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Hera
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posted July 31, 2011 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all...

To make a long story short, I've been single for 3 years now, since the break-up with *teh Bull*. The one I thought was IT. Since then I went through a phase in which I simply didn't want to date anymore, but I don't feel that way anymore. I'd like to find someone to start a family with... The problem is that I cannot, for the life of me, like anybody of the ones who like me and would like to be with me. No... I like unavailable ones, last one I liked is married with a child on the way. No, I didn't go there, I stopped myself when I found that out. Or jerks... who just take off without a word or leave me hanging.

But to be completely honest, I don't think I truly liked/loved anyone. I'm always like looking at them asking why the hell am I with this guy, do I even like him???

Oh, and yes... I know it's because of my daddy issues. I'm doing psychotherapy for that and strange Pandora's boxes have been open... like the fact that I was terrified of the idea that my dad might like me... differently. In a non-parent-child sort of way. No idea where that came from, I must have blocked those memories somehow.

But I ask of you... what in the sky could possibly cause this? My unaspected Venus? I can't possibly put all the blame on her. My Mars opposite Saturn? And how, please, how can I get myself to like/be attracted to someone nice, decent, who treats me respectfully and has all the qualities that I want in a man? I was on a date once with someone like that... It was actually our 3rd date... he brought me flowers. And at the end of it he leaned over to kiss me. And I panicked. I let him kiss me on the cheek and left there as if suffering from total body burns. I threw his flowers in the closest garbage can and got into an angry sort of cry.

Now there's this guy... A Sagittarian. I'm Aries, so it's always a nice fit. I don't know his chart, but he is amazing as a person, as a human being. I apreciate and respect him a lot. Thing is... he didn't show me his picture until today. Got me to fall in love with his person... but now... I don't think I like him. And it's so frustrating!!!!! I feel like snapping myself on my face... Because I do this all the time, I don't understand why and I am desperate for this to stop. Since the second I sense a dude might like me, I start looking for faults. And find them every single time.
But thing is... I don't want to behave like this. It drives me insane that I do this. I want to be able to allow myself to love someone just so, not because, not in spite of... Just so.
How can I do this, please???



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Hera
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posted July 31, 2011 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just want to understand. It's easier to start changing if I understand the mechanism behind it. Psychology helps a lot and has answered a great deal. But astrology has always spoken to me in a very clear, unmistakable way... and I need to know the reason behind it.

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dysfunctionalmystic
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posted July 31, 2011 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the moon/nep on your south node indicates the things that can hold you back. I'd like longer to answer but I've got to do some work and I've got the kids breaking my concentration.

There could be something in your ideals about expecting others to instinctively know how you feel. there's something in there that says you are needing the focus more on the gem north node for your 5th house matters. You need more communication but of a verbal variety rather than the telepathic. Your moon neptune will give u gifts but you'll run into problems if you rely on them for your love life.

the looking for faults could again come down to them failing your ideal of a moon/nep connection. Mars in aries is hardly likely to surrender to anyone without a fight and you have the sun/merc there too. the moon/nep may be in fire but it behaves like water. There could be a bit of conflict between the men you attract and how you'd like them to be with you. A part of u does need a very strong alpha male type but the moon/nep needs a pisces lol.

You've got problems between doing what you want to do and conforming to the societal expectations ( mars opp sat/pl) issues of control are likely but especially around your beliefs systems or your overall perspective on life. I would imagine you really don't like being told what to think.

Your "problem" may simply be having an excess of fire rather than any aspect in your chart.

You're probably just honest with yourself, many people can settle down because they mislead themselves into thinking "it'll last forever" maybe you can't let yourself do that?

All I know, is that if you found someone you wanted to be with - you would love them. Maybe you are "fussy" or have high ideals but then maybe you just ain't found anyone mythic enough?

You have venus in taurus on your ic, you can create a stable and loving home for yourself and doing so will give you a sense of stability and longevity, but relationships?..... all that fire! Fire needs a mythic journey.

<< leo sun/mer(9th), aries moon(5th), sag nep(1st). Longest I've managed is 5 years.

and you call yourself Hera? wife of Jupiter (sag) and you have jupiter in sag, I wonder how conscious that was?

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mochai
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posted July 31, 2011 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Edit: Dysfunctionalmystic had better advice for the circumstance and felt like deleting.

