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JoJo
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posted May 30, 2011 03:33 PM
  
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This is fascinating Jojo. We are gonna get to the bottom of it 
Do you have an Aries Venus?
If not ,which house is your Venus? Which sign while we are at it?
What aspects does it have while you are at it lol?
Please ,don't post your chart quite yet if you don't mind.
If you are willing I would like to ask you some questions.
This situation ,if it is a pattern WILL have a root. If you find the root,you can deal with it.
I think I've listed all the aspects you're asking for. If not let me know and I'll post more, or my chart if that's easier. I just want to figure out what the heck is wrong with me. I have a ton of men friends and we hang out all the time. One of them told me that despite my looks, I come across as a buddy and no guy wants that. I don't know how to be anything other than me. It's getting to the point that it's starting to seem easier to sit home by myself because at least I won't continually disappointed. Venus in Aries in the 9th house
Aries in the cusp of the 10th house
Taurus is the cusp of the 11th house
Capricorn is the cusp of the 7th house
Libra is the cusp of the 4th house
Mars in Scorpio in the 4th Venus aspects:
Square moon 8 deg 45'
Semi-Sextile retro Mercury 1 deg 22'
Sesquiquadrature retro Neptune 1 deg 43'
Conjunct Lilith 3 deg 24'
Conjunct MC 0 deg 57' IP: Logged |
JoJo
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posted May 30, 2011 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Jo Jo
I just saw your Venus on another thread.
The Aries Venus female can become "male like" in that they chase.
The Aries man does the opposite. Are you attracted to Men with Aries Venus?
That is the rare male who can be chased,
However,he cannot be chased excessively,either lol
I think you are coming on too strong if your situation is as you describe it.
As far as the last guy goes... he came on like a freight train. Since I hadn't fully decided what I wanted to happen between us, I was laying back quite a bit. The next day he did a complete 180. Other than the one guy I originally posted about (who's still keeping residence inside my head), no guy has ever really taken the chance to get to know me. Half the time I don't even get a first date before they either run screaming for the hills or I never hear from them again. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 30, 2011 03:43 PM
Hmmmm Jo
A Mystery
We are gonna get to the root of this or die trying lol OK--Lets look at Venus first
Tell me about the asteroids Nessus , Dejanerai
and Eros too
OK---List the aspects to your ASC too if you would Jo Jo
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Ami Anne
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posted May 30, 2011 03:51 PM
Ok I see one thing so far that would go with the Venus in Aries "theory".
Lilith is raw sexuality. So, this may scare off men whether they know it consciously or not.
You know what==Put up your chart lol
This will be the easier way
Add the asteroids I mentioned above, Darling
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JoJo
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posted May 30, 2011 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Hmmmm Jo
A Mystery
We are gonna get to the root of this or die trying lol OK--Lets look at Venus first
Tell me about the asteroids Nessus , Dejanerai
and Eros too
OK---List the aspects to your ASC too if you would Jo Jo
Eros in Aquarius in the 8th
Dejanira in Taurus in the 11th
Nessus in Gemini in the 11th Cancer Ascendant with the following aspects:
Square Mars 8 deg 14'
Conjunct Jupiter 0 deg 39'
Trine Saturn 5 deg 54'
Sextile Uranus 1 deg 27'
Trine Neptune 0 deg 07'
Sextile Pluto 4 deg 44'
Trine Chiron 0 deg 44'
Sextile Dejanira 1 deg 48' I think I'm hopeless. Ha Ha IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 30, 2011 03:57 PM
Ok You have Jupiter conjunct the ASC. Again, this adds to the picture cuz you are probably full of life i.e. bigger than life.
This may scare of men who may be intimidated by your strong sense of self.------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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Ami Anne
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posted May 30, 2011 03:58 PM
Put up the chart Darling with the asteroids. I am gonna meditate on it.------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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JoJo
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posted May 30, 2011 03:59 PM
Here you go. Thanks so much for this.  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 30, 2011 04:01 PM
It is my pleasure Girlfriend  ------------------
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JoJo
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posted May 30, 2011 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok You have Jupiter conjunct the ASC. Again, this adds to the picture cuz you are probably full of life i.e. bigger than life.
This may scare of men who may be intimidated by your strong sense of self.
That's the thing that was so great about the guy I can't seem to forget - he wasn't intimidated or put off in the least. He lit up my world and interacted with me in a way that I've never experienced... I so desperately want that again.
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Ami Anne
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posted May 30, 2011 04:05 PM
I am gonna look at it slowly and come back and write things and ask you questions.
You have Deja oppose Neptune.You may not be able to SEE where and when you are a victim until it is too late and you realize someone has taken advantage of you.
Does that ring true at all Jo Jo?------------------
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JoJo
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posted May 30, 2011 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I am gonna look at it slowly and come back and write things and ask you questions.
You have Deja oppose Neptune.You may not be able to SEE where and when you are a victim until it is too late and you realize someone has taken advantage of you.
Does that ring true at all Jo Jo?
I don't know... I'm so strong that I never think of myself as a victim in any way. I'm a survivor and a rock. When someone treats me wrong, I see it as them being broken instead of me being a victim. It helps me stay emotionally healthy I guess. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 30, 2011 04:14 PM
Ok When you look BACK do you realize in retrospect people took advantage of you but you could not SEE at the time?
