vestibular dysfunction.

I am not going to get into the metaphysical stuff for it's very private. As long as psychiatry exists, I'd keep any metaphysical experiences to myself.

I was misdiagnosed as having bipolar w/ schizoaffective disorder because of my speech irregularities which are actually the result of coordination issues.
Schizophrenia is not just about hallucinations nor paranoia. It can also be about disorganization. Therefore,there is a type of disorganized type of schizophrenia. It can occur without hallucinations.

I even believe that a lot of disorganized schizophrenics are people with vestibular problems that are misdiagnosed. Of course,studies show that many schizophrenics have vestibular dysfunction. Therefore, my suspicions aren't far-fetched.

In psychiatry,schizoaffective disorder is a diagnosis used for people that have schizophrenic features but also have a mood disorder.


I do have a very strong Neptune influence and I am very strong in the influences of the objects beyond Neptune.

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posted August 27, 2010 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I never gave enough though to how important the houses were in a stellium.
I am just starting to understand HOW the houses function in the chart as far as expressing the planets in a particular sphere of life.

Thanks for your info on the 6th house,Raymond and everyone who shared about the 6th house.


I can only relate it to my 8th house which drives me to heal the planets in it by unearthing them.

The 8th house is the house of unearthing taboos so I seem to have no choice but to strive to do that lol

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posted August 27, 2010 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
"The one thats considered legittimate: trypophobia, which is a fear of unorganized clusters of holes or particles (look it up if you're still confused). Examples: I literally get goosebumps and start itching when I see microscope pictures of bacteria/virus/whatever microbes and certain kinds of pods. And Beehives make me want to peel off my own skin sometimes. I strongly believe its genetic because my sister and 3 or 4 other close relatives have it too."


This reminds me somewhat of Morgellons.

Morgellons (also called Morgellons disease or Morgellons syndrome), is a name given in 2002 by Mary Leitao[1] to a proposed condition referred to by the Centers for Disease Control as unexplained dermopathy and characterized by a range of cutaneous (skin) symptoms including crawling, biting, and stinging sensations; finding fibers on or under the skin; and persistent skin lesions (e.g., rashes or sores). Current scientific consensus holds that Morgellons is not a new disorder and is instead a new and misleading name for a well known condition. Most doctors,[2] including dermatologists[3] and psychiatrists,[4] regard Morgellons as a manifestation of known medical conditions, including delusional parasitosis.[5][6][7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgellons


There are even conspiracy theories about it like nano-technology or genetic modification.

Morgellons Watch
Resources for Morgellons investigators. Skeptical analysis and discussion. http://morgellonswatch.com/index.html

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