posted October 03, 2010 05:59 PM            

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So, look what sign your 1st house is in.
(my chart: Sagittarius).

Check what planet rules that sign
(my chart: Jupiter = so Jupiter is the ruler of the 1st house).

All aspects Jupiter has to other planets will effect the 1st house big time

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DD---I am gonna ask you some questions. I am sorry if I am a pain. Don't answer if you don't want

OK - Pluto rules my 1st house. Pluto conjuncts the MC.
So--MY physical person, me(which IS the first house's domain) goes out in to society, cares about society, is an outward looking person.

Pluto sextiles Mercury and the Sun in the 8th house with Gemini on the cusp.
SOOO---*I* am interested in taboo things and so with Gemini as the 8th house ruler--would want to express them --TO society/others.

Pluto trines NN which shows I can reach my goals.

How does that sound? Sorry ,if I am repeating myself at various places.
I am trying to hone it down and this part is hard.

posted October 03, 2010 06:13 PM            

2nd house has Sag on the cusp.
Jupiter is in the 9th house conjunct Uranus.Does this show I could get good financial things ,suddenly?

3rd house
Cap is on the cusp.
Saturn is in the 1st.
Would this show I had restrictions in 3rd house things and this effected my physical person(1st house)
My childhood(3rd house) was restricted(Saturn) .My mind (3rd house) shut off from learning(3rd house).
Early life(3rd house) was hard

4th house---Aqua on the cusp
My home life was cold and detached(Aqua)
Uranus is in the 9th.
There was a lot of emphasis on higher education(9th house)

Uranus conjuncts Jupiter. I had a lot of educational opportunites.
I found God in a good(Jupiter) and unexpected(Uranus) way , different than my upbringing.

5th house
I did that before--somewhere

6th house--Aries is on the cusp
Mars is in Cancer in the 9th house
Could this mean I would work in 9th house activities like religious ,philosophical pursuits?

As far as health--would I have Cancer health issues like stomach aches etc?
Is THIS the correct line of thinking?
It seems very subjective as to the conclusions which are drawn. Is it?

posted October 03, 2010 07:53 PM            

I have Pisces on the 5th house cusp. Neptune is in the 12th house.

I don't take 5th house activities lightly They are meaningful to me(Neptune in the 12th /mystical experiences)
Some people could have sex in a non meaningful relationship but I could not.
Creativity is a way to touch the mystical, too, for me, a way to get beyond the boundaries of this body(Neptune)

OK--Now comes the hard part.Neptune trines my Sun and Mercury in the 8th.

Neptune--the ruler of the 5th house trines Mercury the ruler of the 8th house.

So--does it mean the 5th house activities are deep to me?
Neptune trines the Sun, the ruler of the 10th house.
Does that mean that 5th house activities are meaningful in a societal way(10th house)

Does it mean that sex, for example, would have to have 8th house depth and be OK in a societal sense ,such as committed relationship

If so, that is right

Are my interpretations correct here ?

posted October 04, 2010 01:18 AM            

I have to come back later to your questions, when I have more time.
another working day is just about to start.

Lara,

posted October 04, 2010 01:50 AM            

I'll be back to comment on my rulers. But until then, I wanted to mention something else that's interesting.

If you use midpoints, take your midpoints & convert them to house rulers.

For example, I have
Pluto = Sun/Moon

Pluto - rules my 1st
Sun - rules my 10th
Moon - rules my 9th

So this becomes...
1st = 10th/9th

Some others I have are...

