posted October 13, 2011 09:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I will try to describe what is hard for me. It is VERY hard for me to be comfortable with all that Scorpio means.
I have Saturn Retro conjunct the ASC,as I said. Saturn is making the Scorpio energy very hard for me to imbibe. It sits on the periphery and I am afraid to touch it.
I don't want to know what Scorpio tells me, and what I see.
It hurts me to see the laser light of myself and others, which Scorpio allows one to access.
This is prolly my dilemma.
Do you understand, anyone

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posted October 13, 2011 11:33 AM            

You sound like a sweetheart. Sometimes I'd like to be a teddy bear vs. A lion, lol.

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posted October 13, 2011 12:42 PM            

Regarding Sun Signs:

One of those arguments for Sun Signs:
I think that Sun signs can indicate certain things. For example – I worked at an outpatient mental health facility a few years ago, not for people with minor bouts of depression, but for people with Axis I psych diagnoses such as schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, bipolar disorder, etc. I had access to a database with all of the information of the clients in the county. One of the spreadsheet columns was for D.O.B. so of course, I had to run a report by birth date only (I removed the names) to see what signs showed up in the clinic most often. It turned out that there were very many Geminis and I think, maybe a handful of Libras out of hundreds. At first I was puzzled ”they are both air signs” hmm, that was what really got me stuck. I told my mom and being the double Cap she is she said “Gemini, the Twins, split personalities and Libra, the Scales, balanced”. Ohhh! I think I would have realized that eventually (ahem). But yeah, it was that easy and by Sun sign only. I know, I know, that seems overly simplistic and not representative of the entire population (it was only a sample, I [heart] statistics) but I think it actually is simple. I tend to notice things like that all of the time (Pallas in the 1st house), even recently, I temped at an orthopedic surgeon’s office and I noticed that most of the people who were on workers comp were Libra and Sagittarius, don’t know why, just the overwhelming majority.

Regarding the AC:

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posted October 13, 2011 01:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Gemini rules the nervous system.Maybe, that is why there were so many, there.

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See, yes, that too. I was just over thinking it, like "Mutable or cardinal? Both air?" whereas my mom, who only knows basic, observational Sun sign stuff, had the most commonsensical answer. I was shocked because I was sure it was going to be Aquarius (weirdos) and Pisces (drug/alcohol - because abt 75-80% also had substance abuse issues) with the most and wasn't sure about the least.

Again all, I was oversimplifying it, I mean no offense...

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posted October 13, 2011 01:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
No offense taken

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posted October 13, 2011 02:03 PM            

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Originally posted by downtomars:
Good, good! The Libra in me always has to smooth things out (especially since I have those Uranus squares). I am the Queen of the Disclaimer!

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Yes,classic Libra
Please, offer me any insights you have,if you have more.

posted October 13, 2011 03:32 PM            

When I was younger, about 15, I was told that I was born at 7:56 and I just assumed “AM”. I went around thinking I was a Virgo rising but the physical description didn’t fit (I don’t have the “small, delicate bones and even features”) and having so much stuff in the 12th didn’t make sense to me because I don’t really hide or disguise that much, especially about relationships, friendships and my personality. My best friend was a double Virgo and, although we were close, we were so different about everything. So about a year later I had to get my working papers and my learners permit and I needed my birth certificate and I saw that I was born at 7:56 PM which made me an Aquarius rising. I was really happy because not only did the physical description fit (“tall, striking, dreamy-wandering eyes” - in other words, it was more flattering) but the signs in the houses really made sense.

I don’t know if it is mind over matter, but I knew that I just felt more Aquarius. Even more than I felt Virgo, when I was walking around thinking I was a Virgo rising. It is my personal belief that, although the physical appearance attributed to the rising sign shows, the personality traits attributed to it are more internal. Like I stated before, no one (who knows a little about astrology) has ever guessed that I am an Aquarius, although I feel that I am quite odd. Uranus is also conjunct my MC! Still, no one ever has said Aquarius. Maybe we can feel our ascendant because we (as students of astrology)know it exists but it isn’t that pronounced in our outer personalities.

Take me and my sister for example. I am a Leo and she is a Taurus and we both have an Aquarius ascendant. We look slightly similar (of course – but she is short!) and that is where the similarities would end for most outsiders. That is because, even though I am guarded, I exude warmth, happiness and optimism and even my voice is cheerful (Leo+Libra, yay forever!). My sister is quite stern but she has a dry wit, is as cuddly as a cactus and her voice is like Daria’s or a female Ben Stein (okay, not as bad, I just mean not cheery and not animated). However, we are both very sharp and quick (she is way quicker though, she has Sun and Mercury in the 3rd house and Moon in Gemini) and even though we act differently about it, we tend to hold people at arm’s length. I am more subtle (a tease) and she is more obvious (leave her alone!) but we are still “aloof” and “independent”. The only reason I know this though is because I know about rising signs and it helps me see those similarities.

