posted August 25, 2011 02:40 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Scops' sneaky ways r interesting to me; I have CapMoon,I am good at reading soul just as it is.
1st Decant of sign is first 10 degrees of sign. So,Leos born in July.

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Ooh, I didn't know that about capricorn moon, cool!

posted August 25, 2011 02:46 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
i'm a scorpio dominant. other signs dominant are taurus amd aries.

my sun is actually in taurus. i'm a scorpio rising tho.

i wanna be cap or aries sun. i have no air but i'm not sure if i want to be an air sign. one of my fave air sign actors johnny depp has a lot of earth so i dunno.

aqua is nice i guess but would be in detriment or whatevs. and maybe i only find the girls cute but it wouldn't work on me so much. dunno!

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You don't like all that Scorpio in there??

This is strange, see earth has always struck me as 'meh', I don't want to be good at all the stuff it represents, I have no interest in most of it. But water characteristics have alwasy appealed.

posted August 25, 2011 02:50 PM            

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Originally posted by noblefish11:
No offense to the earth signs, but despite not having much earth, I wouldn't want to be one for even a day. Earth is too dry and un-fun for me... but I have an Aries ascendent, so I guess I just have too much energy.

Hera-- I like what you did! It makes it really interesting to think about!

I really like Gemini, but I already have a strong Gemini influence in my chart, and any more nervous energy might just be the end of me. I grew up with three Leos, so I have no interest in being one.

I actually would enjoy being a Libra. Maybe it's my Venus in the first or my Libra Descendent that makes me want to
be one, or it could be my libra moon. I just like the air signs the best I think, though I do enjoy being a Pisces. I might switch my house though, the twelfth can be difficult at times.

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Haha, if any sign can proverbially be what it likes it's Pisces - if you can remain in the conscious for long enough! haha I mean that affectionately, I love all associated with the water signs, except Cancer -- brrrr!

posted August 25, 2011 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
You don't like all that Scorpio in there??

This is strange, see earth has always struck me as 'meh', I don't want to be good at all the stuff it represents, I have no interest in most of it. But water characteristics have alwasy appealed.

I think this may be a case of craving what we lack?

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it's okay. kinda gets too hyped on the boards IMO. i'm water dominant too but probably all scorpio coz i have no signs in pisces/cancer.

posted August 25, 2011 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Haha, if any sign can proverbially be what it likes it's Pisces - if you can remain in the conscious for long enough! haha I mean that affectionately, I love all associated with the water signs, except Cancer -- brrrr!

I know what you mean about the nervous energy, I think if I had gemini along with my virgo moon I would probably end up in an institution, where woould all that energy go? - to worrying, and working out more elaborate ways to hate myself, oh thank you for aquarian detachment, although Piscean escapism would be even better

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Haha, no I definitely get what you mean. I'm a Pisces Sun (12th house) conjunct my Mercury in Pisces. I do tend to space out a lot and I LOVE to sleep. Haha. Fortunately I don't have any drinking or drug problems, but my moon in the 6th forbids that. Plus my Libra Moon wouldn't want to look bad in front of others

And yeah, I really feel for Virgo Moons. My mom is one, as
are a couple of my friends, and they do tend to be very nervous people. At least you have that Aquarian detachment!

posted August 25, 2011 04:11 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
it's okay. kinda gets too hyped on the boards IMO. i'm water dominant too but probably all scorpio coz i have no signs in pisces/cancer.

i LOOVVEE earth! must be why i like the cardinals aries and cap. the pioneering spirit to build something concrete or be first. my view is definitely influenced by my earth planets.

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Ahh yes, the concept of the master builder, but of an earthly nature. 'Pioneering spirit' is making it sound a bit more exciting for sure!

posted August 25, 2011 04:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Ahhh but is that maybe because people are rubbish at guessing sun signs?

We all know stereotypes are pithy at best, and defining by sun sign alone could maybe be sorta like a stereotype, but yeah, not everyone is going to be 'typical', that's if 'typical' even really exists.

Water craves fire - makes a sense in a self-destroy-and-rebuild way, which if I am correct, is a Plutonion characteristic?