I still like these books though so I'll leave them.
http://www.amazon.com/True-Love-Practice-Awakening-Heart/dp/159 0304047/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1312131950&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.com/Places-That-Scare-You-Fearlessnes s/dp/1590302656/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1312132706&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Way-Love-Meditations-Anthony-C lassics/dp/038524939X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1312132758&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/General-Theory-Thomas-Lannon-Richard/dp/0375709223/ref=pd_sim_b_ 14

Hrmm.. I also wouldn't put so much faith in psychology. It's improving in some ways but the emphasis is on covering up symptoms ie medication or the general orientation of most individualized therapies has a very low rate of treatment success despite the facade of optimism. Some are good, but they did a study with grad school psychologists conducting therapy vs having a bunch of undergrads of any major listen to people for an hour, and there was no discernible difference in efficacy or healing between the two groups. Therapists too often operate from a standpoint of fear or aversion, and you can't heal anything coming from that standpoint.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 31, 2011 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is that your chart Hera?
First of all what are your Sun aspects.That would be the father?
There is always answers to all questions in the charts.
I find quincunx's answer deep questions such as you are asking.
Before I go further is this your charts?

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Ami Anne
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posted July 31, 2011 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is the dotted blue line please anyone?
Thanks so much
I don't see any quincunx in that chart.They are the green lines

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amowls**
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posted July 31, 2011 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're picky, nothing wrong with that. Dont beat yourself up for not finding anyone special. You're not even 30 yet, there's plenty of time to start a family still.

In any case, when you're 35, your progressed Sun will be conjunct Venus. That's a sure sign of finding someone.

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Ami Anne
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posted July 31, 2011 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I assume that chart is yours. I am thinking low in water might make it hard for you to pick up social cues?Perhaps,you assess the man's motives wrong one way or the others.If you want to get at the root of your question you have to look at your chart with a very objective and fearless eyes. I don't mean this as a diss one bit.Please know that.
How does the low in water work?

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Deluded
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posted July 31, 2011 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deluded     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What is the dotted blue line please anyone?
Thanks so much
I don't see any quincunx in that chart.They are the green lines

Ami

Dotted lines are showing semi-square and sesquiquadrate aspects.

Semi-square is half of a square
Sesquiquadrate is square & semi-square

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posted July 31, 2011 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Deluded:
Ami

Dotted lines are showing semi-square and sesquiquadrate aspects.

Semi-square is half of a square
Sesquiquadrate is square & semi-square


Bless you

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bethcarliseh
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posted July 31, 2011 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bethcarliseh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im the same as you Hera. Anyone that I have ever been with, I am like, not really that excited. It is like, well I guess I can make the best of it.....

To me, everyone is the same. There aren't really any people who stand out from the pack no matter how different they try to dress themselves up as.

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Betty Boop
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posted July 31, 2011 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think it's just you.

I think people rarely fall deeply in love in a way that stands the test of time.

I am in love now.. but I know it is the only time in my life I have felt this way and maybe the only time I will ever feel this intensely.

Did you have any of the following - with the Sag guy? (close in orb)

Sun/Pluto
Sun/Saturn

Moon/Saturn
Moon/Pluto
Moon/Mars

Mercury/Mercury
Mercury/Neptune

Venus/Neptune
Venus/Pluto
Venus/Mars
Venus/Saturn

Mars/Pluto
Mars/Neptune

Moon/Venus conjunct NN or SN

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Ami Anne
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posted August 01, 2011 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Hera
If you want to post your chart in Personal Readings with your question.We can go over it step by step.
I need to dialogue and I do not go in a linear way.Also,I am gonna be very honest.If these things do not sound good then don't do it lol

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Hera
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posted August 05, 2011 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, everyone! I've had a very busy time at work and with the Sag and haven't been in the proper frame of mind to post, and I apologize for that. Your insights are highly welcomed and I thank you for your time.

Dysfunctionalmystic,

You are right about my Moon-Neptune. In fact, I was very much like that until I broke up with the Bull (which happened when Pluto was on that Moon and Neptune conjunction). I was highly idealistic, seeing love from a very spiritual, out of body sort of perspective and I did, indeed, expect people to know what I want and how I feel. I am not that way anymore. Post Bull I became a lot more realistic and definitely more direct and verbal in expressing what I want.

You were very spot on about this:

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the looking for faults could again come down to them failing your ideal of a moon/nep connection. Mars in aries is hardly likely to surrender to anyone without a fight and you have the sun/merc there too. the moon/nep may be in fire but it behaves like water. There could be a bit of conflict between the men you attract and how you'd like them to be with you. A part of u does need a very strong alpha male type but the moon/nep needs a pisces lol.