1st = 5th/9th
1st = 5th/8th
1st = 5th/11th

2nd = 3rd/9th
2nd = Asc/7th
2nd = Asc/12th

3rd = 1st/NN

5th = 7th/8th
5th = 7th/11th
5th = 8th/12th
5th = 11th/12th

6th = 5th/11th

9th = MC/NN

10th = 1st/3rd
MC = 2nd/12th
MC = 2nd/7th

11th = 2nd/MC
11th = Asc/10th

These really fit!

posted October 04, 2010 05:45 AM            

DD---I wish I could speak to you in Latin

posted October 04, 2010 07:10 AM            

Jane,

posted October 04, 2010 07:24 AM            

1st= 8th/MC (-11)
1st=3rd/NN

2nd=MC/3rd (1-13)

3rd=8th/2nd (-40)
3rd=8th/MC (1-05)
3rd=2nd/3rd (-47)
3rd=NN/ASC (1-21)

4th=6th/3rd(1-26)
4th=5th/3rd (1-26)
4th=10th/3rd (1-26)

5th= 9th/2nd (-19)
5th=7th/2nd (-07)
5th=1st/3rd (-10)
5th=11th/MC (54)
5th=12th / MC 8-54)

6th= 9th/2nd (-19)
6th=7th/2nd (-07)
6th=1st/3rd (-10)
6th=11th/MC (54)
6th=12th / MC 8-54)

7th=8th/3rd (-49)
7th=4th/2nd (1-01)
7th=1st/11th (-06)
7th=1st/12th (-06)

8th=9th/11th (-24)
8th=9th/12nd (-24)
8th=7nd /11th (-02)
8th=7nd / 12th (-02)
8th=4th/3rd (1-10)

9th=4th/2nd (-42)
9th=1nd/11th (-42)
9th=1st/12th (-42)
9th=2nd/ASC (1-03)

10th= 9th/2nd (-19)
10th=7th/2nd (-07)
10th=1st/3rd (-10)
10th=11th/MC (54)
10th=12th / MC (-54)

ASC=4th/3rd (-32)
ASC=4th/NN (-39)

MC=9th/2nd (1-29)
MC=7th/2nd (1-02)
MC=1st/3rd (1-19)

posted October 04, 2010 07:28 AM            

seems we only have one midpoint picture in common.

10th=1st/3rd

posted October 04, 2010 08:34 AM            

This is what I mean.If Cap was on the 3rd house cusp and Saturn were on the 1st,as I have, that could mean trouble with early education, siblings, communication etc.

You have a host of possibilities for each part of it.

You really don't KNOW until you ask someone what they went through.

posted October 04, 2010 08:47 AM            

The mutable houses are houses that are "spreading" (info`s in most cases), they share, they get into contact with their surroundings.
What they are spreading depends on the cardinal house which starts the quadrant. In this case it is the physical quadrant, so 3rd ouse is the "spread out" of your very essential instinctual qualities. It`s an instinctive expression of your Self (1st house), which becomes obvious to your surroundings.

how are you spreading yourself?
Well usually by means of communication.
Who is receiving your first attempts at communication? Well, usually it willb e your brothers and sisters and close environment.

posted October 04, 2010 08:51 AM            

fixed houses:
the MANIFESTATION of the seed, the expression (for yourself mostly)

posted October 04, 2010 11:24 AM            

"OK - Pluto rules my 1st house. Pluto conjuncts the MC.
So--MY physical person, me(which IS the first house's domain) goes out in to society, cares about society, is an outward looking person."

"Pluto sextiles Mercury and the Sun in the 8th house with Gemini on the cusp.
SOOO---*I* am interested in taboo things"
Yes.

" and so with Gemini as the 8th house ruler--would want to express them --TO society/others."
Is the 8th house ruler aspecting MC or MC-ruler?

posted October 04, 2010 11:35 AM            

"2nd house has Sag on the cusp.
Jupiter is in the 9th house conjunct Uranus.Does this show I could get good financial things ,suddenly?"
It`s possible. But it is also possible that you lose financial security suddenly. There is something unstable, unpredictable about your financial status as well as feelings of selfvalue.
There seems to be a pull towards philosophy / religion or foreigners. Maybe you could earn money abroad or in these fields.
Psychologically the forming of your own lifeperspective / philosophy (9th house) serves the function to create a feeling of selfvalue (2nd house).

