posted February 18, 2011 04:17 PM            

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Originally posted by LadyAries*:
Yes that does make sense.

Do you mean that Scorpio would "test" you and slowly start showing their darker emotions, to help you realize if you really want Scorpio or not?

Is it normal sometimes for Scorpio to be very intense and almost obsessive at the beginning of the romance and than slowly show those darker emotions I mentioned, like depression, anger, etc?

I mean I guess It's normal for people to be on their best behavior at first and than life takes over again. Honeymoon phase as some people call it.

The Scorpio I know was so in love with me, and even told me that and than now it's like they're dead But I believe that they do love me.

They keep coming back and Scorpio wouldn't come back unless they care, right?

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Lady everyone in today's world has started living in a world they want to test a relationship. Most people are in Live in relationship because they are testing.

We also live in the world where instead of true emotions ;fake smiles and clown face is more important. Maybe it has got to do something with anti-depressants marketing team,customer service and airlines jobs. They are scientifically and logically very correct.I am not talking of abusive, psycho and stalkers. Happiness isn't constant emotion and there are days I am just neutral.
But lots of people misunderstands with being depressed or sad. Just because I am not jumping up and down on the floor, I am not
being silly doesn't mean I am depressed.I would rather feel good and bad emotions rather just put them aside for others. Some get addictive to things like chocolate, alcohol and we all know all other ways to relax and feel good.

We would digest, analyze our problems, come to our solutions and get all self motivated.
Usually not all sign does that on their own.

According to a Scorpio if we aren't jumping and doing crazy stuff is because we are too mature not to do it.We can't be bothered. It doesn't mean we are depressed or angry.We are normal.

I am not sure how an onlooker come to know whether one is normal or not. I guess you have to judge. As long as somebody's not hitting you every other day for no reason whatsoever or is mentally torturing you.If you want somebody to laugh all the time and be clown. Scorpios aren't that.

But when people start harassing us that look you are really depressed, you are really sad,you really need help,etc is when you are pushing wrong buttons. I would say it is passive aggressive.Stop pestering.We need lot of space. Be there but don't try to read our every thought or analyze every thought.

Trust us when we say something. Nothing drives me more crazy that when I say something or anything is considered to be wrong.

I would tell you a real life situation.
I had my first love affair online. Everything innocent,never met this guy.Nothing sexual happened. My family came to know they responded very badly as if I had done some big crime.My family wouldn't believe I haven't met the person but I wanted to marry him.I know it sounds foolish to me now as well but did I talk to them about my love life? No As much as I would have enjoyed telling my crushes, love stories, break ups,etc.
I told them what they wanted to hear or what they would have been more accepting.I only talked about my marriage as that's what they expected.Is it people pleasing a bit. Yes ! but we don't what to have same emotional chaos and upset.
They had chance to listen to truth.After that they blew up.

Jealousy:
I have tested loyalty like asking guy to just go and get laid somewhere. Never take it even if you are Aries (well he was Cancer).
Most of the problems arise is because 2 people do not know what they consider "disloyalty" . Some are ok kissing, some are ok with sexting, some are ok if their partner slept with someone.

Me and my Aries Bf worked out a small list of things would make us upset if our partners did it. It involved things ok to do and not ok to do. He had female colleagues.Great.
I had male colleagues.Great. Certain kissing and hugging works but some doesn't. So on...
I feel it is good to work out those rules earlier in relationship.

I had also asked my bf to go do everything he wants to before getting involved with me as I don't want anyone to regret that because of me there is any hindrance for him to explore his sexuality or lessons.( Note:He was dedicated so we sticked around 3 years.)

Apart from that we Scorpions are too idealistic,dreamy and can't deal the truth that yes at times people aren't loyal. Sometimes people disappoint and it is easier in today's world to cheat now then ever.

So I am getting into relationship with an attitude "Hope for the best prepare for the worst" that one can't do much if today either of plan to cheat. Really not much unless we wanted to be in jail.

I would like let my fiance do what he wants to provided he tells me or even if he really doesn't tell me and does something. The question is whether I would want to stick around or not? Does it change our relationship dramatically? Do I want to give second chance or not?

Geri

Revenge: Whether it is justified or not, I am not sure in all cases. Somebody has to make you taste your own medicine.Maybe we have dirty work to do in zodiac. Most of the times people make mistakes and fail to admit it.
I would say I have seen Pisces sometimes saying sorry but if dealing with some Capricorn placements finding it extremely difficult to say it.
The question then arises is that whether one gives a second chance to prove that they can undo their mistake? or to be door mat?
It is all personal choice.I believe not all Scorpions take revenge.

