posted January 25, 2011 09:49 AM            

Like, how much of him can I uncover? How can I get him to put in effort 'for me' this time?

Although I don't like mind games, I like trying to win, and for me anyway, getting a Scorpio to care about me is definitely a victory. And I really appreciate what the Scorpio has to offer. Loyalty, love, trust and connection. For those who have had successful relationships with Scorpios, I envy you.

I know this Scorpio man who married a woman from a different ethnicity and religion. She embraced his thoughts and views (she's a taurus sun), and their six children, young adults now, absolutely live for their dad. They LOVE him and have a more united family dynamic. When I see this Scorpio man and his Taurus wife, I see love, respect and honor between them. And loads of happiness.

posted January 25, 2011 10:05 AM            

I do not think Scorpios are selfish, they are really ready to do everything for the people that mean something to them or family. They are very genuine and loyal friends and parents.

posted January 25, 2011 12:21 PM            

And when they do... That means they have given you themselves. It means they are completely devoted to you. The WORST thing you can do is reject it. They will be scarred for life, and they will still love you... Whether they want to or not.

And, no. Don't touch me. Unless uh... I want you to. Yeah. o.o That's definitely me, there. But, you see, this Aries Ascendant's been getting to me. Every Aries I've met (No offense) is annoying. Friendly people, bubbly, but annoying.

Scorpios... Oppose such manners. But we get stereotyped...

posted January 25, 2011 02:17 PM            

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Originally posted by maddi:
If you gently graze a Scorpio's fingers? Is that invasive? At first he did touch back...mmmmm. But then, I would blatantly touch him as I passed him something, like the newspaper. He didn't touch back after a while. And now, no touching at all.

What's that?

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You see, I'm a Scorpio. I get it. It's not 'invasive', but he wants you to do it. Plus, sometimes, Scorpios find it... 'Ew' when touching someone like when giving them something... DX Trust me! Ew! it's extremely hard to explain, but it's true, ha ha. But don't ask him about it o.o Or he'll turn red.

posted January 25, 2011 03:46 PM            

Very interesting thread indeed.

posted January 25, 2011 03:51 PM            

racole12:Pisces was an example but I sympathize with all the people who are having rough time with them.

NickiG: I don't know whether this is Scorpion or what part of my chart but I find it very difficult to also eat from the same plate or drink water from same bottle. As food is quiet intimate thing for me.

GypseeWind: Thanks a lot for your kind words.

They have the same (small) group of friends and don't change their social habits too much.

I kind of disagree with that Scorpions are very sociable and they do like to have lots of friends or they do crave for it. Yes, they might be discriminating but that is only because not everyone is connected to them in same manner.I have more than 1000 friends/acquaintance but if I really have a problem I can count with my 2 hands whom I would contact.Not because it makes me feel safe. We are not Leos who love to ask for help from everyone or it is easy.In my case it isn't that I haven't tried to keep in touch of all the friends but it is just that I haven't been able to feel the same for all of them or they have stuck around for too long. If you stick around,show dedication & be nice and loving I do not think anyone would be able to resist. I am not saying stay in a bad relationship.

The best way to keep Scorpio interested is you have to be able to talk for long deep, life philosophies & crack some really fun jokes.They love human nature.Show them what they haven't seen.

LadyAries: When Scorpio says they love you, do you think they really mean it?

They would love you forever if they are romantically involved with you.I remember an Aries guy( not my fiance) telling me I love you;-)and it took me ages to understand what it meant. I never got reply but I guess it was more friendly /just buddy.I really doubt Scorpions tend to say stuff like that without meaning it.

blugrey: You know after finishing my post I felt that maybe what you said was expected. Sorry if it sounds scorpions are very self centred.Scorpions are this & that.I didn't really meant to.

The only way you can ever get a Scorpion to stop being jealous is tons of reassurance.

Geri: Scorpions have very high expectations from other people & from themselves, ideals " Things like if you said this, you have to do it"

The easiest way to avoid Scorpion rage is to admit your mistake & give explanation why you are incapable to do what you actually had set out to do.

I have recently come across 2 instances of my life where people did something for me which they thought was correct. It bought some positive and negative aspects to my life. Yes, as much as I appreciate those positives.I also could see how things could have been done differently & increasingly necessity to do differently.So I am in this constant conflict with those 2 people who would just not admit the negatives.In this scenario as a Scorpio I do not expect more but "I am sorry I wasn't the best of _____________________ but I hope you forgive me." Scorpios do forgive.