"3rd house
Cap is on the cusp.
Saturn is in the 1st.
Would this show I had restrictions in 3rd house things and this effected my physical person(1st house)
My childhood(3rd house) was restricted(Saturn) .My mind (3rd house) shut off from learning(3rd house).
Early life(3rd house) was hard"
Could be.

But I would use a different approach first.
There is NO judgement associated with houserulers, so it doesn´t really matter if it is Saturn or Venus (of course there is a qualitative difference in expression though).

Anyway ruler of 3rd house in 1st house indicates a person whose communication serves the function to get to know themselves better. The way they are doing it is indicated by the ruler planet. In this case it is Saturn.
So you might be very persistent, focused and thorough in all matters surrounding communication and Self.
Only if there are really tensed aspects to Saturn it might also have the effect of the person feeling inadequate and restricted in terms of communication and Self.

"4th house---Aqua on the cusp
My home life was cold and detached(Aqua)
Uranus is in the 9th.
There was a lot of emphasis on higher education(9th house)"
Makes sense.
It might also be that your true home is abroad.

"h house--Aries is on the cusp
Mars is in Cancer in the 9th house
Could this mean I would work in 9th house activities like religious ,philosophical pursuits?"
Yes.

"As far as health--would I have Cancer health issues like stomach aches etc?"
Could be.

"It seems very subjective as to the conclusions which are drawn. Is it?"
Not really.
There is of course a range of interpretation, several possibilities, but ONLY within the range of expressions of the combined symbols.
It is not arbitrary though.

For example:
5th house can have many interpretations, like love, creativity, children, sex, entertainment and so on, but it could NOT mean (on its own) health issues, job, money, etc.

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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.

posted October 04, 2010 11:35 AM            

"2nd house has Sag on the cusp.
Jupiter is in the 9th house conjunct Uranus.Does this show I could get good financial things ,suddenly?"
It`s possible. But it is also possible that you lose financial security suddenly. There is something unstable, unpredictable about your financial status as well as feelings of selfvalue.
There seems to be a pull towards philosophy / religion or foreigners. Maybe you could earn money abroad or in these fields.
Psychologically the forming of your own lifeperspective / philosophy (9th house) serves the function to create a feeling of selfvalue (2nd house).

"3rd house
Cap is on the cusp.
Saturn is in the 1st.
Would this show I had restrictions in 3rd house things and this effected my physical person(1st house)
My childhood(3rd house) was restricted(Saturn) .My mind (3rd house) shut off from learning(3rd house).
Early life(3rd house) was hard"
Could be.

But I would use a different approach first.
There is NO judgement associated with houserulers, so it doesn´t really matter if it is Saturn or Venus (of course there is a qualitative difference in expression though).

Anyway ruler of 3rd house in 1st house indicates a person whose communication serves the function to get to know themselves better. The way they are doing it is indicated by the ruler planet. In this case it is Saturn.
So you might be very persistent, focused and thorough in all matters surrounding communication and Self.
Only if there are really tensed aspects to Saturn it might also have the effect of the person feeling inadequate and restricted in terms of communication and Self.

"4th house---Aqua on the cusp
My home life was cold and detached(Aqua)
Uranus is in the 9th.
There was a lot of emphasis on higher education(9th house)"
Makes sense.
It might also be that your true home is abroad.

"h house--Aries is on the cusp
Mars is in Cancer in the 9th house
Could this mean I would work in 9th house activities like religious ,philosophical pursuits?"
Yes.

"As far as health--would I have Cancer health issues like stomach aches etc?"
Could be.

"It seems very subjective as to the conclusions which are drawn. Is it?"
Not really.
There is of course a range of interpretation, several possibilities, but ONLY within the range of expressions of the combined symbols.
It is not arbitrary though.

For example:
5th house can have many interpretations, like love, creativity, children, sex, entertainment and so on, but it could NOT mean (on its own) health issues, job, money, etc.

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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.