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Doux Rêve
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posted August 27, 2011 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Gemini Ascendant which I once read can make someone quite hesitant, probably because of the "too-much-thinking" and the "too-many-possibilities".

But yes I do have a Libra Venus and Jupiter.
I love them tough, they are conjunct and they are my saving grace! Wouldn't trade them for the world

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posted August 27, 2011 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahh I see.

I don't have any planets in Gemini, so I don't know what that feels like.

I have Mars, Saturn, Pluto, and Asc in Libra though, quite a whammy!

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posted August 27, 2011 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are they conjunct ?

And how do you experience your Virgo Moon ?
I have it. Used to hate it, but now I'm learning to accept it !
I kind of like it, actually

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posted August 27, 2011 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bears, if you`re still posting here... is BC TP??

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posted August 27, 2011 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Totally hear on you on the Libra marriage, but you should be prepared for any 'marriage' to an Aquarian, to not be a 'marriage' at all, not in the conventional sense, e.g. might be goo to forget about about the church, taking of name, signing of contract, etc. Although a pagan handfasting might appeal - you can 'marry' or commit for any period of time you like, like a year, and then have another ceremony if you want to stay together for another amount of time you like. Much freer that way, but also committed and 'official' for your loved ones, and a wee party

Personally, I think I'd get bored with another Aquarian full-time, I need someone to shock, and shock me, to grow with rather than reflect. I haven't gotten that vibe from the Aquarians I've known, I think we may be too similar in some key ways to be a compliment. Sameness is comfortable and cute, but if I wanted that I'd get a dog haha


That is a great idea to commit to marry for a certain period of time! I wish I would have thought of that . This is a great option, I am going to try to spread the word about this idea. I had someone tell me another idea and she was an Aquarius as well, she suggested that people should get married when they are old that way they know for sure that they have made it together and are not going to get a divorce at this point, but I like your idea even more.

I completely agree with what you are saying about dating your own sign. I do not date Virgos for the same reason. It surprises me how many people end up marrying their own sign because you are right its too similar and that will not lead to challenges and growth not to mention that too similar is boring.

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posted August 27, 2011 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah me too. I've found typical Aquarius and Leo energy to create an exciting mix, and I've forged several strong bonds with Leos. It seems to baffle those around us, as on the surface we do seem to be everything the other is not - but that's the point isn't it?

Yep, I fancy a leo moon or sun for a day


I am virgo but have leo in venus, mars, vertex, eros, karma, union, destinn,valentine and maybe more if I keep looking.
My chart is mainly fire, then air, then earth and then water (moon in piscis)

And yeah I am very drawn to aquarius and they to me and I think is because of all the leo I have in me and bec I have aquarius in the 3rd house making me very compatible intellectually to aquarius sign.

Its funny I loooooove Leos but I like them as friends, co workers. I think because I can really relate to them but too familiar to become a romantic connection.

and yes when I am with my aquarius guy everyone is super intrigued by our combined energy, like they find it interesting and want to know what it is.

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posted August 27, 2011 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nah, I'm amazing...I wouldn't wanna change a thing.
But just for a day out of curiosity I'd go with fire sun and some more air placements (those two elements are lacking in my chart).
If I had to live with those changed placements (e.g. in a different life) I could not do without earth. There is nothing more amazing than the enjoyment of the earthy, sensual world.
I would also like to keep my water moon and some Scorpio placements would be interesting, too.

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posted August 27, 2011 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Adam Kokesh is a bad a%&. Wow.. I'm impressed.

I always liked being a sag. I don't like my leo.. too much ego but the aqua dsc I like. I'd get rid of my moon opp pluto and saturn in the 4rth.

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posted August 27, 2011 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
I've got loads of Libra, and I just feel like I'm on a swing all the time, I am blaming it for this!

Do you fly to the extremes, always trying to find a balance? It's sorta hectic huh?
I would've thought Libra was calm cool from beginning, but they work hard to achieve that state. It's not all balance, it's the constant search for it, lol.
It's like the ballerinas moving in complete synchronicity and it looks so easy, but most of us don't see the hard work they put into it to achieve that level of accomplishment, that apparent ease. But you have to work at it cos that balanced state is the only one that allows you to breathe. (Libra stellium here )

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posted August 27, 2011 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how about a dumber happier more oblivious sign? LOLOL!

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posted August 28, 2011 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Are they conjunct ?

And how do you experience your Virgo Moon ?
I have it. Used to hate it, but now I'm learning to accept it !
I kind of like it, actually


Yeah, I think so.
I'm still learning to read my chart, but in the table it says that PLuto is conjunct Saturn and Mars. The wee numbers are Pluto 26, Saturn 22, and Mars 18.