You're right. I like alpha types, strong, confident and dominating. The problem is that I'm also an alpha... and yes, this leads to conflicts and power struggles, during which I retreat into my Moon-Neptune bubble and think the world is such a cruel place... even though I got into a trouble of my own making.
You're also right about the control thing. I can be a control-freak. I like things being done in a certain way. These past few days the Sag and I got into a series of arguments and these issues you talked about were raised. In a way, I think he might just be what I'm looking for (at least in theory), he's a combination of alpha (which appeals to my Mars) and a romantic mystic (which appeals to my Moon-Neptune). But I seem to sabotage his every attempt to get closer to me... in vain, so far, because he's stubbornly pursuing me. All I did was cause arguments, but I couldn't turn him away. And I must say, he's gaining lots of points with the way he handles me and my inner demons.

My excess fire... Hmmm... I never truly related to that. Or being an Aries (aside from having a short, hot temper). Yes, all that fire does help me be honest with myself. I can look myself in my inner eye and stare at the darkness, I am well aware of my issues. I just don't always make sense of them.

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All I know, is that if you found someone you wanted to be with - you would love them. Maybe you are "fussy" or have high ideals but then maybe you just ain't found anyone mythic enough?

Well, I don't think anyone REAL could ever be mythic enough for me. It's probably why I go for unavailable ones that I can put on a pedestal and not be in danger of ever finding out they fall short.
I need challenges. I don't like things being offered for free. The men I conquered easily have shortly lost respect in my eyes.
And the more I think about it... the Sag has all it takes. He is very much a challenge, even though he declared his adoration for me early on, but being a strong alpha certainly has its perks. He doesn't make things easier for me, he challenges me to face my fears and, even scarier, my desires.
If I could only like him in person! We're set to meet on Wednesday next week. I can't tell you how scared I am I might see something I dislike and run away from this. Because from the looks of it, a relationship with this man has pretty much all the ingredients I secretely want.

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and you call yourself Hera? wife of Jupiter (sag) and you have jupiter in sag, I wonder how conscious that was?

Hahaha, yes. Well, I have the asteroid Hera on my Asc. And Juno in my 1st house. So yeah, I relate to her quite well. My Juno squares my Sag Jupiter, though... It makes sense.

**Thank you for a very wonderful and insightful reading!!

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Hera
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posted August 05, 2011 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mochai,

Thank you for the books. I will certainly give them a try. I'm sorry you deleted the rest of your post, I'm sure you had a good contribution. As for psychology, for me it works. I don't feel like debating or defending it. It helps me. But then again, I have an amazing therapist. Shortly after I started therapy I begun having nightmares about my issue with my father, even though the subject was barely touched. Those things were long forgotten to my conscious self, but I carried their burden on my back all my life. I like therapy, the way I'm having it, because my therapist allows me to draw my own conclusions and then we discuss them and set up a plan to fix them.

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posted August 05, 2011 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Dysfunctionalmystic that the combo of the Moon/Neptune conjunction in Sag and the Aries planets (especially Mars) is looking for something that's difficult to find. You're right that you can't put all the blame on the Unaspected Venus, but it definitely doesn't help things better when you believe you're seriously flawed to begin with.


I actually have Moon/Neptune aspect (along with Mercury/Neptune) and an Aries Mars too, and while I don't think I put people on pedestals....I have tried to find the best in the worst people in the past and it always flopped. Hence, I am very choosy these days too.

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Hera
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posted August 05, 2011 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami,

Yes, that is my chart. I don't have quincunxes in it. It's alright, the issues I have are all I can handle, anyway.
Lack of water... Hmmmm... Well, the thing is that I have 7 Fire planets and one planet in every other element. So I have 3 singletons:
-Venus (earth, who's also unaspected, angular and dignified, so extremely strong)
-Saturn (water, who's my chart ruler and I relate to him probably the most, so again very strong)
-Pluto (air, who rules my MC; not very visible from a shallow look into my chart, but I'm very Plutonian, so again a very strong planet).

So, despite the fact that I lack water, air and earth, I feel all of them quite well because the planets placed in those elements are definitory planets for me. I feel my Fire least from all elements, even though it is best represented in my chart. Probably because I have always denied myself its exuberant excitement.

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posted August 05, 2011 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amowls**:
You're picky, nothing wrong with that. Dont beat yourself up for not finding anyone special. You're not even 30 yet, there's plenty of time to start a family still.

In any case, when you're 35, your progressed Sun will be conjunct Venus. That's a sure sign of finding someone.


Uh oh. It's not that I don't think having high standards is a good thing, but I worry that I subconsciously sabotage every man who tries to aproach me and blame it on those standards. To be honest, some days I think nobody is special enough - and then I get angry with myself for being so arrogant and shallow.
Unfortunately, I don't agree about having enough time. I'm not one to rush into marriage, if that were the case I would have been married long time ago, several times lol. And relationships need years to develop properly before I could think about taking that step. So I'm running out of time and I need to get my act together ASAP.

