posted August 07, 2011 08:10 AM            

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Originally posted by bethcarliseh:
What others seem to see as romantic, I see desperation with clarity.

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If you truly mean this, Beth, I can't see you coming from a place of love, but of bitter cynism. What made you become like this, Beth, immune to human emotion?

I don't feel you wanting to help me, I feel you wanting to preach me and it's not something I will accept, though some of your heart might be in the right place.

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posted August 07, 2011 08:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
If you truly mean this, Beth, I can't see you coming from a place of love, but of bitter cynism. What made you become like this, Beth, immune to human emotion?

I don't feel you wanting to help me, I feel you wanting to preach me and it's not something I will accept, though some of your heart might be in the right place.

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Truth can come from a place that really seems cold. You have to really swim through the frozen water to obtain it.

You will eventually understand that I am no preacher. I am a teacher. "The teacher which does not want to teach but has to."

posted August 07, 2011 08:33 AM            

someone probably mentioned this already, but, your venus is even more unaspected than Ami Anne's.

posted August 07, 2011 08:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
Yes, I think that would be the appropriate attitude to take with Online Dating, when you consider how many people fake alot. But this guy seems genuine!

And LOL, I have a Merc/Pluto trine! Maybe that's why I never like being on the fence about things/people/etc and I can't stand not knowing where I stand with others

And yeah, the common misconception is that the Aries Mars female wants a cave-man and that ain't true for me either. I think we mainly just want someone with a backbone. Though I think most people should aim for that, male or female. Just my opinion.

And he has two degrees? Looks like you two might have a lot to talk about! Might keep things from going awkward...ah, that's just my Gemini Venus talking. For someone who's quiet most of the time, I definitely talk alot when first meeting someone because in my head "silence" equals awkwardness and "no good". Its a weird paradox.

And OMG, off topic: but you work in the OR, right? I did a Clinical Rotation there and LOVED IT. If I could never be a Peds Nurse again then I would definitely be an OR Nurse. Its so cool, the things you get to see, and it seems an easygoing crowd to work with despite the not-so-easygoing job they have to do.

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Indeed, he seems genuine. He went through a lot of trouble to prove it and God knows I tested his patience a few times.

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posted August 07, 2011 08:48 AM            

Mercury-Pluto people are definitely like that. The truth is always better than suspicion, even if it's unpleasant. Ohhh, the torture of uncertainty!! I cannot stand it. Reject me if you will, but don't make me go through the agony of wondering what's inside your head.

Indeed, Aries Mars needs someone with a backbone. Very nicely put! One of my exes didn't seem too upset that a man with authority wanted to sleep with me, because that would have helped him get ahead. I think that was the last drop, I was so disappointed in him, disgusted even.

You know, my Venus may be in Taurus, but it's in the 3rd house, kinda like a Gemini Venus LOL. Yeah, being able to talk about anything is important for me, as well. And that awkward silence during the first date... is a bad omen!

Yes, I work in the OR. Well, sometimes. It is really amazing and I love it. Indeed, surgeons are among the most cheerful doctors that I have seen, almost all tell jokes and act funny. It is, perhaps, our way to cope with the gore we see every day. But if you really liked it, go for it! It's one of the best places to be in, in my biased opinion. Never a dull moment heehee. And, btw, I think your Cancerian side really enjoys being a nurse, while Aries Mars would like the OR. So go for it, if it feels right! It can be tough, but that you can handle, and it has plenty of rewards.

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posted August 07, 2011 08:54 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Hi Hera,

someone probably mentioned this already, but, your venus is even more unaspected than Ami Anne's.

Sorry, not a very constructive post, but I couldn't help but notice.

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posted August 07, 2011 09:01 AM            

Beth - I wasn't going to respond to you any more on this thread but my 9th house leo mercury that is trined by my aries moon will not allow me to stay quiet. I'm embarrassed that you said I gave Hera a lesson that will change her entire life. Hera has already changed her entire life and is well on the way on her journey. You did not bring us together. I was first to respond to Hera's post, probably fuelled by the fact my moon chiron conjunction sits in between her sun mercury. You did not give us the power to share with each other, my moon on her sun/merc {or her sun/merc on my moon} did that.

We were already gold before you touched us.

All you did was create a distraction, I'd come back to tell her about the dream symbolism and was distracted by your post and then got caught up in asserting a few things.

