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Topic: House rulerships - with your own interpretations
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7057 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 04, 2010 11:36 AM
Ami,"2nd house has Sag on the cusp. Jupiter is in the 9th house conjunct Uranus.Does this show I could get good financial things ,suddenly?" It`s possible. But it is also possible that you lose financial security suddenly. There is something unstable, unpredictable about your financial status as well as feelings of selfvalue. There seems to be a pull towards philosophy / religion or foreigners. Maybe you could earn money abroad or in these fields. Psychologically the forming of your own lifeperspective / philosophy (9th house) serves the function to create a feeling of selfvalue (2nd house). "3rd house Cap is on the cusp. Saturn is in the 1st. Would this show I had restrictions in 3rd house things and this effected my physical person(1st house) My childhood(3rd house) was restricted(Saturn) .My mind (3rd house) shut off from learning(3rd house). Early life(3rd house) was hard" Could be.
But I would use a different approach first. There is NO judgement associated with houserulers, so it doesn´t really matter if it is Saturn or Venus (of course there is a qualitative difference in expression though). Anyway ruler of 3rd house in 1st house indicates a person whose communication serves the function to get to know themselves better. The way they are doing it is indicated by the ruler planet. In this case it is Saturn. So you might be very persistent, focused and thorough in all matters surrounding communication and Self. Only if there are really tensed aspects to Saturn it might also have the effect of the person feeling inadequate and restricted in terms of communication and Self. "4th house---Aqua on the cusp My home life was cold and detached(Aqua) Uranus is in the 9th. There was a lot of emphasis on higher education(9th house)" Makes sense. It might also be that your true home is abroad. "h house--Aries is on the cusp Mars is in Cancer in the 9th house Could this mean I would work in 9th house activities like religious ,philosophical pursuits?" Yes. "As far as health--would I have Cancer health issues like stomach aches etc?" Could be. "It seems very subjective as to the conclusions which are drawn. Is it?" Not really. There is of course a range of interpretation, several possibilities, but ONLY within the range of expressions of the combined symbols. It is not arbitrary though. For example: 5th house can have many interpretations, like love, creativity, children, sex, entertainment and so on, but it could NOT mean (on its own) health issues, job, money, etc. Basic interpretation of 5th house is "expression / manifestation of emotional Self"
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11153 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 04, 2010 11:58 AM
THANK YOU DDYou are so good That 2nd and 9th house one is so correct--like clockwork. ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11153 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 04, 2010 12:21 PM
Ami, "OK - Pluto rules my 1st house. Pluto conjuncts the MC. So--MY physical person, me(which IS the first house's domain) goes out in to society, cares about society, is an outward looking person."
quote: "Pluto sextiles Mercury and the Sun in the 8th house with Gemini on the cusp. SOOO---*I* am interested in taboo things" Yes." and so with Gemini as the 8th house ruler--would want to express them --TO society/others." Is the 8th house ruler aspecting MC or MC-ruler
Yes, DD, Mercury, the 8th house ruler sextiles the MC. My Gemini Sun IN the 8th house sextiles the MC, too. Thank you again,DD, for your time and effort . I bought the books Lonake suggested so ,hopefully, they will help me get to the next step ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
venus in gemini Knowflake Posts: 883 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 04, 2010 01:37 PM
Okay, this thread is forcing me to learn House Rulers! Tell me if I did this correctly? And then I will go back and try to interpret them.This is my guy's chart, because I'm always trying to understand him. 1H cusp-Aries; ruler is Mars; Mars in his 12th house 2H cusp-Taurus; ruler is Venus; Venus in his 3rd house 3H cusp-Gemini; ruler is Mercury; Mercury in his 3rd 4H cusp-Cancer; ruler is Moon; Moon in his 10th house 5H cusp-Cancer; ruler is Moon; Moon in his 10th house 6H cusp-Leo, ruler is Sun; Sun in his 4th house 7H cusp-Libra; ruler is Venus, Venus in his 3rd house 8H cusp-Scorpio, ruler is Pluto; Pluto in his 6th house 9H cusp-Sag, ruler is Jupiter; Jupter in his 6th house 10H cusp-Capricorn, ruler is Saturn; Saturn in his 8th house 11H cusp-Capricorn, ruler is Saturn; Saturn in his 8th house 12H cusp-Aquarius, ruler is Uranus; Uranus in his 5th house Or is his 12th house co-ruled by Uranus and Saturn? Does that mean his 5th house is co-ruled by them also? I'm a little confused about co-rulers, and intercepted houses. I'm never sure what rules, the house ruler, or the planet? Because Neptune is in his 7th house, ruled by Pisces. So does Venus rule or Pisces rule the 7th? IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 4152 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 05, 2010 02:27 AM
quote: Or is his 12th house co-ruled by Uranus and Saturn?
