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posted November 08, 2010 08:12 PM         

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Ok the above info was with Gem...

I had to go back and look at Pisces...

His SN conjunct my Asc 4 orbs
His MC conjunt my SN 6 orbs

At meeting time (well when we connected)
My progressed moon quinx his SN
His Progressed Moon conjuncts my NN
His Jupiter conjunts my SN
His progressed Mc is dead on my Leo stellium..

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Question hummm Maybe Im reaching... but please tell me what you think....

My NN is in Cap SN in Cancer....
Gems venus in Cancer
Pisces venus in Cap...

Do you think the "universe" is trying to tell me to pull away from guys like Gem, and go out with more guys like Pisces???
Is that a far reach? Does that sound crazy???

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posted November 08, 2010 08:14 PM         

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Which one are you more in love with?

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posted November 08, 2010 08:18 PM         

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I dont love either one... lol

But Im more fascinated with Pisces... But I had an awesome connection with Gem, but I dont think I could ever trust him, or believe in him.... And Gem.. oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

But we are not the same people,we were 12 years ago... U know...

Anyways... I met in general... Not necessary with these two men.. But the universe is telling me to stay away from men like GEM and go for me like Pisces.... They are TOTAL opposites...
Even though Pisces Sun conjunct Gems Moon... LOL... Im sure they would get along... LOL

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posted November 08, 2010 08:20 PM         

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Hmmm thats interesting.
Reaching for your NN...

You don't love either of them? Very odd.

I will b back tomorrow, gonna go have dinner and call it a night.

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posted November 08, 2010 08:38 PM         

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Nooo.. I dont fall in love easily... It takes a lot... But I get MAD crushes... (too much Leo in me)

I mean I really really like Pisces.. I could see myself really falling for him, but no its not at the love level... I would need alot more from him to feel the love, which well he's just not going to give...

As for Gem.. He had my heart 12 years ago... IDK i just dont feel the same... But we did clear the air... So for that Im grateful....

OK.. Night!!!
Thanks

ADD:
In the Composite with Pisces we have Moon conjunct Pluto then both opposite Venus..
SO IM FLIPPIN OBSESSED! lol
Venus is in Aries.. sooo WOOT WOOT! lots and lots of excitement and fun

Lucky for me, my Cancer part of me can hide it well, he literally has no clue.. He even told me I know I could never have you to myself... Which is "part" of why it ended.. Plus his assumptions...
U know Pluto ALL or nothing.... Basically is what happen.. Oo plus flippin Uranus sq Venus ...

But either way we can NOT severe the tie... We seem to be getting closer, but IDK how long it will last this time... Its a MESS! dont ask....

I dont think we well end up together.. BUT DAMN that obession thing is a ***** to get over! Especially when u see that person all the time!...
Plus he makes me soooo LEO... He draws out my leo qualities.. I really like that.

Pisces is flippin adorable!! I just wanna wrap him up in a blanket, and bring him home.... LOL
(his NN conjunts my Ceres)

OMG.. If I dont get to cook Chicken Soup for him, Im gonna have to strangle him.... LOL
Thank God Winter is here
(I hate cooking) lol

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posted November 09, 2010 02:44 PM         

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Woah Cake
We shared almost the same conjunctions

My SN conjunct my baby's father Moon and Saturn.
However I agree that SN connections sucks
It is like bad thing concieled as a good thing.
In the beginning there was an instant attraction and "recognition" but after a while (very short while) I wanted to pull away from him asap. which I did but... not after I got pregnant. The pregnancy was a surprise (I tried to get pregnant in my marrige (for 6 years) but no luck) after my marrage eneded I met this guy and Bam! here I am
I am very happy with a pregnancy and arrival of my baby-girl (my first child)
But
We will engage in a custody battle very soon.
I am due next week
Life is a strange thing. Good comes with abad. I am so happy but at the same time can not stand the whole situation (her father already hired a lawyer and preparing for custody battle) ,
But so excited and happy to meet my Baby-girl.
The reason for a custody battle is simple:
MONEY....
So yes, SN connections sucks and somewhat unexpected, lol and dare I say karmic

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posted November 10, 2010 08:13 AM         

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did I kill the thread?

