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blugrey
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posted December 15, 2010 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blugrey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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you are hyper aware of the tension between moods and emotions and passions, and are in tune with the etheric effects of these, but your moon is highly isolated.....so you may be repressing this, or believing it an irronciable part of your self....in truth everyone has this struggle in some shape or form....

Very true. :\


I do have yods, but I don't believe that my moon is involved in one because the one angle is my ASC and not a planet. I've been told I have some going toward my Venus though.

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posted December 15, 2010 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bonadea33:
Hi Glaucus,

You should look where the ruler of 8th is: in your case is Mars in 6th house. 6th house is house of diseases. What disease is, you have to look cusp of your 6th, the ruler of 6th, planets in 6th and aspects.

After all, you can combine it.

B.


shrugs

Mars in 6th house could have to do with work and service too. My military work experience easily fits with Mars in 6th.
My Mars in Aquarius in 6th house fits with activism/advocacy,human/equal rights work.

Therefore, my death could be connected to those people. In history, activists/advocates have been killed just for doing what they did and having views that differed from others.


The 8th house ruler, Mars squares my Venus in Scorpio in 3rd which is also my 2nd and 9th house ruler. Therefore, my death could be connected to my value system and belief system as well as my communications.

Mars as both ruler of Aries and Scorpio, disposits my retro Chiron-retro Eris conjunction in Aries in 8th and my Sun-South Eris Node conjunction in Scorpio.


I have Aquarius on 6th house,
My Uranus in 15'17 Libra in 2nd
sextile transneptunian dwarf planet Makemake in 16'20 Leo in 12th
sextile asteroid dwarf planet Ceres in 13'57 Libra


My Moon in 3'11 Pisces is in 6th house
trines Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd
trines transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio in 2nd
trines transneptunian dwarf planet candidate
Quaoar in 2'22 Scorpio in 2nd
square Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius in 3rd
square Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in 3rd
square retrograde Saturn in 5'08 Gemini in 9th
square retrograde transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Varuna in 3'01 Gemini in 9th
sextile retrograde transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Sedna in 3'07 Taurus in 2nd


My lunar 6th house apex t-square with Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd, retro Saturn-retro Varuna in Gemini in 9th reflects my work and service in connection to communication,ideals,belief systems. Being advocate/activist does involve making attempts to help change the views of others when it comes to equal/civil/human rights.
the Saturn-Neptune opposition fits with the restrictions,limitations,sacrifices that are involved as well as empathizing with others that are downtrodden.


with my Moon in major aspect to 4 transneptunian dwarf planet candidates,
my health,work,and service is very strongly connected to evolutionary intensificaion


There is an unnamed transneptunian dwarf planet in my 6th house. It's between the side of Sedna and Orcus. It's larger than dwarf planet, Ceres. Therefore, it will be added to the dwarf planet list. It's nickname is "Snow White"

When it gets its name, there will be more consciousness of this object. This will probably lead to more awareness of it in my 6th house.

in my chart
"Snow White" in 16'35 Aquarius in 6th
oppose Makemake in 16'20 Leo in 12th
square Mercury in 18'22 Scorpio in 3rd

Therefore, it's in a t-square with fellow big transneptunian object and Mercury

Hopefully, "Snow White" will have its name by 2012.

As a big transneptunian object, it would be associated with evolutionary intensification like Pluto and the other big transneptunian objects.


Any ways...I believe that there is a strong possibility of my death being connected to violence.

My mother and I shared a deadly experience when my mom was shot by a schizophrenic man with my being present at the time. That happened 3 days before my 3rd birthday.

Therefore, both my mom and I already had close brushes with a violent death.
It's definitely not far-fetched that my own death could be connected to violence.
It's not something that I am afraid of either.

Things happen for a reason.


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No..I am not a Virgo.

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bonadea33
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posted December 16, 2010 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Glaucus,

Thank you for explanation of your Chart.
The way you write it all: you should write an Astrology book, one day!

It depends what is violent death for you.
For me is violent death, when somebody is killed by other person. I don't think it is going to happen to you (where is your Natal Chart?)

Car accident is just an accident (or destiny).

Suicide is for somebody violent death. For me is that some kind of free will. Even that is not always "successful": how many people have tried to commit suicide and they are still alive?