If you go well let us just be friends again as if nothing happened they wouldn't.

Revenge so that people realize their mistake as sometimes people wouldn't acknowledge their mistake & apologize. People usually a) do not want to know their mistakes b) take the blame of what they did c) admit it and do something about it. Solve the problem.

Revenge is to let people be in same situation, feel same emotions. It is very easy to judge people but it is very difficult to be in someone else shoes.

Maybe, it is a Scorpios greatest mistake that
they expect above statement.

NickiG: Yes, it has turn to Scorpio v/s Pisces but that wasn't intended. It is still all good fun.

blugrey: Scorpions possessive ??? Reassure them & be honest. Once they are sure how you behave they would give you lot of space. I guess for Scorpions first few instances sudden out-of-character is a shock & that is why I insist show your true colors first.Scorpion wouldn't be surprised.If we still feel intuitive we would follow. If you are a person who spends most of your time doing something.Pretending you have no opposite sex friends, you don't drink, drugs,etc.etc. whatever.... in beginning of relationship if you are suddenly start doing completely else. It is difficult to comprehend. If you want to be free, show you are free.Tell before hand that's what you want.

swirl-kitt: I differ to that opinion. Scorpions are very giving and kind.We sometimes are not able to give, nurture in the feminine motherly way as a scorpio. Sympathetic & intutive way which pisces does.
We definitely put lots of effort indirectly.
We care far too much about other people.

Geri : Completely agree with you.

maddi: I am not sure about touching but I guess got to do with I guess people have moods.Read about sex. in OP.

LEXX: I wonder what you would Lex for Scorpions and new sign name.Air your views...including disagreements.

JohnFKennedy: The key is " So long as you didn't do anything to ruin their perception of you, of course." even if you did it is ok. Scorpions just want to know you are trying your best of your abilities.Scorpio want to see you succeed. Do not say or commit anything you can't do. It is better to be modest than Scorpions.

While I feel Saturn- Capricorn puts a stop you until you get frustrated.Be better at it & start believing you are good at it only after working on it.

Pluto-Scorpio helps you and shows you way all along gently & hoping things would change.When things just doesn't seem to go where they should.They blow up.No Stagnation. Transformation, Death & Growth.

posted January 25, 2011 05:47 PM            

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LEXX: I wonder what you would Lex for Scorpions and new sign name.

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Air your views...including disagreements.

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posted January 25, 2011 10:13 PM            

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Originally posted by swirl-kitt:
Why do you guys hate Pisces so much

Yes they are very confusing but they would never let you down when you need help, or cheering up.

Cancer and Pisces can both be very selfless if they sense you need love, attention etc

Scorpios on the other end, we are just incredibly selfish !

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scorpio is not as selfish as you think...a scorpio soldier will jump in the line of bullets to save his friend...a scorpio stranger will jump in the line of traffic to save someone he doesnt know...they may be selfish with material means but he will put his life on the line any day of the week....i'm a scorpio and i will give money to people even when i am struggling...not like a whole lot but you know, some like a dollar or two or five, enough to get some food

posted January 25, 2011 10:24 PM            

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Originally posted by NickiG:
scorpio is not as selfish as you think...a scorpio soldier will jump in the line of bullets to save his friend...a scorpio stranger will jump in the line of traffic to save someone he doesnt know...they may be selfish with material means but he will put his life on the line any day of the week....i'm a scorpio and i will give money to people even when i am struggling...not like a whole lot but you know, some like a dollar or two or five, enough to get some food

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posted January 25, 2011 10:29 PM            

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Originally posted by blugrey:
Well I'd argue that good people of all signs do this.

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yes, that is if they are good people...but of the "general" signs, how many do it out of the goodness of their heart so that the other person may live another day and how many do it to make their selves feel good and to change the views of other peoples about them?

i would guess the ratio is staggering

posted January 25, 2011 10:36 PM            

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Originally posted by NickiG:
yes, that is if they are good people...but of the "general" signs, how many do it out of the goodness of their heart so that the other person may live another day and how many do it to make their selves feel good and to change the views of other peoples about them?

i would guess the ratio is staggering

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posted January 25, 2011 10:38 PM            

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Originally posted by blugrey:
I dunno.. usually I think people don't think about it, they just act in the moment.