This would be this particular aspect.------------------
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JoJo
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posted May 30, 2011 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok When you look BACK do you realize,in retrospect people took advantage of you but you could not SEE at the time?
This would be this particular aspect.
Yes. Probably. Although I cringe to even give this thought any credence. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 30, 2011 04:29 PM
We have to face ourselves Darling.I hate it ,too,if that is any consolation 
Ok --You have an Air void which makes it very hard for you to detach. You may let emotional things assault you cuz you don't have Air which ALLOWS one to step back.
This would play out that if someone hurt your feelings ,you could feel overwhelmed like a landslide hit you. You may do strong actions like break up. You may feel you have no way out in such situations cuz it is very hard for you to step back and ***** /detach.
Does this feel right?
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JoJo
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posted May 30, 2011 05:03 PM
Not really. I've never had a problem detaching - until that one guy. But even though I'm hung up on him, we're not in contact so it's a non issue.My problem is that no one wants me except the guys that I have no interest in. Maybe my standards are just too high and I should take what I can get... on second thought, I can't do that. I can't be with someone just for the sake of having someone in my life. All my friends say I have a tough outer shell, but once you get through it, I'm a pussy cat. So I tried not having a tough exterior and that didn't work either. Like I said, I'm probably hopeless. Lol IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 30, 2011 05:11 PM
Ok You have mercury Combust the Sun.This is an aspect which is hard to detach one's ego (Sun) from one's mind(Mercury)
Can you relate to this?
This would play out the way I described before. So, are you saying you cannot relate to this at all Jo?
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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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JoJo
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posted May 30, 2011 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok You have mercury Combust the Sun.This is an aspect which is hard to detach one's ego (Sun) from one's mind(Mercury)
Can you relate to this?
This would play out the way I described before. So, are you saying you cannot relate to this at all Jo?
That I can relate to. I'm very cerebral. I've learned that my brains can be intimidating, so I try to not be a know it all when I talk to people. I work very hard at listening. In retrospect, my feelings do get hurt easily, but I play it off like it's no big deal whenever I can. If I can't play it off, I retreat.
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Ami Anne
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posted May 30, 2011 05:20 PM
This aspect--again --would be a hard time stepping back.
Think about it for a bit. This would make it hard to see yourself clearly .
This could be a hard time seeing yourself realistically.You may not see the good points,even, you know?
Two segments of the self are exactly conjunct( on top of one another)------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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JoJo
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posted May 30, 2011 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This aspect--again --would be a hard time stepping back.
Think about it for a bit. This would make it hard to see yourself clearly .
This could be a hard time seeing yourself realistically.You may not see the good points,even, you know?
Two segments of the self are exactly conjunct( on top of one another)
So tell me who I am and I will know. I can take it, even if it's bad... IP: Logged |
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posted May 30, 2011 05:27 PM
Earlier you touched on my strong sense of self (very true). But how can I have that if I don't see myself clearly?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 30, 2011 06:01 PM
Well, the chart is a complex picture.Every part counts down to the smallest detail.
If a trend can be confirmed 3 times ,for example, it is a strong trait.
There can be traits which SEEM contradictory but they are all part of the person.
The excellent astrologer can put everything together in to a whole.
The student must put forth the separate parts while looking for patterns which repeat.
The Merc/Sun combust does not make one a strong person or a weak person.
It is just closeness of two separate parts of the self==mind and ego.
The person,as such finds it hard to pull back and assess themselves.
The Air void would be a repeat of difficulty in standing back and detaching.------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
You must lose your life for My sake in order to find it .
Jesus
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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JoJo
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posted May 30, 2011 06:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well, the chart is a complex picture.Every part counts down to the smallest detail.
If a trend can be confirmed 3 times ,for example, it is a strong trait.
There can be traits which SEEM contradictory but they are all part of the person.
The excellent astrologer can put everything together in to a whole.
The student must put forth the separate parts while looking for patterns which repeat.
The Merc/Sun combust does not make one a strong person or a weak person.
It is just closeness of two separate parts of the self==mind and ego.
The person,as such finds it hard to pull back and assess themselves.
The Air void would be a repeat of difficulty in standing back and detaching.
So how does this relate to my trouble with men? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 30, 2011 06:24 PM
Well Jo Jo
You are a multi faceted person who has a "problem" with men.
The various parts of you interface to make this problem so to try to solve it, you need to see who are at your basis.
If I HAD to paint a picture right now of why you had the problem ,I could based on these few facts but it is not as deep as I would like to take it------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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posted May 30, 2011 06:29 PM
If I had to put these 5 factors together at this point, this is what I would say.
You are a larger than life woman(Jupiter conjunct ASC)
You have Lilith conjunct Venus--raw sexuality.
You have an Aries Venus which can be very assertive with men.
You have an air void and Mercury combust the Sun which may make it hard for you to detach .You may miss cues which indicate you are going after the guy too strongly and he is uncomfortable.
Also, this may make you take any critisisms or slight too much to heart .You may THINK they guy does not like you when he does is what I mean.
This would be my current theory up to this point ,only. ------------------
Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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