No, you did it right for the 12th quote: I'm never sure what rules, the house ruler, or the planet?
It's the planet that rules the sign that's on the cusp. For intercepted signs, their ruler would be a co-ruler of that house. Co-ruler has markedly less importance than the main ruler. quote: So does Venus rule or Pisces rule the 7th?
Venus rules the 7th as Libra is on the cusp of the 7th. Venus rules Libra. Neptune in his 7th would be an important factor in his relationships. Especially if it conjoins another planet in the 7th or squares another planet from the 7th. But Neptune is not the ruler of the 7th unless Pisces is on the 7th house cusp.
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bonadea33 Knowflake Posts: 903 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted October 05, 2010 07:07 AM
I will be very short:Ruler of my ASC (1st house), Venus in 8th, Ruler of 2nd, Pluto in 10th, Ruler of 3rd, Jupiter in the 1st, Ruler of 4th, Saturn in 10th, Ruler of 5th, Uranus in 9th, Ruler of 6th, Neptune in 12th, Ruler of 7th, Mars in 10th, Ruler of 8th, Venus in 8th, Ruler of 9th, Mercury in 6th, Ruler of 10th, the Moon in 5th, Ruler of 11th, the Sun in 7th, Ruler of 12th, Mercury in 6th. I don't like my 6th and 12th house (change of rulerships). Bobbie ------------------ Even the stone you trip on is part of your destiny. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11153 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 05, 2010 09:24 AM
OK, I am gonna think out loud with what DD has told me.IF someone has a planet in the first house, THAT planet brings the areas the house rules in to the first house. IOW, I have Saturn in the 1st house. Cap rules the 3rd house (communication house) so to me communication is very important. Mars in Cancer(in the 9th house) trines Saturn so I am helped in my ability to communicate by Mars in a trine. Please-anyone--share on JUST this one part of your chart so I can get it, if you would.
Please share on planets in the first house, the houses the signs of THAT planet rule and HOW they are part of the essential you(first house) ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7057 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 05, 2010 09:29 AM
" Co-ruler has markedly less importance than the main ruler." Can`t agree to that from my own experience. Even though Pisces is intercepted in 3rd house, Neptune is very strong. And Jupiter in intercepted Pisces does not take a backseat either.
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Lara unregistered
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posted October 05, 2010 09:31 AM
Yes, i have pluto/uranus in the 1st house. Scorpio rules my IC and uranus rules my DC so relationships and my home life is very essential to how i feel in myself. I can't abide anything negative in both home or relationships and l close down like a clam and bury my head in the sand when arguing or negativity is in these areas. I have neptune cj IC so that makes me very sensitive to all of the above.IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7057 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 05, 2010 09:31 AM
I have a bombastic 1st house, you don´t really want to read the list. Sun, as ruler of 9th house, in 1st house conjunct Mercury mercury, as ruler of 7th house, in 1st house, conjunct Sun Venus, as ruler of 5th, 6th, 10th house, in 1st house, square Pluto Neptune, as ruler of 3rd house, in 1st house, conjunct Mars, NN, ASC and squaring Jupiter. I will think of interpretations later on. (so half of the other houses are leading into my First. lol) IP: Logged |
bonadea33 Knowflake Posts: 903 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted October 05, 2010 09:47 AM
Ami Anne,You should open new Thread with planets in the 1st. I have: Jupiter in the 1st trine Uranus in 9th, Jupiter square Saturn in 10th, Jupiter trine NN in 9th, Jupiter sextile SN in 3rd, Jupiter trine POF in 10/11th. That's it. It would be nice without Saturn there. Bobbie
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Lara unregistered
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posted October 05, 2010 09:55 AM
Oh i get it DD... so cos i have 2 planets in 1st and 1st ruler cj mercury, that must mean that, including all those aspects, my 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 10th, 11th and 12th houses are linked to my 1st ruler? Is that right?My 1st ruler is also my 12th ruler. Anyone know what that means please? I'm talking placidus here lol IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11153 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 05, 2010 09:55 AM