You were no more than yet another symbolic hurdle to be overcome.

posted August 07, 2011 01:25 PM            

And now I remember why I kept thinking your Venus is in Gemini! 3rd house influence! I have to agree it lends the gift of gab to even the most typically shy or reticent of placements.

And I'm reading Sassaqua's response and I'm curious too, because I thought Unaspected Venus was Unaspected Venus, unless Ami's Venus does hit one planet that I wasn't aware of? At anyrate the only thing Venus aspects in my chart is my MC/IC line (trine and sextile respectively) so I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I'm wondering how intergrating it via my home and my career would help me out in love here...LOL.

posted August 07, 2011 11:17 PM            

By the way, yesterday I was looking more at charts - solar returns, progressions etc. He gave me 1 hour timeframe for his birth time. I chosed the middle, but I think I was wrong. I think he might actually have early Scorpio Asc. I get this sense of fixity in him... like when he decides something, nothing can shatter him. Of course having Pluto on Asc can create a similar feeling... but I checked his Solar Arcs for the time he left home at 16 and it makes more sense with Scorpio Asc (SA Mars on natal IC, SA MC/IC axis square natal Uranus, ruler of IC at the time when T-Uranus was conjuncting his natal IC...).
My chart ruler Saturn is probably right on his Asc. Yeah, he sees me as a wet blanket, always hitting the break pedal on his enthuziasm...

Dating a Scorpio Asc... boy, am I in trouble. He's overwhelmingly sexual, which kind of worries me a little, given my background of pseudo-child sexual abuse and being almost raped a few times... Seeing his Nessus exactly on my DC and 4 deg away from squaring my Dejanira certainly doesn't help things.

I don't think I ever dated a fixed Asc before. Most of my boyfriends were Virgo Ascendants. Which worked alright, earth to earth, very gradual. Clearly it is not the case with the Sag, since we sort of fallen in love even before seeing each others' pictures. But that may be just our excess Fire taking command.

I was thinking... he is actually born 1 day after my first boyfriend. They're quite different people, to be honest. But the synastry is probably 80% the same. And it wasn't one of my happiest relationships. I don't remember my exes time of birth, but I think he might have been Cancer Asc? I don't know. Anyway, my ex had psychiatric issues and was on meds. It ended because he became violent with me. This is a bit disturbing, to be honest.

My first ex actually rejected me at first. But when he came back, he was smitten for good. Venus-Uranus thing, I suppose. I still receive annonymous texts or calls "by mistake" from him, 7-8 years after the break-up. We didn't stay in contact otherwise.
I wasn't all that attracted to my ex. Our first kiss was just horrible. Thank God it ended before we had sex. He was very attracted to me, though.

posted August 08, 2011 03:14 AM            

I know that meeting people in real life can be very scary and a huge step but one that everyone must take.

posted August 08, 2011 06:13 PM            

just meant to say "Hello" and also wish you luck for meeting the Sag.

And don`t put yourself under pressure. You don`t HAVE to like him. If it happens, great; if not, well, then he is not the right one (at this point in your life and personal development) and it was just a nice meeting.

Oh btw I have read that book, many years ago,I should do it again I guess. So I think I will take it with me on my trip to London tomorrow.

Just in case you don`t know who I am. I am (or I was) DD.

posted August 10, 2011 05:19 AM            

I met him this morning in a park and I liked everything about him! It was a horrible morning, it rained and it was so gloomy, I got lost on my way there, coz I haven't been in that part of the city so far, so I was 20 minutes late. Everything seemed to go so wrong, I was so disappointed... Until I laid eyes on him. I had this wonderful, affectionate feeling for him, instantly. All those worries vanished immediately. I never felt so completely at ease with someone, it's so unlike me. I'm usually rigid around people when I meet them for the first time. But with him, it was different. I don't know why, perhaps it's the Sun-Moon thing... I have this feeling that he can accept everything about me, and I can do the same. Even the fact that he's a big guy, but not only it doesn't bother me, but I find him quite attractive!! OMG, this has been such a wonderful surprise, to see that it really goes beyond the physical and the arguments... He's very dear to me, PERIOD.

I don't have a lot of time right now, coz I have an appointment to get to, but I wanted to let you guys know how it went. Thank you all for your support (Beth included) and I will be back to reply to BM, RAS and DD (so nice to see you again ).

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posted August 10, 2011 08:19 PM            

haha..