posted August 31, 2011 01:54 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
yeah all scorpios are squish. don't believe all that badass darth vader shchitt. i'm squish dominant afterall.

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LOL Darth Vader indeed.

My dad is a Scorpio and his dad was too, both tried their whole lives to not be squishy. My grandfather died a very troubled man and my dad lived 65 miserable years before he finally figured out that squish is in his nature.

posted August 31, 2011 03:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
HEhe Venus in Scorpio is ultra-squish in my experience. She values (Venus) deep, penetrating, and substantial connections (Scorpio). Just like Cancer (the pinchy spider of the sea); Scorpio (the stabby lobster of the land) also enjoys an exoskeleton. The sign may come off as severe, but that's a protective mechanism for their juicy tender bits. Venus isn't expressed very skillfully in Scorpio, because she is an object/aesthetic oriented energy and Scorpio is a pattern which directly associates with the intangible/hidden. A Venus in Scorpio often begins life feeling other people's feelings as intensely as their own. They then spend their adolescent years gazing into their own personal depths, seeking something which differentiates their feelings from others, and only finding more depth (which results in feeling a bit exposed and very vulnerable). Because Venus represents the way we appreciate (or energetically "taste") our environment (among other things), this inner spiral of "who is this?" becomes part of how they look outside their self. This gives them an x-ray vision type sense, which automatically questions the substance of their environment and feels through whoever/whatever they are paying attention to.

The "problem" is, Scorpio's subtlety level exists about half way between Cancer and Pisces. Scorpio can hide, but whoever they are stalking seems to always get a feeling they are being watched. This is because their x-ray vision actually opens a channel between the depths of the Scorpio and the object of their interest. Anyone with the slightest level of empathy feels the Venus in Scorpio "tasting" them and can see right back with equal clarity. Unfortunately, those without emotional sensitivity can go on forever without realizing a Scorpio has been skipping around in their guts. This can make a Venus in Scorpio person very skilled at controlling and manipulating their interactions with others (which is often used in negative ways).

The 8th house not only represents Sex, taxes, and inheritance, it also represents the genetic, cultural, and psychological legacy left to us by our ancestors (as well as our karmic legacy from past-lives if you are into that). Having Venus here makes her feel a bit more comfortable playing around in people's psychology, and that comfort translates to those who are willing to open up. Growing up feeling vulnerable can give Scorpio planets "control of boundary" issues. Learning to control one's own feelings instead of manipulating others as a safety precaution and opening up at other people's comfort levels (instead of just blowing the doors off the hinges) are two of the best skills we Venus in Scorpio folks could learn to master.

Sorry if I wrote a book, this Moon has been inspiring me to blab a lot. =)

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Hey Xiiro,

thanks for the great reply.
Although, by my own definition I still don't see much 'empathy and squish'.
Perhaps our definitions differ

posted August 31, 2011 03:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Hey Xiiro,

thanks for the great reply.
Although, by my own definition I still don't see much 'empathy and squish'.
Perhaps our definitions differ

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posted August 31, 2011 06:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
If you have the time, I would love to hear your interpretation. I am always interested in broadening my own views by listening to other people's perspectives.

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I just realised how contrary and utterly arrogant my response was! I am sorry.
Thank you for being so amiable about it.

I think my stumbling point with this is that the intensity of Scorpio seems to clash with 'squish' (you know, I can't keep a straight face every time I type that haha).
Empathy, certainly, but softness, not in my experience. BUT, I do not have much Scorpio in my chart, so my experience of it is purely from the outside looking in.
Really, I'm out my depth as usual, yet still bumping my gums!

I always felt a 'pointedness' in the Scorpio relations, but it's such a fine point that it can slide right under your skin, yet once it's in there it can jag - not necessarily in a negative sense, but sharply and shockingly, rather than softly.
Am I making sense?

posted August 31, 2011 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I just realised how contrary and utterly arrogant my response was! I am sorry.
Thank you for being so amiable about it.

I think my stumbling point with this is that the intensity of Scorpio seems to clash with 'squish' (you know, I can't keep a straight face every time I type that haha).
Empathy, certainly, but softness, not in my experience. BUT, I do not have much Scorpio in my chart, so my experience of it is purely from the outside looking in.
Really, I'm out my depth as usual, yet still bumping my gums!

I always felt a 'pointedness' in the Scorpio relations, but it's such a fine point that it can slide right under your skin, yet once it's in there it can jag - not necessarily in a negative sense, but sharply and shockingly, rather than softly.
Am I making sense?

Like I said though, I'm out of my depth, and I do apologise for my arrogance.

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No need to apologize, I didn't take your response as arrogant. I believe astrology manifests uniquely to each individual, because we all have different experiences to learn from. I would be bummed if my interpretation of a sign were the 100% ultimate truth for everyone. That would limit the functionality and usefulness of that sign. I can see what you mean about Scorpio (and especially the power of Pluto) being nonchalantly capable of strong, over powering, self sufficient, and even reality influencing interactions.