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posted August 05, 2011 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bethcarliseh:
Im the same as you Hera. Anyone that I have ever been with, I am like, not really that excited. It is like, well I guess I can make the best of it.....

To me, everyone is the same. There aren't really any people who stand out from the pack no matter how different they try to dress themselves up as.


Well, that's just the thing, I don't want to settle for "as good as I can get"... Not anymore. It's not like I don't apreciate them at all, quite the contrary. Uh... I think I just have an intimacy issue and flip out thinking they're not good enough just so I wouldn't have to deal with that.

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posted August 05, 2011 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, Betty!

You may be right, that people don't love so intensely. But it's kinda weird if you think about it, since so many are in search of that life-altering, earth-shattering soulmate meeting... Perhaps it's too intense and we run away scared. I know I feel like that sometimes.

Well, the Sag gave me access to his chart, in an attempt to convince me that we belong together. And I must say, it doesn't look all that bad, his Sun had to be exactly on my Moon-Neptune-SN... (even though the arguments are quite intense and exhausting, Mars square Mercury, thank you very much). The composite is even sweeter, lots of Pluto trines.
Take a look at the synastry.


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posted August 05, 2011 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And the composite, because I think it's just lovely. Probably one of the best composites I ever had. *sigh* It would be such a waste if I won't like him.


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posted August 05, 2011 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Benedict Moon*:
I agree with Dysfunctionalmystic that the combo of the Moon/Neptune conjunction in Sag and the Aries planets (especially Mars) is looking for something that's difficult to find. You're right that you can't put all the blame on the Unaspected Venus, but it definitely doesn't help things better when you believe you're seriously flawed to begin with.


I actually have Moon/Neptune aspect (along with Mercury/Neptune) and an Aries Mars too, and while I don't think I put people on pedestals....I have tried to find the best in the worst people in the past and it always flopped. Hence, I am very choosy these days too.


Hah... we have that in common also? *giggles* Very nice! Yeah, truth be told, relationships are more complicated than brain surgery. Finding the right person (not the ideal one, the right one) is quite hard. Keeping them is even harder...

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posted August 06, 2011 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So a little update... The Sag is still aggressively pursuing me, sure I am the woman of his dreams. We're set to meet on Wednesday and I guess I'll see then if I really like him or not.

But I had this dream, could be called a nightmare. It started with two men entering my house through the window, me running away, at some point I ended up on a roof top and there was blood at my feet, but it didn't touch me and it wasn't mine. I kept running and at some point I ended up in a man's arms. It was a nice, protected feeling and I felt safe. I thought it was the Sag, but when I took a better look at him, it wasn't him at all and I was disappointed. So I left again, running to find him, confused. Then I woke up.

I hope it doesn't mean that he's not what he appears to be. That would really be disappointing, because I'm 75% inclining to give this a go.

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posted August 06, 2011 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol. I'm pretty sure everyone feels that way. I do, too. Don't worry. Every time I like someone I have sun conjunct venus with them in the composite, which means true love. But even though I do love them it doesn't mean that I'm IN love with them. Sure, I can think that they're immensely cool, adorable and oh so sweet, and can't stop smiling at their picture when I see it. But that still doesn't mean I want to be with them. I wish I could be friends with them, but that's hard when you care about them so much and are also slightly attracted, yet there is something about their personality that annoys you so much you don't even want to.

It's hard to find a guy you really like. But don't doubt yourself so much. You will meet him, and you will probably have a sun-mercury-venus stellium with him (indicates the most loving relationship of ur life in composite) and lots of nice synastry, especially a mutual venus-pluto aspect, oh and uranus contacts to personal planets always help in making things seem natural . And you'll see that you'll find that guy who you're absolutely crazy about. Don't force it. You just have to keep meeting new people. If you're not meant to be, you're not meant to be. Synastry never lies when it comes to how two people feel about each other. I recommend Moonit.com Grupovenus.com and Astrograph.com for free synastry reports

by the way, i notice it takes only square signs for me to feel like rushing into a relationship with someone. I noticed a lot of other people are attracted to their square signs, too. A lot even married. The sexual attraction is nowhere near as strong with any of the other signs as it is with me and an aries or libra that i have great synastry with.

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posted August 06, 2011 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh and ur probaby only falling for guys who are taken, because those are the guys who do have an attractive personality.....but that's why they're taken.

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