If I had to guess, I’d think she was definitely an earth sign and she even has Saturn on the AC to back that up (she’s a lot like my double Cap mom and Virgo friends actually). Me? People guess Libra 8 times out of 10 and Leo the other 2 times. But I have Venus conjunct the DC (and trine MC) plus Sun, Mercury and Jupiter in Leo and Saturn and NN in Virgo in the 7th house plus Moon and Pluto in Libra. I always tell people that they are “close” and that they know more than they think, when they guess Libra!

posted October 13, 2011 09:59 PM            

The initial desire to get to know people on a deep level (astrologically and psychologically) is certainly a trait of Scorpio rising. Especially if you find yourself taking on the role of "mystic" when you first meet people. A Scorpio rising person may be prone to use astrology or mysticism as an ice-breaker, a protective mechanism, and a way to discover more about the people they meet.

Your site (websites are often a way we showcase our self to strangers) is focused on your spiritual and mystical experiences. Also, having Saturn near your ASC can cause your personal rules to partially depend on how people initially perceive and receive you. I would ask if you recognize the Scorpio tendency to shut people out if they don't initially respect the personal rules you may have set up regarding new acquaintances.

To be honest, I would be more afraid of the Cancer moon than the Scorpio rising. The rising is the clothes you wear to the party and though our presentation is important, in the end all that gets tossed in the hamper. In Scorpio, It's the energy which causes one to feel the need to get to know the people around them deeply (while slowly revealing their own self based on their level of comfort). I would wager that with your Cancerian warmth and Geminian social ability, you may not be the person in the center of a crowd at a party, telling jokes and doing back flips. Scorpio rising is more likely in a dim-ish corner surrounded by a select group of people, eating something made out of dark chocolate, and reading tarot or just observing everyone's interactions.

If the axis of your chart were a singles ad, it would be a bit like this:

ASC - Sco
DSC - Tau
IC - Aqu
MC - Leo

Complex person with a deep desire to understand others, seeks stable hedonist with solid appreciation for each of life's beautiful qualities. Must be accepting of my need to pursue my own creative path, and understanding of people who come from abstract and unconventional circumstances.

posted October 14, 2011 05:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Anongirl
It is hard to know how one appears to others, so I cannot really answer.
I am gonna ask someone who has known me for a long time and see lol

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posted October 14, 2011 08:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Ami,

The initial desire to get to know people on a deep level (astrologically and psychologically) is certainly a trait of Scorpio rising. Especially if you find yourself taking on the role of "mystic" when you first meet people. A Scorpio rising person may be prone to use astrology or mysticism as an ice-breaker, a protective mechanism, and a way to discover more about the people they meet.

Your site (websites are often a way we showcase our self to strangers) is focused on your spiritual and mystical experiences. Also, having Saturn near your ASC can cause your personal rules to partially depend on how people initially perceive and receive you. I would ask if you recognize the Scorpio tendency to shut people out if they don't initially respect the personal rules you may have set up regarding new acquaintances.

To be honest, I would be more afraid of the Cancer moon than the Scorpio rising. The rising is the clothes you wear to the party and though our presentation is important, in the end all that gets tossed in the hamper. In Scorpio, It's the energy which causes one to feel the need to get to know the people around them deeply (while slowly revealing their own self based on their level of comfort). I would wager that with your Cancerian warmth and Geminian social ability, you may not be the person in the center of a crowd at a party, telling jokes and doing back flips. Scorpio rising is more likely in a dim-ish corner surrounded by a select group of people, eating something made out of dark chocolate, and reading tarot or just observing everyone's interactions.

If the axis of your chart were a singles ad, it would be a bit like this:

ASC - Sco
DSC - Tau
IC - Aqu
MC - Leo

Complex person with a deep desire to understand others, seeks stable hedonist with solid appreciation for each of life's beautiful qualities. Must be accepting of my need to pursue my own creative path, and understanding of people who come from abstract and unconventional circumstances.

How well does that describe you? I would kind of chuckle if that fit.