I think the Virgo moon makes me bite my tongue a lot.
Witht eh moon ruling emotions I would have thought that it would make me emotionally conservative, but I think it only does this when it comes to expressing emotion - it's all there, but when it comes to personal emotion it doesn't come out verbally, I tend to express it more through music.
In keeping with the virgo though, I do have a very strong urge to serve, my emotions are very sensitive to others' suffering, or perceived suffering, and I often neglect to serve myself in favour of others.
I have a certain guilt about looking after myself as long as someone else needs me - this has led to relationships where I have felt like a mother figure to people.
I hate that though, it feels wrong, and eventually I feel I have no identity in said relationship and break it off.
So, I think it makes it a bit harder to let anyone take care of me (not that I need anything from anyone, I'm totally self-sufficient, and have been for years).

I'm on the fence with it.
I like that it seems to prevent me being selfish, but it also seems to isolate me from being cared for.

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posted August 28, 2011 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That is a great idea to commit to marry for a certain period of time! I wish I would have thought of that . This is a great option, I am going to try to spread the word about this idea. I had someone tell me another idea and she was an Aquarius as well, she suggested that people should get married when they are old that way they know for sure that they have made it together and are not going to get a divorce at this point, but I like your idea even more.

I completely agree with what you are saying about dating your own sign. I do not date Virgos for the same reason. It surprises me how many people end up marrying their own sign because you are right its too similar and that will not lead to challenges and growth not to mention that too similar is boring.


Aye it's cool, huh?
It's an old pagan concept that I read about years ago.
I've never done it myself, but if I felt strongly enough about someone I would definitely put it to them.
I'll never have a conventional marriage, it's a type of union that goes against what I believe in, and if someone needs that from me to feel that I love them or are committed, then they are not for me.

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posted August 28, 2011 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
I am virgo but have leo in venus, mars, vertex, eros, karma, union, destinn,valentine and maybe more if I keep looking.
My chart is mainly fire, then air, then earth and then water (moon in piscis)

And yeah I am very drawn to aquarius and they to me and I think is because of all the leo I have in me and bec I have aquarius in the 3rd house making me very compatible intellectually to aquarius sign.

Its funny I loooooove Leos but I like them as friends, co workers. I think because I can really relate to them but too familiar to become a romantic connection.

and yes when I am with my aquarius guy everyone is super intrigued by our combined energy, like they find it interesting and want to know what it is.


Ahh yeah, that's a lot of Leo!
I'm mainly Air (5 major planets), then Fire (2), Earth (2), and water (1 - unless you count my true node, which from my understanding is not nece3ssarily integrated as much as the others?)

I know what you mean about Leos being friends, I've never had a romantic relationship with one, although there does appear to be a physical attraction, it may emphasised by how well we get on.

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posted August 28, 2011 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Yeah, I think so.
I'm still learning to read my chart, but in the table it says that PLuto is conjunct Saturn and Mars. The wee numbers are Pluto 26, Saturn 22, and Mars 18.

I think the Virgo moon makes me bite my tongue a lot.
Witht eh moon ruling emotions I would have thought that it would make me emotionally conservative, but I think it only does this when it comes to expressing emotion - it's all there, but when it comes to personal emotion it doesn't come out verbally, I tend to express it more through music.
In keeping with the virgo though, I do have a very strong urge to serve, my emotions are very sensitive to others' suffering, or perceived suffering, and I often neglect to serve myself in favour of others.
I have a certain guilt about looking after myself as long as someone else needs me - this has led to relationships where I have felt like a mother figure to people.
I hate that though, it feels wrong, and eventually I feel I have no identity in said relationship and break it off.
So, I think it makes it a bit harder to let anyone take care of me (not that I need anything from anyone, I'm totally self-sufficient, and have been for years).

I'm on the fence with it.
I like that it seems to prevent me being selfish, but it also seems to isolate me from being cared for.



Tough configuration to have isn't it, the conjunction between the two "malefics" and Pluto.
I have them in a T-square, and the hardest part is the frustration they bring. Mars/Saturn is all about feeling limited, restricted, and frustrated. Blocked action, basically. Add Pluto in there, and things get even worse.

About the Virgo Moon, I totally get you.
My advice though, is: try to detach yourself from negative feelings such as guilt or overconcern with others' pain.
People may need your help, but eventually they are the only ones who can help themselves.

Also, get in touch with your own needs, even though it seems like you don't have any.
Learn to accept the fact that you are a human being with your owns needs and desires, and they can be fulfilled, and should be.

Don't let others use you, set limits to your efforts for others.

On the good side, Virgo Moon can give self-sufficiency and emotional independence, as well as rationality, common-sense and good reasoning abilities. Helpfulness and attention to others' needs are good qualities to have, but don't let them overwhelm you!