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posted August 25, 2011 04:26 PM            

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Originally posted by noblefish11:
Haha, no I definitely get what you mean. I'm a Pisces Sun (12th house) conjunct my Mercury in Pisces. I do tend to space out a lot and I LOVE to sleep. Haha. Fortunately I don't have any drinking or drug problems, but my moon in the 6th forbids that. Plus my Libra Moon wouldn't want to look bad in front of others

And yeah, I really feel for Virgo Moons. My mom is one, as
are a couple of my friends, and they do tend to be very nervous people. At least you have that Aquarian detachment!

How does it feel being an Aqua? I think it would be cool! Though I've found most Aquas to either be really friendly and social or really withdrawn. Thoughts?

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Ahh I can't do them impressive long explanations of my placements yet - very much a beginner.

But I will say that I have Libra Asc, Pluto, Mars, and Saturan, and couldn't give a monkeys what I look like! Perhaps my two placements in Aquarius (sun/mercury)is enough to counteract them, it being of a fixed nature ...
I suspect it is more complex than that, that's waaaaay outta my depth.

TBH, whether I am social or withdrawn depends a lot on how I feel about myself. When I am troubled, I cut myself off completely, and wander alone, when I am fine, I am running around seeing as many people as I can, and it goes on like this, the cycles determined by my mood and sense of self. I need to recharge regularly.
If I can't be alone when I need to I literally get ill in the head (and I pretty much have that need for a portion of every day - bang goes marriage then - oh boo hoo, sounds like a prison to me anyway haha).
It's a pain in the arse sometimes, inconvenient, but it really shows you what your friends are made of.
Those standing waiting for you when you emerge are special people, who accept you just as you are, and might even understand you! haha

Ach, all signs are gonna have their ups and downs eh?
I don't care what is happening to me - good or bad - it's irrelevant most of the time, because I always have a sense of growing, and that makes it worth it more than any pleasure or pain associated with the happening.
I think that's why I crave a Scorpio influence in myself, I think it's the passion and extremes that I'm drawn to, to drive me out of myself so to speak, to go beyond growth into oblivion, where everything is nothing and nothing is everything, and I can have true mental freedom.

That's another weird thing about Aquarius - all the talk of freedom. No one ever mentions that you can get trapped in your mind, and on a bad day, your mind is much smaller than the world.

But hey, I've veered into ramble mode, alerted by the snores haha

posted August 25, 2011 05:03 PM            

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Ahh I can't do them impressive long explanations of my placements yet - very much a beginner.

But I will say that I have Libra Asc, Pluto, Mars, and Saturan, and couldn't give a monkeys what I look like! Perhaps my two placements in Aquarius (sun/mercury)is enough to counteract them, it being of a fixed nature ...
I suspect it is more complex than that, that's waaaaay outta my depth.

TBH, whether I am social or withdrawn depends a lot on how I feel about myself. When I am troubled, I cut myself off completely, and wander alone, when I am fine, I am running around seeing as many people as I can, and it goes on like this, the cycles determined by my mood and sense of self. I need to recharge regularly.
If I can't be alone when I need to I literally get ill in the head (and I pretty much have that need for a portion of every day - bang goes marriage then - oh boo hoo, sounds like a prison to me anyway haha).
It's a pain in the arse sometimes, inconvenient, but it really shows you what your friends are made of.
Those standing waiting for you when you emerge are special people, who accept you just as you are, and might even understand you! haha

Ach, all signs are gonna have their ups and downs eh?
I don't care what is happening to me - good or bad - it's irrelevant most of the time, because I always have a sense of growing, and that makes it worth it more than any pleasure or pain associated with the happening.
I think that's why I crave a Scorpio influence in myself, I think it's the passion and extremes that I'm drawn to, to drive me out of myself so to speak, to go beyond growth into oblivion, where everything is nothing and nothing is everything, and I can have true mental freedom.

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Sometimes we are drawn by what we lack, sometimes by what we already have, but are unable to recognize, express or deal with most of the times.

I think you are Plutonian. I don't know much about you, but from the posts I read, I don't think I'm wrong. Maybe not Scorpionic per se, but I see strong Pluto in you. Is Pluto in your first house?

posted August 25, 2011 05:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
Sometimes we are drawn by what we lack, sometimes by what we already have, but are unable to recognize, express or deal with most of the times.