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Thank you Xiiro
I really appreciate the thought and care that went in to your answer.
Let me ask you a few questions,if I may.
Why would you be more afraid of the Cancer moon? I have never heard something like that said about a Cancer moon?
I will ask my others, after you answer this.
My moon has a 7 degree conjuction with Mars and a 6 degree trine with Saturn. That is all.
Some people say it is unaspected. What do you think?

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posted October 14, 2011 08:54 AM            

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Originally posted by anongrl10:
Interesting perspective!
I have Aqua ASC conj Mars.
I am not sure I have fully expressed my Mars yet.
My Aqua Mars wants to be an original thinker (I have achieved that) rather than engaging in sports (a more typical Mars in 1st house expression).
I wonder if I will become more my ASC once I manage to fully express my Mars, as you said above.
And then I wonder, what is the best way to express a 1st house Mars?

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Well you're over-analysing which is a great way to express Aquarius hahaha! Now we just need to get you to be a little more argumentative and fiery

posted October 14, 2011 08:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Then,I have a Scorpio Asc. I feel guilt with the power of this ASC because there is great power in it.
Do you understand the burden of the Scorpio ASC?
I have not stepped in to it and owned it. Hence, I am half a person.

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I have a disproportionate amount of friends with Scorpio Ascendant, it seems in fact common for Scorpio Ascendant folk to take an interest in Astrology and know a little about their charts also

It's a wonderful Rising sign, yes you have presence and magnetism but it's attractive and seductive. You can walk into a room flash that winning smile and catch people's attention. Wear deep dark vibrant colours, allow your interest in the esoteric to be known. BE the fascinating dynamic woman you probably come across as already!!

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posted October 14, 2011 08:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

Thank you Xiiro
I really appreciate the thought and care that went in to your answer.
Let me ask you a few questions,if I may.
Why would you be more afraid of the Cancer moon? I have never heard something like that said about a Cancer moon?
I will ask my others, after you answer this.
My moon has a 7 degree conjuction with Mars and a 6 degree trine with Saturn. That is all.
Some people say it is unaspected. What do you think?

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What I meant by "I would be more afraid of Cancer Moon" was that as a luminary, it would have a lot stronger influence on you in the realms of water themed lessons, than Scorpio rising (which is essentially our personal cartoon character). The Scorpio energy you said you feared, may be more influenced by your Saturn (who is traditionally known to represent our fears).

In my opinion, that is a beautiful aspect arrangement for your Moon. I generally give conjunctions and trines a 5 degree orb, but I believe planets maintain the relationship of their closest aspect as they apply and separate, In this way they regard the "almost aspecting" planet in the flavor of the aspect. Dane Rudhyar did a lot of respectable work with aspects and presented the aspect cycle as an evolving social relationship between planets. As planets apply, they move with the anticipation of the coming aspect, as they separate, they do so with the flavor of the previous aspect still in their mouths.

I would guess your Moon to be a lesson in emotional temperance. She personally identifies with Mars, he inspires her to find the same energy in herself. She emulates Mars and therefor takes on an slight energy of emotional endurance and strength (perhaps even a slight proneness to fast emotional reactions). Your Saturn is close to a trine, so your Moon views Saturn as an helpful friend, she listens to Saturn's counsel and takes his advise into serious consideration (which Saturn appreciates). This allows your Moon the ability to stop and take a deep look into what is happening in your emotional and personal life. Having "almost aspects" gives a planet the natural predisposition to use the close aspect, but also offers the planet freedom to make its own decisions. It is a very "take it or leave it" kind of situation.

Your Moon stands alone, but often ends up having to make decisions or learn lessons based on impulse vs deep grounding decision making/ emotional will vs emotional obstruction. Depending on how heavily aspected your Mars and Saturn are, I would wager you use the heavier aspected planet more readily.

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
ASC is the beginning,the core,soil one's planets grow from. Sun is the brightest fruit,Venus the most delicious one,but nothing would be like that should soil is corrupted. Understanding must begin with Asc.

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could you explain that without so much poetry. i am really tired of poetry when people explain the AC. I am taurus AC and I still dont see how much I have to do with it and what lessons i should take from the AC. physically i can see it= my neck is nice and wide, I have a nice voice, i am slow in movement, i like nature (but cancers sun like nature too right?), my AC has a sextile to cancer mrs-sun-venus (but wide orb)so, but any single person i know tells me that i dont like like cancer at all. they always confuse me with a gemini (moon in gemini). guess that having a stellium in cancer makes my moon the more important planet in my chart.

i am not stable like any taurus. i blow up in rage easily (not very taurean) i cannot think of somobody more unstable than me (not having fixed planets other than neptune in scorpio and AC in taurus)