Learn to live for yourself and take care of yourself.
(You can get inspired by Leo Moons, for example )

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posted August 28, 2011 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very sound advice there Doux, thank you.

My isolation is what I give to myself, it's probably the most important thing I do for myself.
Without it I cannot function in society, and therefore, am of no use to anyone.
But, I gain strength from it, and I enjoy the creative moments I have in my alone time, so I do gain pleasure from that, it's not all for others.

I don't know, my sense of self is very tied up with what I am able to give.
I'm comfortable with it as long as I'm not overstretched.
I hear you on the being taken advantage of, but thankfully that's something that's highly unlikely, I can see that coming a mile away.

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posted August 28, 2011 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome.

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:

I hear you on the being taken advantage of, but thankfully that's something that's highly unlikely, I can see that coming a mile away.

^ That's a good thing.

And, I need my alone time, too.
I am not sure it's a Virgo Moon thing, but people drain my energy so easily.

It's good you have a creative outlet though.
I need to try that sometime.

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posted August 29, 2011 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyLibraWorld     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus. How manly is it to be represented by a bull.

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posted August 29, 2011 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Taurus. How manly is it to be represented by a bull.

Ah yeah.
Although, the male tarueans I've known have been quite poetic, romantic and usually very eloquent - not saying that these aren't masculine qualities, but IME they lend a certain femininity to the personality.

Your response opens an interesting question though.
I know the signs have already been assigned 'masculine' or 'feminine', like they have their element, but I wonder how they are experienced by others.

I'm Aquarius sun Libra rising, and find that I'm neither masculine or feminine, or both really, it almost seems that they cancel each other out.

I think the fixed signs could give the impression of masculinity due to their strong nature, and the cardinal or mutable signs could be experienced as more feminine due to their more malleable natures.

Interesting thought.

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posted August 29, 2011 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a fan of being a Sagittarius, but if I could trade out for a day, I would probably pick Aquarius. I have no Aquarius planets and an empty 11th house ruled by Aquarius. Uranus is in my 7th house, but it's in Scorpio which feels a bit heavy.

I have too much empathy and squish in my chart, I would love to be a psycho-unicorn-riding-star-baby for a day =D

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posted August 29, 2011 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm a fan of being a Sagittarius, but if I could trade out for a day, I would probably pick Aquarius. I have no Aquarius planets and an empty 11th house ruled by Aquarius. Uranus is in my 7th house, but it's in Scorpio which feels a bit heavy.

I have too much empathy and squish in my chart, I would love to be a psycho-unicorn-riding-star-baby for a day =D


Haha 'empathy and squish' - love it.
My virgo moon is in my 11th house, probably what leads to analysis overdrive to the point where I'm bleeding out my ears, and it's almost impossible to actually believe in anything!

So, where does your empathy and squish come from then, do you have a lot of water?

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posted August 29, 2011 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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how about a dumber happier more oblivious sign? LOLOL!

Haha! I love this.

I like being a cancer cuz we can have the self-composure and gracefulness of Libra without coming off as superficial or weak and indecisive, but at the same time we can also often go the other extreme and looka complete mess with our eccentric fashion sense and "couldn't care less about my appearance" ways. Not to mention, our clumsiness, awkwardness and shyness lol.

If i could be another sign, I'd be Aquarius. Just as charming, dimplomatic, and graceful as libra, but has a strong sense of identity (usually-not always, heh). And is also more playful and passionate and less attention-seeking than a libra. They're lile a Leo, but without a lot of the bad qualities. I'm already a loner, so it wouldn't be hard being an Aqua. But I'd sure enjoy the being able to get along with others and the detachment and logic part.

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posted August 30, 2011 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Haha 'empathy and squish' - love it.
My virgo moon is in my 11th house, probably what leads to analysis overdrive to the point where I'm bleeding out my ears, and it's almost impossible to actually believe in anything!

So, where does your empathy and squish come from then, do you have a lot of water?


Empathy & Squish List
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Sun/Neptune Sagittarius conjunction 8th House (sextile Pluto)
Neptune trine ASC/sextile DSC
Jupiter in Cancer 3rd House opposed Mercury in Capricorn 9th House (Moon and Saturn in Virgo)
Venus in Scorpio 8th House
Chiron in Taurus 1st House (trine Mercury/sextile Jupiter)
Pluto conjunct DSC/opposed ASC

How's that?

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posted August 30, 2011 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Haha! I love this.

I like being a cancer cuz we can have the self-composure and gracefulness of Libra without coming off as superficial or weak and indecisive, but at the same time we can also often go the other extreme and looka complete mess with our eccentric fashion sense and "couldn't care less about my appearance" ways. Not to mention, our clumsiness, awkwardness and shyness lol.

