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Ami Anne
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posted June 01, 2011 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Minor aspects do not count when considering an unaspected planet.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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JoJo
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posted June 01, 2011 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yrone:
Well I think vulnerability with feelings makes most people cringe (it did/does for me), no matter the chart. It's just that once you've been hurt back in there without proper "safety net" to catch you, the tendency becomes to not let anyone ever get close again, but it really just sets you up for self fullfilling prophecies which then lead to you telling yourself "see, see I told you it would happen, haven't I. Dumb woman thinking any of them would be different. Damn them all to hell" when of course, you still long for the opposite. But I disgress.

Anyhow, what site did you use for that chart. I plugged in your birthdate at astro.com and it does look slightly different.

I don't know if a sesquiquadrate and a semi-sextile allow for an orb slightly over 1°, but if it does, your Venus has two minor aspects besides that wiiiiiiiiide square.

One question, do you have the tendency to act all "tomboy" around man without showing much feelings/feminine qualities? I'd wager since you said they think of you as buddy despite the looks.
I really do have the same "problem", think I could go around naked and no man on this planet would think of anything dirty. It is a bit disconcerting, I mean, every now and then it would be nice to be "wanted"


Yes, I used astro.com. I used the default house system, but the equal house system puts my sun and (I think) Mercury in the 8th house.

As far as acting like a tom boy... YES YES YES! LOL. I am the only child of a man who desperately wanted a son, I have three sons myself, and I am one of the few women in a male dominated career field. My whole life has been male oriented in a sense. I probably have more men friends than women friends. But my closest friends are women.

The women friends I have can be counted on one hand, and they are all strong, dynamic, larger than life women who see right through my tough guy exterior and don't hesitate to call me on my crap. Women who are "all girl" tend to be repelled by me and generally don't like me.

Add to that an amazing mother who as I was growing up preached to my friends and me, "Don't you ever, ever, ever put yourself in a position to have to rely on a man to take care of you!"

Because of all these dynamics, I've learned to suck it up and stand on my own. When a man is in my life, its because I want him there, not because I need him. I'm learning that men may say they don't want needy women, but its not true. Most guys I've dated who claim to want a woman just like me completely freak out and can't handle a woman "who has her own tools and knows how to use them" LOL

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posted June 02, 2011 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, Ami, Ami, I think I figured it out!!!!

It's my Venus in Aries... check this out - this is so TOTALLY me!

The central conflict for Venus in Aries stems from the identification with the aggressive, martial drives. A natural tom boy, she is at home with the boys. Venus indicates the aesthetics one enjoys. In Aries, Venus enjoys the aesthetic of badassness. She likes watching the Ultimate Fighting Championship, and playing Mortal Combat. The spectacle of raw energy, creativity and power makes her chain mail panties rust.

However, when she approaches sexuality, she tends to do so from a masculine point of view. Venus in Aries understands what men want, because, in many ways, it’s what she wants. Venus in Aries waffles between being “just one of the guys” and largely asexual, to powerful and direct sexuality.

Simultaneously embracing and yet excluded from male dominated arenas, Venus in Aries is in a difficult position. To play with the boys, she must prove herself and either down play or put to strategic use her sexuality. Her fellow women will often be jealous of close relationships with men, and may also reject her for not being feminine enough or for acting like a “**** .” Her identification with the masculine perspective makes it difficult for her to create a vision of herself as a woman outside the eyes of men, and problematizes her relationship to women. Because it is so permeable, the barrier between the sexes is often exaggerated in order to reinforce it.

In an era between traditional gender roles and total freedom, Venus’ movement through Aries crosses and blurs these lines, incorporating much of what is traditionally masculine into the culturally accepted sphere of the feminine. It’s difficult being a tom-boy, porn star and feminist simultaneously, but someone has to do it.

http://austincoppock.com/2010/03/venus-in-aries/

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Yrone
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posted June 02, 2011 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, that sounds like me as well, only that my Venus is in Cap, however ...

... I have a Pallas, Lilith, Vesta conjunction in Aries.
For me it is my 12th house and because for long time I didn't live it I felt miserable.

But I am also a Cancer IC, so I shall have a very caring and tender mama look on my face when I slit your throat.