Hearing that you are a strongly air oriented person, I can understand a bit why our views of Scorpio differ (though it sounds like we are describing a similar Scorpio). It appears our view of the word "squish" may be what is ultimately different HAha. By "squish" I mean: Capable of being deeply vulnerable. I am starting to get the impression you may perceive "squish" to mean "a big ol softy". My experience of younger (or grown up but less evolved) Scorpios has been quite un-soft. They seem to be very caught up in projecting a hard, manipulative, and/or cool image to deter others from exposing or exploring their vulnerability. When we look at a scorpion, the first thing we think about is not it's juicy eyeballs, or the tender bits exposed between the plates of it's armor, we think about that spooky stinger of doom. This is how many Scorpios in my travels have wanted to be seen "Warning Approach With Caution... I could stab you", or my favorite, "I'm little... go ahead, underestimate me".

In that sense, I completely agree with your assessment. Scorpio is generally not like Cancer, Taurus, Pisces, or even Leo who are all capable of curling up with (or "around" in Cancer's case) and a hot cup of cocoa (alcoholic cocoa in Leo's case) and a loved one (or the guy they keep shackled in the basement in Pisces's case) and purring (like a walrus in Taurus's case).

Thanks for sharing your assessments with me, it reminds me of your earlier comment about Water and Air positively destroying each other. How has Scorpio positively destroyed you and how have you offered that experience for them? I am intrigued about the impression Scorpio has made on you, as an "observation for the sake of understanding and serving an Ideal" (Virgo Moon in the 11th House) person.

posted August 31, 2011 03:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
... or my favorite, "I'm little... go ahead, underestimate me".

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Wow, Xiiro, what great replies!! They should be posted somewhere, it's Scorpio down to a T!
On an unrelated note, I remember reading somewhere that Cancer is a Scorpio in a nightgown

posted August 31, 2011 04:26 PM            

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Originally posted by maira:

On an unrelated note, I remember reading somewhere that Cancer is a Scorpio in a nightgown

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Haha that's awesome! My brain adds fuzzy slippers to that image.

posted August 31, 2011 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Saraintheski:
I'm a squishy Scorpio maybe it's the pisces a.c ! But when people underestimate me I have to show them off usually just end up stinging myself and I usually enjoy debates and heated arguments unless they end up were either one of us gets really hurt . Someone once told me that I had this little punky attitude which I didn't really see or feel that I was giving off at the time maybe it was my lame attempt at being cool..

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posted September 01, 2011 04:18 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
yeah all scorpios are squish. don't believe all that badass darth vader shchitt. i'm squish dominant afterall.

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Damn burst my bubble Sand.
I'd take Darth over Luke any day!

posted September 01, 2011 04:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Voix, I just went back a few pages and saw your chart. Pluto in the 1st conj ASC, Jupiter in Scorpio 1st House. No wonder you want to be a Scorpio.

=)

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posted September 01, 2011 04:51 AM            

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Although, in the end, even Darth Vader turned out to be a bit 'squish' did he not?
Or, maybe I am getting mixed up with a spoof version ...

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mann i have no idea if he turned squish too LOLOL! i'm not sooper into the series. tho i love it when they show how a baddie is created.

anyways is this the scorpio you relate too a bit? tho it is mars in scorpio. and i think it's a bit much.
http://www.sanjaperic.com/2010/10/07/mars-in-scorpio/

i liked this comment tho LOL!

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interesting…. but we carry out our lives normally most of the time…

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posted September 01, 2011 04:56 AM            

ah yes, great description.

This pretty much sums up the relationship:

posted September 01, 2011 05:26 AM            

that also kinda sounds like pluto in 12th house. the one you quoted. kinda.

posted September 01, 2011 05:42 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
did the scorpio guy have mars there? iz heavy scorp something you look for in another? wouldn't have guessed due to the air sun-asc. would have though scorps would be too possessive for ya.

that also kinda sounds like pluto in 12th house. the one you quoted. kinda.

hey maybe fixed suns don't forget the first. the ones after my first also didn't feel as deep. she was a virgo and not scorpionic at all. ima taurus sun.

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I don't know his time of birth, but based purely on his date of birth, his Mars is in Leo, with Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Uranus in Scorpio. His Moon is conjunct my Sun also.

I don't really 'look' for anything in particular in another, I go by how my stomach feels in their presence.
I am however drawn to deep and intense people, and yeah, possessiveness seems to be the downside of that preference, but it's always worth it in the long run.
I can cut ties pretty easily, so maybe it is that that makes it easy for me to enter into closed emotional spaces.

I think I am attracted to whatever brings the most transformative lessons; to what I fear the most. And yes, entrapment is a big fear.
I know though, the more scared I am of something or someone, the more I will learn from involvement with it/them.

Yeah, it could indeed be a fixed sign trait.
My best friend is a Taurus sun, he's in his fifties (yes, we look weird running around together, but we don't care haha), and he too looks back with a wistfulness at the first woman he really connected with.
Said she was the only one he would have married and had a family with. (he still hasn't married nor had a family since.)