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many of the people i have given money to had a higher budget than i did

posted January 26, 2011 03:57 AM            

blugrey: I am really sorry for what happened to you. I am glad you are taking responsibility of your baby on your own & that is very brave. I believe you have valid reason for getting angry.

However I guess it is more got to do with him being a man than him being Scorpio. I
completely think he should have taken responsibility.Some men haven't really thought about kids and raising kids.Running away wasn't right thing. In this circumstances he definitely need to be sorry & apologise. (As I said earlier it is very difficult or sometimes becomes a big expectation even to expect that from certain people.)

You need to forgive him & then decide whether you really need his help or not. What are your fears for taking help? I know it is very difficult to trust people after they have been irresponsible,self centred & mean.

I guess he is trying to compensate by coming constantly by realising his mistake & he is at loss.I am sure your Scorpio is regreting & cares about you and child. If he wouldn't- Scorpions are very much capable to think it is your loss not mine if they were in that situation.

I guess everyone deserves a second chance.very difficult to give but start slow and start afresh (only if you want to).Explain to him that you do not trust him as of now and he would have to make you trust again and be there when you want. Be more giving.Give some ground rules in order to save your freedom.There would be lots of time that not all would be followed.Be very firm on what you want without talking about past or getting personal.Stop expecting same behavior or thinking pattern.

If you are dating someone and you do not want him to be there then explain it. That you have moved on.Since he was part of your family & father of your child. Accept it he is going to be part of your life as he is still father.Whether you like it or not.Another thing I believe is people do disappoint and let down at times.I am not sure what to do with them. You can be angry, make them feel bad, make them realise their mistakes & just hope they will change but after that many people including me do not have patience to see that they can change.

It might be very difficult to see what do you do with this part of your life as of now but you can't not have it.The more you would resist the more it is going to come and haunt you.It is better you make peace with it.I am working on some of my issues that way as well and I will be honest I am still struggling to love people who do bad as I feel there is necessity to save myself as well as my freedom. Hope we both find what to do with difficult parts of our lives.

posted January 26, 2011 11:39 AM            

I always loved my friends with moon in Pisces. I have a new bestie, with Venus in Scorpio and moon in Pisces. So we kinda got that cool yin yang thang goin on. (Hence my moon is in Scorpio and my Venus is in Pisces)
Literally her skin is dark/black and mine white/olive! lol

I don't really see Pisces and Scorpios as manipulative, I just think that they are good at getting their points across. Maybe what I am saying is biased since I have more Pisces and Scorpio in my chart, but I hate the way the Cancer dudes(yes only the dudes) try and manipulate me...it is way to sick and twisted...and usually works at first til I see their patterns. Its like I know what they are doing...but end up putting up with it at first.

I have Moon, Pluto, and Lilith, Juno in Scorpio.
Yes I USE TO hate to be touched...but now I don't mind it so much...as long as I'm cool with you.(I use to freak out when even people I liked touched me.) I think Mary Jane was the one that made me change that a bit. It makes me like wanna cuddle. lmao.

posted January 26, 2011 11:42 AM            

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Originally posted by NickiG:
scorpio is not as selfish as you think...a scorpio soldier will jump in the line of bullets to save his friend...a scorpio stranger will jump in the line of traffic to save someone he doesnt know...they may be selfish with material means but he will put his life on the line any day of the week....i'm a scorpio and i will give money to people even when i am struggling...not like a whole lot but you know, some like a dollar or two or five, enough to get some food

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Actually I was mostly talking about romantic relationships, I read posts that mention how Cancer and Pisces are not good lovers.

As a Scorpio myself, I dated 2 cancer guys and 1 pisces, and I don't think they were in love with me. And yet they were so giving, trying to satisfy me. I loved some of them more than they fancied me, but I was the lazy one, and holding back a bit.

They shared so much, spent so much time even though they didn't like me much.

If I don't like a guy that much, I wouldn't even talk to him. I wouldn't care if he needed love, or to be close. And go: well I'm single, why not get to know him a bit better ?

But these guys, they saw that I needed them, and they gave me more than just sex, they were affectionate. They would even get more serious had I asked. But I didn't because I knew their hearts were not in it.

It's just how Scorpios won't give themselves fully unless they are 100% sure that things are mutual and real.

so that's what I was talking about