I think you are Plutonian. I don't know much about you, but from the posts I read, I don't think I'm wrong. Maybe not Scorpionic per se, but I see strong Pluto in you. Is Pluto in your first house?

I'd really like to take a look at your dwads. I wanted to see your chart in the thread you made for Ami, but it's gone. Can you repost it there or here? If that's alright with you too.

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Hmmm. Hera, you make an interesting point.
I never considered that what I might be drawn to could be aspects of myself I haven't realised yet. I just assumed they were things I lacked, and could not obtain - bloody virgo moon again!! (I'm blaming it for everything in the hope that one day it will just go POOF! in retort!!)

I haven't looked into the dwads yet, I got distracted with my venus aspects. I read today that having no planets in a house means you have to look at aspects to the planet ruled by the zodiac sign on the cusp of the empty house. So, I've been neck deep in Venus for the lats few hours!

And yeah, I have Pluto in Libra in the 1st house. Libra is also my Asc.

Oh aye, I removed my chart from the previous thread.
That would be cool if you could take a look - I wouldn't know where to start, but oddly enough, where I have started in looking at my own chart is the places where I have nothing - the empty houses - so 'lack' or perceieved lack seems to be a theme of mine atm.

posted August 25, 2011 05:47 PM            

Oh wow, first off, I was hit by the exact conjunctions you and I have. Like your Venus right on my Asc. Your Sun right on my Sun/Moon midpoint. Your Chiron on my Venus. My Mercury on your DC (1 deg orb) and your NN on my DC...

But that's offtopic. Honey, you ARE very much Plutonian!!! Having Pluto in the 1st, conjunct ASC nonetheless, is enough in itself, but it also makes lots of aspects. So you definitely don't lack it. It's right there in you, in your wonderful, thought-provoking posts that are FILLED with transformative experiences and strength.

Re dwads... Well, my intuition proved me wrong this time. I was thinking your Sun might be in the dwad of Scorpio. I was close though, it's in Libra. So is your Venus btw. Interesting thing, especially after reading your post about Libras.

What also hit me was that both your Asc and your Moon are in the dwad of Cancer.

The thing about dwads is that they're hidden parts of ourselves, parts we are usually not very aware of, but tend to express it in various circumstances. I don't know why, but this concept has been so illuminating for me, it's like I found a whole different chart in my chart, a whole different person in me, one that I felt but didn't see.

Anyway, look it up if you want/feel like it. Here's a link.
http://aliceportman.com/?p=606

As for empty houses, they are empty for a reason. It is said these are themes that you already have mastered in previous lives. It is the Universe's way of saying you don't need to bother about them right now, you need to focus on your full houses. But we, as humans, always seek to maintain balance, the way our body keeps our constants well, constant. So we keep on looking to fill the void and will continue to do that until we realize what we were looking for was there in us all along.

posted August 26, 2011 01:48 AM            

the irony is i later found out that i'm scorpio dominant, moon, pluto, venus in scorpio and what i hate in people is something i was fighting off with myself,,

im nothing like a scorpio dominant person, im super friendly, kind, transparent and truthful except for my emotions which are ruled by my majestic scorpio moon.

posted August 26, 2011 03:06 AM            

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Lol, it's big enough, no worries. Please stop fretting about it, size doesn't matter (all that much).

Oh wow, first off, I was hit by the exact conjunctions you and I have. Like your Venus right on my Asc. Your Sun right on my Sun/Moon midpoint. Your Chiron on my Venus. My Mercury on your DC (1 deg orb) and your NN on my DC...

But that's offtopic. Honey, you ARE very much Plutonian!!! Having Pluto in the 1st, conjunct ASC nonetheless, is enough in itself, but it also makes lots of aspects. So you definitely don't lack it. It's right there in you, in your wonderful, thought-provoking posts that are FILLED with transformative experiences and strength.

Re dwads... Well, my intuition proved me wrong this time. I was thinking your Sun might be in the dwad of Scorpio. I was close though, it's in Libra. So is your Venus btw. Interesting thing, especially after reading your post about Libras.

What also hit me was that both your Asc and your Moon are in the dwad of Cancer.