I just want to try to meditate on what everyone said --here-first--cuz this stuff is hard That is a great idea, Bobbie. You know what would be good--to break down this whole subject of house rulers in different threads . I am sure other people need to learn it just as I do. This is really hard stuff and must be taken .slowly, I think. Sending to you, Bobbie! ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11153 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 05, 2010 09:55 AM
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bonadea33 Knowflake Posts: 903 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted October 05, 2010 10:12 AM
Ami,You can't do that. To break all Thread. You can do so; 1st house and the ruler 2nd house and the ruler and so on until 12th house ruler. You can occupy all side of the Forum with 12 Threads. It would be funny. Don't do that but start with the 1st house. WL, B. p.s. I have read that you have a bit clairvoyance. Is that true? ------------------ Even the stone you trip on is part of your destiny. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11153 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 05, 2010 10:17 AM
I meant start with one thread, Bobbie. It is so hard to get that I have to get it bit by bit. I am psychic,Bobbie. Things come to me . I have to discern if it is my OWN thoughts or actual information from outside myself. I am better at doing that,now,cuz I am trying to discern the differences in how each feels.------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 4152 From: U.S. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 06, 2010 02:21 AM
Ami, I'd answer your Q, but cannot, as my 1st house is very "pure" with no planets inside, thank God, lol. I feel on display enough already as it is.DD, don't you have Jupiter in pisces in the 3rd? Or was it elsewhere.. If so, this makes sense for your Neptune/Mercury leanings. If not, I'd have to see your chart again, because I do remember something standing out regarding this in another thread I just dont remember the exact placement.aspect, but it is there. quote: And Jupiter in intercepted Pisces does not take a backseat either.
This I agree with. I've yet to see intercepted planets play a less meaningful, or more negative, role in natals as compared to non-intercepted. IP: Logged |
bonadea33 Knowflake Posts: 903 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted October 06, 2010 05:23 AM
Hier I didn't write all:------------------------------------------ Jupiter in the 1st trine Uranus in 9th, Jupiter square Saturn in 10th, Jupiter trine NN in 9th, Jupiter sextile SN in 3rd, Jupiter trine POF in 10/11th. ------------------------------------------ Chiron in the 1st: Chiron conjunction ASC Chiron conjunction Jupiter Chiron conjunction Juno (Chiron - healer; Juno - the person I need = doctor?) Chiron trine Uranus Chiron opposition Mercury Chiron square Saturn Juno in the 1st (the only important Asteroid for me). Juno conjunction ASC Juno conjunction Jupiter Juno trine Uranus ((9th) Juno trine NN (9th) Juno square Saturn (10th) Jupiter conjunction ASC. 2nd house, my money: Ruler of 2nd is Pluto in 10th. Pluto conjunction Mars Pluto sextile Neptune (12th) Pluto square Sun (7th) Pluto trine Mercury (6th) Pluto sextile ASC. Now, why I have earned money in abroad or in tourism (both belong to the 9th)? I get Pluto sextile Uranus (9th). It is too wide orb for sextile here. In my 2nd house (end of Scorpio) is Lilith: Lilith opposition Venus (8th) Lilith trine Mars (10th). It looks like Lilith "eats" my money. Bobbie
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 11153 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 06, 2010 09:30 AM
OK Planets in the First "color" the person. I think you could say that. Then, you see WHICH house that planet came from. The affairs of THAT house WILL color the person, too. OK---Is this the START? Can people talk about this ONE small part?
I need to take this subject miniscule bite by bite
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7057 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 08, 2011 03:53 PM
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VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 1086 From: Saturn's Punishment Room ;) Registered: Aug 2010
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posted June 09, 2011 04:15 PM
H3R->H8 : blasé H2R->H2 : strong desires,good self-esteem H1R->H10 : up,up and away!! H9R->H12 : I am not scared,I want to open THAT door. H11R->H12 : We r friends cuz we r equal. IP: Logged | |