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posted November 10, 2010 08:30 AM         

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i don't think it sucks. in fact quite the opposite.
sun/sn conj.
there is no one that i could ever love more. ever.

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posted November 10, 2010 08:38 AM         

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The South Node gets a bad rep.

It's not malefic,
and it's not something we need to leave behind.

It's a very big part of who we are,
including both the best and the worst.

And, yes, it needs to be balanced
by developing the North Node qualities.

Someone with planets on your South Node
will only make this more apparent,
and that's not a bad thing.

If you have reason to be distrustful of someone,
and you feel like you need to move on, or move away,
then you should probably listen to your feelings.

Why look for corroboration in your chart
for things you know damn well in your heart?

Or, conversely, why look to the chart
to discredit what you know in your heart?

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posted November 10, 2010 09:24 AM         

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Valus,
I am not trying to discredit SN... I am simply musing and Yes, for me personally SN connections are good/bad thing all wrapped up in 1 complicated thing.
and we tend to run away from the complicated things (I think it is normal human behavior)
You are right regarding "If you feel like running I should"
Well... I am trying to "run away"

BTW: I read somewhere (do not remember where)
that Moon/SN conjunction shows previous karmic ties (parental)
If a moon is a mother and Saturn is a father
So he was my mother/father in a previous life?
Once again... It is just my musing....

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posted November 10, 2010 09:52 AM         

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maybe he owes you a baby from a past life.

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posted November 10, 2010 10:12 AM         

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May be.....
But I honestly do not understand this male.
When I got pregnant I gave him a choice.. Either walk away... I do not need anything from you (financially speaking) just walk away.
Or if you want to be a father please exercise ur right. I will be happy.
Well... his reply was:
"I do not have money, I will not support the baby, but I want to be visit my child".
Which is ok... but than verbal abused started
(Name calling and other staff) so I cut him out of my life completely.

and Now he hired a layer to get a full custody of the child. LOL and he is planning to get child support from me.

Why he just go away? Why he stucks to me as a glue? I told him "live ur own life... be happy and just let me live my own life"
I am older than he is.... I do not want anything from him... just leave me alone... I do not want any drama in my life. I will be a mother ƒº¡K I want to concentrate on my baby-girl. I was waiting for her for a long time.
He told me "I will never let you go and I got you pregnant on purpose" .
It is some kind of obsession with me?
What's up with that?
I appologize for being little bit emotional... and please do not get me wrong.... I am happy I am very happy. I will meet her next week (should be induced on Nov 19).... BTW: My saturn is in 5th house.... so I will give a birth after 35

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posted November 10, 2010 11:07 AM         

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He's clearly playing power games with you. He wants the upper hand... for what, I don't know. Have you consulted a lawyer?

You should start secretly recording all of your interactions with him.

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posted November 10, 2010 11:19 AM         

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I did whatever possible to insure my victory!
But we are already pass civil face to face conversations (now our laywers are talking)
The lawyer told me....."Do not worry"
Which I am not. I am kind of over him....
Just curious... what trigger such a strong response from his side?
Because of SN conjunctions? Because I activate his 8th house (Sun, Venus, Juno, Child) is in his 8th house
May be because My Eros exact conjunction to his Psyche, or his Karma on my DC?
Or because his Venus is Scorpio?

Regarding power play.... yes... he wants to have upper hand in this co-called relationship ( we were seeing each other 3 months ONLY).... But why.... he left OTHER relationships without any problems (He is a Sagi) and Sagis do not have any problems to move on.
What I am trying to do is to understand... and forgive (but not forget). Why? Well... I have issues with forgiveness (never was able truly forgive) I am Scorpio Ascending, but because I will be a mother soon and he is a father I want what is best for my baby. (I personally have a wonderful rel with my dad, he is a great dad) and I want my daughter to experience it some sort of civil interaction with her father.