If i could be another sign, I'd be Aquarius. Just as charming, dimplomatic, and graceful as libra, but has a strong sense of identity (usually-not always, heh). And is also more playful and passionate and less attention-seeking than a libra. They're lile a Leo, but without a lot of the bad qualities. I'm already a loner, so it wouldn't be hard being an Aqua. But I'd sure enjoy the being able to get along with others and the detachment and logic part.


It's funny, many of the cancers I've known have been very wary of me, and this is on the superficial level.
Only once did I get romantically involved with one, we broke up a year ago, and I am still not forgiven! The notion that it takes two to tango seems to fall on deaf ears in favour of the notion that I am just a big bad wolf that destroys people's innocent dreams for fun. Complete ignorance of the fact that if I had statyed in that (very possessive) relationship any longer I would have either killed him or me.
Never have I walked away from any relationship so weary and used up.
But hell, I learned a lot, and I THINK he did too. He seems to be coming round to seeing me as around 80% devil child now, which is progress.

But anyway, my point here is that we seem to be attracted to our nemesis'.
I am nearly all air (yes, much of it is hot air, but I wholeheartedly believe in it haha), and 4 out of my 6 'big' relationships (i.e. a year's duration or longer) were with water signs.
We positively destroy each other, and I mean 'positive' in the opposite of negative here. They literally cause a complete overhaul of the personalities involved - except the Pisces, the seem to be a bit more immune to the transformational effects of these relationships, but not completely.

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posted August 30, 2011 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Empathy & Squish List
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Sun/Neptune Sagittarius conjunction 8th House (sextile Pluto)
Neptune trine ASC/sextile DSC
Jupiter in Cancer 3rd House opposed Mercury in Capricorn 9th House (Moon and Saturn in Virgo)
Venus in Scorpio 8th House
Chiron in Taurus 1st House (trine Mercury/sextile Jupiter)
Pluto conjunct DSC/opposed ASC

How's that?


I'm just a beginner, but I don't know if I'd call Venus in Scorpio in the 8th house 'empathy and squish' - I'd imagine that would be a very powerful placement, but like I said, I don't really know what I'm seeing here atm.

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I'm just a beginner, but I don't know if I'd call Venus in Scorpio in the 8th house 'empathy and squish' - I'd imagine that would be a very powerful placement, but like I said, I don't really know what I'm seeing here atm.

HEhe Venus in Scorpio is ultra-squish in my experience. She values (Venus) deep, penetrating, and substantial connections (Scorpio). Just like Cancer (the pinchy spider of the sea); Scorpio (the stabby lobster of the land) also enjoys an exoskeleton. The sign may come off as severe, but that's a protective mechanism for their juicy tender bits. Venus isn't expressed very skillfully in Scorpio, because she is an object/aesthetic oriented energy and Scorpio is a pattern which directly associates with the intangible/hidden. A Venus in Scorpio often begins life feeling other people's feelings as intensely as their own. They then spend their adolescent years gazing into their own personal depths, seeking something which differentiates their feelings from others, and only finding more depth (which results in feeling a bit exposed and very vulnerable). Because Venus represents the way we appreciate (or energetically "taste") our environment (among other things), this inner spiral of "who is this?" becomes part of how they look outside their self. This gives them an x-ray vision type sense, which automatically questions the substance of their environment and feels through whoever/whatever they are paying attention to.

The "problem" is, Scorpio's subtlety level exists about half way between Cancer and Pisces. Scorpio can hide, but whoever they are stalking seems to always get a feeling they are being watched. This is because their x-ray vision actually opens a channel between the depths of the Scorpio and the object of their interest. Anyone with the slightest level of empathy feels the Venus in Scorpio "tasting" them and can see right back with equal clarity. Unfortunately, those without emotional sensitivity can go on forever without realizing a Scorpio has been skipping around in their guts. This can make a Venus in Scorpio person very skilled at controlling and manipulating their interactions with others (which is often used in negative ways).

The 8th house not only represents Sex, taxes, and inheritance, it also represents the genetic, cultural, and psychological legacy left to us by our ancestors (as well as our karmic legacy from past-lives if you are into that). Having Venus here makes her feel a bit more comfortable playing around in people's psychology, and that comfort translates to those who are willing to open up. Growing up feeling vulnerable can give Scorpio planets "control of boundary" issues. Learning to control one's own feelings instead of manipulating others as a safety precaution and opening up at other people's comfort levels (instead of just blowing the doors off the hinges) are two of the best skills we Venus in Scorpio folks could learn to master.

Sorry if I wrote a book, this Moon has been inspiring me to blab a lot. =)

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