I have counted for myself: if I was born one hour before, I would be killed. Ruler of 8th would be Mars (and no Venus) in square with the Sun in 8th: typical case of being killed (attentat or similar death).

Bobbie

p.s. I have Medical Astrology book where Astrologer writes: about diseases and death, we should have exact hour of birth (and not 7:00 am, 4:30 pm and so on), otherwise we could give very wrong prognosis (and also kind of death).

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Death solves all problems - no man, no problem – Joseph Stalin

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lechien
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posted December 16, 2010 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my partner has Uranus, Moon, Pluto, Sun, Venus, Mercury and Karma in his Leo ruled 8th house (but all planets in Virgo and Libra). Chiron is in exact opposition with Pluto.

it sounds really intense, i hope it doesn't manifest in a weird way...

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popcorn
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posted December 16, 2010 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My father in an age of 81. His house 8 ruler are saturn. The sign of capricorn are empty. Saturn in a t-square in his natal. Saturn opp jupiter/sun, Saturn square uranus. Saturn trine neptun.
He always been an fighter. I think he will be around 90. He will fight into the end.

I've saturn in house 8 in pisces. My saturn also as my father hard aspected and in an t-square. My saturn trine my Venus/N.N/mars. I've the same tendency as my father. I will always feel I must be to my children. They have only me. I think I will fight to survive as long as I can.

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littlecloud
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posted December 17, 2010 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well aspected Pluto in the 8th by mercury, venus, neptune, NN and chiron.....translation?

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roadwarriorsdp
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posted December 17, 2010 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
littlecloud - the ability to find this message board among other things - hahaha

Um mercury in the 8th there could mean you dwell in the dark or light, it all depends on your relationship with habbits...this hosue is about transformation, we need transformation to let old things that don't serve us die, instead of ending up in the 12th house locked up in our subconcious....I don't know righ tnow i'm low on steem i've been here for hours jabberjiving, but I would assume that with your north node their you may be an ideal healer type, especially with mercury there, although you probably suffer from brain fatigue, because it's so close to intense pluto....not sure....

my brain is fatigued itself.

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littlecloud
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posted December 17, 2010 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you misunderstood...I meant that pluto is in the 8th house (alone...very pluto like) well aspected by mercury, venus, nn and chiron...or maybe I misunderstood?...

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roadwarriorsdp
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posted December 17, 2010 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, no I did....that's actually alot better I believe...You probably have stronger will power than most. This doesn't mean your going to be like rocky or anything but it might mean that you could have an easier time kicking a bad habbit, or for instance, may feel more pressure to than your friends.....

You will also rpobably remember experiences of death and loss more than other things...I don't know for sure beacuse the sun isn't there and the sun represents the ego, and the ego contains all concious memories. It is this part of the ego that interfaces with the subconcious to create an udnerstandable language between you and your soul..

jargon aside with my sun in the 8th house my earliest recollection is crying on my bed at a young age feeling this impending doom over my chest that my mother would die - I think this is the day that I remember more than anything....vividly I must have been around two or three yars old, my mom comes into the room and asks me why I'm crying, I tell her that it's cause she's going to die and I want us to live forever..


That's 8th house type memories...got any of those, with pluto there it might be more or less tragic then the sun or latent or triggered by the collective instead of something personal....

any of that ring a bell?

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roadwarriorsdp
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posted December 17, 2010 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When mars was conjunct natal uranus and natal uranus was conjunct mars on my birthday in 2006/2007 I got into a car crash while talking to my girlfriend at the time on the phone. It was at around 12:00 at night because I wa somw to go to a bar, I had just turned 21, and an illegal hit me in the back while I was at a stop sign...

that's when I started really believing in astrology, when teh aspects for a car accident caused me to be hit by a car....and since I was infront at a stop sign, it wasn't really my fault, but it kind of was because I was taking my time about it, and this mexican dude probalby thought I was going to be quicker about it...

I then proceeded to try and bargain with him because i knew he was an illegal immigrint and I didn't want him to be deported but then another mexican dude thought that the accident was my fault and convinced the dude that if he stayed the cops would help him out...unfortunately the man was deported, and the dude who advized him, another illegal immigrant, just road of on his bike.

I recieved a ticket for not having insurance, and the mexican cop was ****** at me and took me to the station to do a backgorund check.

Uranus is in sagitarius, and mars is in pisces, both those signs preclude dealings with foreign people, and car accidents...interesting no?