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posted November 10, 2010 12:29 PM         

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What's better the SN or the NN? In synastry.

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posted November 10, 2010 02:55 PM         

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I agree with Valus. And yes, I do think they show people from past lives, the planet conjuncting the SN would be the archetype (moon - a mother, saturn - an authority figure and so on...).

Raspberri, in my experience NN conjunctions (if they're not double whammies) show unrequited love. The NN person feels that their future is with the planet person, and the other person doesn't understand why.

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posted November 10, 2010 03:25 PM         

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^ what planets were on the NN?

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posted November 10, 2010 03:43 PM         

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Maira
can you ellaborate on this more?

"I do think they show people from past lives, the planet conjuncting the SN would be the archetype (moon - a mother, saturn - an authority figure and so on...)"

I have this darn conj My SN conj Moon and Saturn with another person

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posted November 10, 2010 04:56 PM         

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I have these conjunctions with few people in my life, there's my parents, and three close friends (I could sense that one of these friends was my "comrade-in-arms" before I knew his mars was conjunct my SN).
I usually go by my gut feeling, even when I'm interpreting charts, so even if I'd go with the closest orb, what does the connection "feel like"? Do you feel that this person was a teacher or a mother to you?

"^ what planets were on the NN?"

I had my NN on someone's venus, been in love with the guy for about three years, and slowly I realized that there's no chance that he would ever love me back.
And I've also been the NN, several times, but my merc in pisces can recall only one example It was his moon in conjunction with my NN, he still attempts to contact me, there was no relationship and there will never be one, because I feel that there is no chemistry between us.

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posted November 10, 2010 05:05 PM         

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Still_Hopeful, come to think of it, SN conjunctions do sometimes point to unresolved karma... If we do know these people intimately from past lives, we created karma with them. Sometimes it's good karma - one of my friends has his venus conjunct my SN, he probably was my lover , and he seems to love me unconditionally, no matter what. My mother has her moon on my SN, and it's not always pretty...

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posted November 10, 2010 05:07 PM         

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And what are the orbs for these conjunctions?

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posted November 10, 2010 05:28 PM         

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I don't think that personal planet conjunct NN in synastry denotes unrequited love. I have been both the personal planet AND the NN. Affection, even if not in a romantic relationship, was mutual. Although I was most keen when I was the NN.

What if NN/SN are conjunct/opposed to one another? As in, not conjuncting a personal planet, but NN conjunct SN in synastry?

I have experienced this twice. And I just.. I can't begin to describe?... But I don't have those two gentlemen around to ask what it was like for them. The only word that I can come up with to justify it would be, "Magnet."

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posted November 10, 2010 05:39 PM         

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meta, in the cases I was talking about, it was the keenness of the NN person that made the planet person pull away.
I have read somewhere in this forum that NN/SN conjunctions are extremely good in synastry...

raspberri, the conjunctions I have experienced are up to 4 degrees orb (my mother), but the other people I was talking about, both SN and NN, are less than 1.

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posted November 10, 2010 06:28 PM         

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Maira,
Yes it was instant connection from his side. He stucked to me as a glue... I did not want to be involved, but then I had this feelings of instant connection and I would even say recognition. However, something was off. That's why I broke it off
I just could not stand some of the aspects, which one?
well.... it felt fake and superficial. It is very difficalt to explain. Another thing he would say "I care for you" but for some reasons it rubbed me the wrong way.
Strange ah?
May be he was my mother in one life and my teacher/father in other? lol

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posted November 10, 2010 07:07 PM         

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the keenness of the NN person that made the planet person pull away.

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Idk, he didn't seem keen enough which is why I pulled away lol (I was Venus, he was NN).

I like SN more than NN in romantic synastry.

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