The thing about dwads is that they're hidden parts of ourselves, parts we are usually not very aware of, but tend to express it in various circumstances. I don't know why, but this concept has been so illuminating for me, it's like I found a whole different chart in my chart, a whole different person in me, one that I felt but didn't see.

Anyway, look it up if you want/feel like it. Here's a link.
http://aliceportman.com/?p=606

As for empty houses, they are empty for a reason. It is said these are themes that you already have mastered in previous lives. It is the Universe's way of saying you don't need to bother about them right now, you need to focus on your full houses. But we, as humans, always seek to maintain balance, the way our body keeps our constants well, constant. So we keep on looking to fill the void and will continue to do that until we realize what we were looking for was there in us all along.

Don't know if I make sense.

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Hmmm ... so I'm craving more of what I already have, I wonder if Mars Conj. Pluto has anything to do with that, many of Mars' aspects could lead to greed.
I don't feel like I'm being greedy though.
I do feel like I have to develop the darker aspects of my personality - I don't mean dark as in bad, I just mean unseen, unconscious - or at least get to know them,because everyone is essentially operating from their unconscious a large percentage of the time without really knowing why it makes us do what.
Not sure how I'm gonna get in though.
I think I've managed it in the past, but I went in ways that I wasn't ready for, I was very young though. I'll have to think about it.

That's weird all the aspects we have, how would you interpret them? Are they like a heads up that our personalities are in harmony?

posted August 26, 2011 04:40 AM            

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Well uhm .. I don't think i'd want to change signs for a day scorpio with leo moon and pisces ac..

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Oh yes! You sound just fine to me as you are

posted August 26, 2011 04:42 AM            

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"Ever fancied trying on another sign for a day?"
---Hmmmmm...for a day, I'd choose Gemini. Light, fun, laughs, beyond cute, twinkle eyed, not ruffling any feathers, the eternal butterfly. What I wouldn't like is other people trying to pigeonhole me or trap me, no thanks lol. I have Mercury/DSC so I know exactly what that's like.

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Do you feel that people would pigeon-hole you if you were a Gemini?
And how does your Mercury DSC explain this?

posted August 26, 2011 04:48 AM            

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im surprised how many people want to be scorpios!! years back when i had no idea what my natal chart was like i hated scorpios, not much of a hatred but i just dont like them (still do) they are eerie, pessimistic, difficult to understand, manipulative..

the irony is i later found out that i'm scorpio dominant, moon, pluto, venus in scorpio and what i hate in people is something i was fighting off with myself,,

im nothing like a scorpio dominant person, im super friendly, kind, transparent and truthful except for my emotions which are ruled by my majestic scorpio moon.

instead i wish i was a care free aries.. not thinking twice, nay quintuple times (libra) about everything.. just living day by day kicking a**

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Ahh yes, that's often the way off it - we are repulsed by aspects in others that we don't full embrace or understand in ourselves.

I am also pretty transparent on the surface, but I'm often afraid to tell people exactly what I see in them, so many have been hurt by this, and I'm not developed enough to be sure that I am right - in a logical sense, so it often seems to be the best idea to keep it shut, and stop being so arrogant!
I may feel I am right without a doubt, then I look at their wee face and wonder if it's worth it saying something that might hurt them.
Unfortunately in intimate relatiomships I can't keep these things to myself - that seems to be the ground where my intuition feels it has a duty to be known, but it's hurt so many people and complicated many relationships. It's much easier to be alone, but I crave the growth. Maybe I just need to find more people who are similar, need to check what I'm putting out there, because that determines what I am attracting.

posted August 26, 2011 04:50 AM            

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Originally posted by northernlad:
I'm a Cancer Sun, Mercury and Mars, Virgo Moon and Taurus Venus. I'd love to be an Aries for a day. I adore Geminis, but I don't think I'd wanna be one. I lack much fire in my chart, aside from Uranus and ASC in Sag, so I think being an Aries would be super fascinating.

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posted August 26, 2011 04:52 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
mars/ pluto= mars in scorpio abit i think.

you do sound more pluto conj asc with your last post. i have pluto in scorpio conj scorp rising.

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Oooh, PLuto in Scorpio conj. Scorpio sounds wicked! What are it's traits?

posted August 26, 2011 04:56 AM            

Should I be posting in Basic Astrology?

Is Astrology 2.0 for the more advanced stuff?