posted July 24, 2010 09:21 PM            

First look at the word: Socio-pathy

The word socio becomes social. The planet Venus comes to mind. There is probably some kind of block in the plumbing of chart having to do with Venus or Libra (the social sign) or the house whose cusp(s) is/are in Libra. Then I'd look at Aquarius/Uranus or the house ruling Uranus. Then for pathological lying I'd look at Neptune's making a stressed relationship to Mercury or the 3rd House some how.

posted July 24, 2010 09:38 PM            

Ami

posted July 24, 2010 11:57 PM            

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posted July 25, 2010 01:18 AM            

In a guy's chart, Venus is unaspected in the 12th house - probably this makes him unable to feel or present the depths of feeling or emotion, maybe deep down he feels rejected and that makes him ignore others' feelings, he also has Moon conj Saturn and that adds to his lack of empathy.

Sun conj Moon/Saturn (in the 1st) square Pluto (in the 5th) - his emotional needs are closely tied to his ego, they are kind of inseparable because this is what his ego begins from and defined by, square to Pluto makes him manipulative and prone to emotional blackmail.

Jupiter in the 10th is a focal point of a T-square with nodes (NN being in Sagittarius!) - Jupiter rules the enegrgy of intergration and expansion, being afflicted it may result in his unbound belief in luck and a reckless disregard of consequences of his actions. Jupiter is also associated with morals, law, loyalty and also higher mind so being afflicted it may represent difficulties in terms of social conscience here.

Mars (in the 2nd) opposite mean BML (in the 8th) has probably something to do with stealing.

I think, any of these aspects does not make a native a natural born sociopath it's about the way the person chooses to use the aspects' energy.

Will be back with her chart analysis soon.

ETA: the guy also has Nessus conj Sun so he probably has a low self-esteem and might have been emotionally or phsysically abused as a kid, it looks like he never feels save and is paranoid of being taken advantage of, and being oppressed.

posted July 25, 2010 01:48 AM            

Ami

posted July 25, 2010 02:36 AM            

She does not have Merc square Neptune, the orb is 8 degrees, too large in my opinion but she does have mean BML opposition Neptune >> a classic indicator of proneness for dishonesty, especially these planets being on the Sagittarius/Gemini axis.

She also has Mercury square Mars which probably makes her verbally abusive and explosive. Sun square Moon (Moon being in the 3rd) adds to her temper because the prideful side of her nature clashes with intense emotions and she expresses it through her 3rd house = verbally

Interesting that both of these persons have Sun square Saturn and Uranus opposition Chiron. Sun square Saturn: difficulty dealing with authority, a frustrated ambition for power; Uranus opp Chiron: a constant running from their wounds/issues, inability to resolve them which makes them rebel (against matters indicated by the house) instead of turning for help and doing inner healing.

posted July 25, 2010 03:04 AM            

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I have a Gemini stellium---Sun, Mercury, Venus.
My Venus is in the 7th in Taurus

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posted July 25, 2010 06:31 AM              

*** .. a sociopath that they have met or known? **

here's one that meets your description

11th october 1976
17.30 GMT ..
01.45 west / 53.48 North
( time of birth is a 'maybe' ..
( probably best to ingnore it

posted July 25, 2010 06:36 AM            

Just looking at his natal chart to see if there's anything that stands out..

Venus in the 12th..GCV mentioned before that it may have something to do with Venus as its the social planet..sooo the social planet being in the house of self undoing..let me tell you he's burnt every single bridge in his life.

He's got Pluto in the 8th house and his 12th house venus trines his 8th house Pluto

A moon/mars/saturn/uranus stellium in the 9th house, which is ruled by Scorpio

Neptune in the 10th..very deceptive about the image he puts forth to the world.

Venus conj. AC & Venus sqaure MC (going on the Venus-social perspective)

Mercury trine Uranus, I think I have this aspect too but to me that signifies abrupt, quick changes in thinking and cognitive pattern, inc speech.

Diane had a good look at his natal and noticed he had a lot of critical degrees (I dont know what they are! Anyone kind enough to educate me? )

He also has Sun in the 1st house, just a degree or 2 into Aries (his sun sign) and he was incredibly selfish and self centered, everything was done from the basis of satisfying his ego regardless of the expense of others.
He was an only child and it was so obvious in his personality.

Also, had an Pisces ASC and was born on the Pisces/Aries cusp..the combination of illusion, deceptiveness and the me me me & violence of Aries..

posted July 25, 2010 09:23 AM            

He has a T-square involving Uranus opposition venus and they both square his moon. Cap/Aqua cusp for his Sun, Moon in Gemini, Merc in Cap, Venus in Aqua, Mars in Taurus.(his Draconic chart has mars in Scorp, nasty combo me thinks) I strongly believe he is a Leo or Libra rising. He seems like the nicest guy in the world they would do anything for you -- very full of himself. Not shy at all. But once he gets his claws in you, he slowly begins manipulating you and you aren't even aware most of the time the game that is being played.

He made it his life's mission to make my mom's life a living hell at my brother and my expense. Has gone off and on to college for over 25 years never getting a job anywhere to show for it. Would change his major right before he was about to graduate every time. He is an eternal student so he can escape his responsibilities and that was including paying my mother decent child support. He is severely in dept,(over 100,000 now in student loans) looks for ways to escape paying his bills. Will use anyone he can, never shows more emotion that a calculator except when he needs your pity so he can use you and manipulate you again. He always got his way from a young age according to his mother. One of his old sayings was "Never take no for an answer".

Incredibly materialistic and a penny pincher... Would send my brother and me into Wendy's with two dollars each to order from the $1 value meal when I was young. If would needs some pennies for taxes for a forth item he would tell us to save the left over money and bring it next time cause that would teach us responsibility. So my bro and I ordered a small hamburger each and split the fries instead of getting one order of fries each when we'd spend the weekend with him even though he had the extra pennies to feed us well. That story right there should help you understand what kind of person my father is in all aspects of his life. Seems like he's giving but he's actually completely selfish...

Incredibly filthy. Apartment so nasty I wanted to cry sometimes. Would fix something to eat on a plate with dried peanut butter or food and hand it to me to eat. Scum, shaving hair stuck to gargled dried up mouthwash in the bathroom. **** that looked like it had hardened and jelled in the toilet. Made fun of me when I didn't want to shower about how nasty I was and would tell my mother "I'm not gonna spit shine it for him". I actually cringe when I think just how nasty it all was. As a Virgo Sun cusp and mars, this was absolute hell for me.

posted July 25, 2010 04:25 PM            

His date of birth is December 16, 1945 and he told me he was born in Transylvania. The whole family is from Romania. I chose a city (Brasov) that I read is in Transylvania in order to create his chart. Keep in mind I have no idea what my bio father's time of birth was, nor can I begin to guess his rising sign, so this chart is not reliable except for the aspects that don't change according to birth time.

Well, I got a little break to post this early, anyway. We escaped the bday party, the skies opened up and now we have a severe storm watch here in New York. And here I am at the computer, my old friend.

Most of the dirt I've heard on him comes from my mother, who herself has a few screws loose, but I believe much of what she reports about him. Including that before they got married, she didn't want to sleep with him, but he told her that if he didn't have sex soon, he'd become infertile or some such story. And she believed him, being extremely naive, so she went ahead and did the deed! Wow!!!

That kind of thing seems to have marked his life: he would say anything to anyone just to get his way. He has lied outrageously to me, in my own limited contact with him. He has taken money from his other daughter for a business venture, promising a return, and lost it or used it for his own needs, and reportedly never returned it.