Sometimes it happens even without Scorpion knowledge.Coincidence. I had one of my ex-boss who wasn't paying Salaries and making work lots of my colleagues.Ofcourse I couldn't do much but then next thing I came to know is that he is in hospital because some people had kidnapped him and asked for extortion money.So I would say to Scorpios that not always we need to make people realize their mistake.Sometimes they realize on their own. If they are ready to undo it. Give them second chance.

How to get Scorpio: Be who you are and let Scorpios be who they are.Be Excited / Passionate about life. If you are living,doing something half hearted you might as well not.Stick to what you said and DO IT or have good enough reasons NOT excuses.

posted February 20, 2011 12:27 PM            

If you want to understand a "Scorpio" like me, you have to stop looking at me as a Scorpio because you're not going to understand me well. It would be like looking at me with my speech problems as a little child, and then thinking that I am intellectually handicapped which has happened to me.

I am very complex person.

I feel that you would have to understand my whole overall chart in all of its dimensions to truly understand me in a complete way.

That couldn't be done until the 21st Century.

just an example:

20th Century Astrologers would know that I have the following aspects to my Sun

Sun trine Moon in Pisces - 2'10

quincunx Saturn in Gemini - '13

if Astrologers look deeper

oppose/conjunct the Lunar Perigree/Apogee axis in Taurus/Scorpio - '21
(same as conjunct True Black Lilith in Scorpio)

That's only if Astrologers actually use True Black Lilith. Most use the Mean Black Moon Lilith which always has a predictable,direct motion unlike the True Black Lilith that has an erratic movement and goes retrograde often.

after the 21st Century, astronomers started finding big transneptunian objects and they started to show that my Sun trine Moon was lot more complicated besides the Saturn

in 2000, Varuna was discovered
Moon square Varuna in Gemini - '10

in 2001, Ixion was discovered
Sun conjunct Ixion in Scorpio - '05
Moon trine Ixion - 2'15

in 2002, Quaoar was discovered
Sun conjunct Quaoar in Scorpio - 2'59
Moon trine Quaoar - '50

in 2003 , Sedna was discovered
Moon sextile Sedna in Taurus - 1'05

in 2004, Orcus was discovered
Sun contraparallel Orcus - '01
Sun biseptile Orcus - '01

in 2005, Eris was discovered

in 2007, I learned about planetary nodes which opened me up to new discoveries about myself.
Jeffrey Wolf Green, Theodor Landscheidt, Zipporah Dobyns, Pamela Rowe,and Carl Payne Tobey got me interested in them and helped me understand their great importance.

Sun conjunct Geocentric South Eris Node in Scorpio - '09
Sun oppose Geocentric North Eris Node in Taurus - '10
Sun oppose/conjunct Geocentric Eris Nodes in Taurus/Scorpio - '10

Sun sextile Geocentric South Varuna Node in Capricorn - '21

It was finding the strong Eris nodal contacts to my Sun that helped me understand my life purpose and the karma in connection to it
As a person with my Sun in Scorpio in strong contact to the Eris Nodes, I didn't care about Pluto's demotion because of the discovery of Eris. I was actually glad! I thought it was about time. Pluto was never a planet to begin with. I thought the discovery of Eris led to setting the record straight even though the decision to demote Pluto was full of controversy which fit perfectly with Eris. It helped me understand that I can be highly controversial,discordant if I express myself too intensely and passionately (South Eris Node in Scorpio). Only if I express myself more in a practical and stable way (North Eris Node in Taurus), people would understand that I am person that stands for equality and tolerance of diversity. I am supposed to be strongly connected to the collective in regards to diversity,equality,discord,and controversy.

in 2009, I learned about Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude) which led to more discovery about myself

Sun oppose Sedna - '44
Moon sextile Sedna - '39 (closer than in regular chart)

Sun conjunct Quaoar - 1'47 (closer than in regular chart)

Sun quincunx Varuna - '05

Moon semisquare Eris - '07

also fixed star stuff:
Sun conjunct Alpha Bootes star, Arcturus - '33

in 2010, I learned about the discovery of the yet unnamed transneptunian dwarf planet candidate 2007 OR10 'Snow White'

Sun trine 2007 OR10 "Snow White" Node in Pisces - '32

but yeah......looking at me as just a Scorpio and even with the 20th Century Mainstream Astrology lense would miss out on lot of who I am

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted February 20, 2011 12:35 PM            

To have the secret ability to "own" others if they want to, and often they do...

Very selfish, all the while putting on the front of being true and loyal.