I was able to look this aspect up because I knew the year I turned 21 and I knew the times because I was watching gthe clock hoping i'd make it to the bar on time to enjoy my 21st...I didn't.

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roadwarriorsdp
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posted December 17, 2010 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Mars was conjunct natal uranus
and uranus was conjunct natal mars

I was in acar accident, as predicted, but weakend by the space in the orbs, which were greater than 5 degrees.


Funny how that happened as exactly predicted on my 21st birthday at 12:00 am at night...


However, right now my 8th house is getting ravaged by a slew of planets and the only person who is really suffering in my family is my grandfather who will pass away any day now. I'll forward the transits at the time when it does have so at the very least his death may aid us in comming to some conclusion about aspects...

I have my fingers crossed he dies, he is suffering tremendously, and his lungs are filled with fluid from emphezema from smoking all his days.

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littlecloud
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posted December 17, 2010 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yea....somewhat...one of my earliest memories is of my grandpa dying. I would also randomly freak out as a child (sometimes still do) about dying. I'd start crying and have this sort of out of body experience where I felt that I was on the outside of everything..make sense?

but what does it mean in relation to the thread...death and also I've always wondered if Pluto in the 8th meant inheritance from someone's will...

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ChristyT
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posted December 17, 2010 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChristyT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about a parents death. Would it be shown by solar arc pluto squaring, conjuncting or opposing mc or ic?

or 4th ruler?

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roadwarriorsdp
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posted December 17, 2010 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cloud, do you have an affinity for luke skywalker or darth vader? Who does it for you...reason asking is because depending on which one you identify with is the nature of your pluto in the 8th, you will identify strongly with some transcendental archtype...in this day that means you will have an affinity or compulsive projection of this pluto in terms of some sort of transcendtal action heroe/like the crow or something...

let me know what you jive with...it's important..really.

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roadwarriorsdp
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posted December 17, 2010 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for roadwarriorsdp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it may be an athlete there is something you are obsessed about and I'm going to figure it out, it could also be like mcjagger or something, let me know...I have a bunch.....these are things that represent transcendence to you subconciously...it could even be something simple like an image of a cop you have which led you to want to be one...or some sort of thing your friends wonder why you alway sbring up, like in clerks when they talk about star wars all theitme.....see what i mean...it's an archtype.

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littlecloud
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posted December 18, 2010 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for littlecloud     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ummm...yoda?
Ok I know that's not a choice but I don't know their stories too well...I remember something about Darth Vader becoming who he was because he got injured or burned and that made me feel a little sorry for him...but that still doesn't give you an answer...so do you have another analogy?

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posted December 18, 2010 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariscopisgrl87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is my chart and I've got Scorpio Moon & Pluto, both in the 8th House...

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posted December 18, 2010 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
House 12 is death, not house 8.

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raspberri
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posted December 18, 2010 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who in the heck told you that coffee???
So wrong.

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ChristyT
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posted December 18, 2010 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChristyT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so confused now

Coffee - if 12th house is death, what aspects show a parents death in a childs chart then? Is it 12th ruler cj 4th ruler for mother and 12th ruler cj MC ruler for father? or can it be pluto cj sun+moon midpoint or something like that?

I know that you cannot see your own death in your own chart which is why i'm asking

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popcorn
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posted December 18, 2010 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
House 12 could also be a house of death ,hospital. The house 12 ruler neptun and dissolution..

The life and astrology are not always so easy.

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raspberri
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posted December 18, 2010 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not death people.
12th is right before the 1st.
It has been proven over and over again the 8th houe rules death.
Read up on the 8th house.

Uranus in the 8th house always means an unexpected death. Did Princess Diana had Uranus conjunct NN in Leo(royalty) in the 12th ? NO.

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ChristyT
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posted December 18, 2010 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChristyT     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diana's death was expected though
Everyone knew it was going to happen so how can it be unexpected. What was her 12th ruler?

I thought 8th was other peoples money?


EDIT: pisces ruler jupiter is planet that always shows in a death chart, so it does make sense that "coffe" is saying

I'd like to know more coffee, please. If you are happy to say more about 12th and death.

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raspberri
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posted December 18, 2010 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was expected?
Give me a break.

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raspberri
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posted December 18, 2010 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jupiter?
Man you have alot to learn.
Any professional astrologer would say 8th house is death.

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