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Ami Anne
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posted June 02, 2011 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes Jo Jo
I thought the Aries Venus was KEY,too!
Astrology is so wonderful.You wonder how people can do without it

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

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posted June 02, 2011 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So for all the other Venus in Aries girls... how do we deal with it and make ourselves more appealing to the opposite sex?

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Ami Anne
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posted June 03, 2011 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I have a Venus in Aries 3D friend. I tried to tell her she was coming on too strong.
She has everything going for her but cannot keep a guy.
She would not listen. She said"I don''t want to play games"
All of life is games Darlink

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted June 03, 2011 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by JoJo:
So for all the other Venus in Aries girls... how do we deal with it and make ourselves more appealing to the opposite sex?

Well I am not Venus in Aries, as said above, but I do really have the "buddy" problem and well I am working on integrating the feminine traits I do have without pretending to be something I am not. Tried that when I was younger, with clothing, tons of make up etc. But it ain't me. It was a mask I wore to please and now I think that just added to the problem because I never really was comfortable in my skin.

Now my clothing stays mostly boyish whilst I am smelling like a rose Or simple Jeans and Shirt with a very light girly colorful scarf? Something like that.

As far as behaviour goes, you have to see if you can feel comfortamble with yourself "being more warm"?

Oh and don't forget to breathe

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posted June 03, 2011 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Random "fun" fact:

Your Asc/Jupi is conj to my IC and on the other side Saturn

Your Pluto and Uranus are sandwhiching my Moon

Your Venus is hugging my BML

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posted June 03, 2011 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi! Fellow Venus in Aries girl here!

Modifications to keep in mind: my Sun is Taurus in 9th, Moon is Pisces in 7th, Venus is Aries in 8th

Well I definitely feel the "buddy" thing you're talking about! I definitely identify better with male personalities than I do female... I've always had a lot of guy friends... But this is only the case in my platonic relationships... In my personal/partner relationships, I am very stereotypically girly, often to the point where it seems I don't understand guys at all!! lol... The interesting
thing is that I'm not a tomboy at all. In fact, I'm about as girly as they come i.e I have one pair of flat shoes and those are my running sneakers...

The truth is that I simply get along better mentally and intellectually with men. Especially in my high school years, girls were prone to gossip and other rather pointless conversations (in my opinion). I found them (with the exception of my few close girlfriends) to be
shallow and boring. I would much rather discuss politics, religion, philosophy, the arts, etc. which my guy friends were much more interested in at the time
(generally speaking). They were straight forward, funny, simple, didn't bicker about petty things, and didn't really care to indulge in gossip. In relationships, while I'm very feminine, I'm pretty straight forward from the beginning and I don't like to play games either.

Lol and to answer your question, when I have tried to attract a partner I normally tried to use my intellect... while still remaining feminine in my appearance.

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posted June 23, 2011 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by etherealenlightenment:
Hi! Fellow Venus in Aries girl here!

Modifications to keep in mind: my Sun is Taurus in 9th, Moon is Pisces in 7th, Venus is Aries in 8th

Well I definitely feel the "buddy" thing you're talking about! I definitely identify better with male personalities than I do female... I've always had a lot of guy friends... But this is only the case in my platonic relationships... In my personal/partner relationships, I am very stereotypically girly, often to the point where it seems I don't understand guys at all!! lol... The interesting
thing is that I'm not a tomboy at all. In fact, I'm about as girly as they come i.e I have one pair of flat shoes and those are my running sneakers...

The truth is that I simply get along better mentally and intellectually with men. Especially in my high school years, girls were prone to gossip and other rather pointless conversations (in my opinion). I found them (with the exception of my few close girlfriends) to be
shallow and boring. I would much rather discuss politics, religion, philosophy, the arts, etc. which my guy friends were much more interested in at the time
(generally speaking). They were straight forward, funny, simple, didn't bicker about petty things, and didn't really care to indulge in gossip. In relationships, while I'm very feminine, I'm pretty straight forward from the beginning and I don't like to play games either.

Lol and to answer your question, when I have tried to attract a partner I normally tried to use my intellect... while still remaining feminine in my appearance.



Ha Ha... I just kick them in the shins! No, I'm just kidding. I have been working on tempering my "presence" and it seems to be working. We'll see how it goes as it's an ongoing experiment.

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