posted November 07, 2011 02:47 AM            

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Originally posted by DayandNight21:
i had a closer look this morning
you have a mixed bag of aspects to your venus
venus conj jupiter is very fortunate
venus square pluto is difficult
venus conj mc is popularity in career/public at large but not necessarily at home
venus in leo is an average placement for venus of course it depends which house it is in
So maybe there are a few venus issues as in you could do with more venus points for better success but it could also be to do with their chart!

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posted November 07, 2011 03:13 AM            

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Originally posted by ProudestLeo:
Whoa...hold on a minute. Dont label me as a "desperate guy" who "tries to rape anyone". Ironically im the opposite of how you describe me, Im very picky (virgo moon) usually dont ask women on dates unless I see them giving me constant genuine attention (venus leo).

All I said was that I was frustrated that everytime I date the result is always the same, faliure before the start.

But that does not mean that 1)Im thinking of dating all the time or 2)trying to date as much as I can.

As a matter of fact this past week it was 3 different women who asked me out. Of course like always (and going back to the original issue), one of them has a boyfriend so she got cold feet about it, the other cancelled because of transportation issues, the other cancelled because of college work.

See? Its not that I try to date all the time, its that everytime I do there is ALWAYS SOMETHING before the first date that nothing can happen.

Im well groomed,ok looking, proyect confidence, have good sense of value. So that only leaves me with just 2 theories:

1-God for some reason never wants me to be succesful in love.

2-Astrologically all the planets or aspects related to love are against me.

And this leaves me with another question...How much longer will this streak will last?

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I feel is the northnode opposition venus square pluto and the vertex conjunct venus.......

Let me explain that both northnode and vertex deal with fate and timing.

It feels to me like vertex conjunct venus attracts love opportunities to you but northnode opposite venus square pluto takes them away from you.

I feel that when you have favorable love transits happening you will meet someone in spite of these aspects.

posted November 07, 2011 01:00 PM            

You are Scorpio rising. 1st ruler is PLUTO (self) and 7th ruler is VENUS (partner).

Transit PLUTO is separating almost 150 degrees, which ain't the best aspect. This will never really change, which means you will find it tough on the dating scene for a while to come. I have a very similar aspect and also find it tough. True, I don't bother much as I don't think some of these crazy thinking women are worth my effort. I know how to attract and have researched the psychological side of this little dance - I suggest you do the same. Get some books on the subject. Most of them will say this - Women can be strange creatures, and we know what type of person they want. Read this book, take the lessons in, and we will make you into what these women want. It's all good apart from the last part. You don't want to do much change to yourself and neither should you. All I suggest you do is to read some books and work out the way women think in regards to these matters, and not change yourself. Once you have a firm idea of what you're dealing with, you can spot the type of woman you don't want. Most fall into the same category - letting the man do all the chasing.

posted November 07, 2011 03:17 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
I will post your current natal/transit aspects so perhaps someone experienced with transits can provide further light into this as transits are not my strength.
Here is the transit/natal chart:

Curious, what happens when you try to reschedule a date with one of these girls? Do you persist? bc perhaps persistence is the solution...

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posted November 07, 2011 03:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Coffee:
Women can be strange creatures at times - saying one thing and doing another - quite literally. I won't say more on this as this place is full of women. Women who may be illogical in their reply, so will leave it there.

You are Scorpio rising. 1st ruler is PLUTO (self) and 7th ruler is VENUS (partner).

Transit PLUTO is separating almost 150 degrees, which ain't the best aspect. This will never really change, which means you will find it tough on the dating scene for a while to come. I have a very similar aspect and also find it tough. True, I don't bother much as I don't think some of these crazy thinking women are worth my effort. I know how to attract and have researched the psychological side of this little dance - I suggest you do the same. Get some books on the subject. Most of them will say this - Women can be strange creatures, and we know what type of person they want. Read this book, take the lessons in, and we will make you into what these women want. It's all good apart from the last part. You don't want to do much change to yourself and neither should you. All I suggest you do is to read some books and work out the way women think in regards to these matters, and not change yourself. Once you have a firm idea of what you're dealing with, you can spot the type of woman you don't want. Most fall into the same category - letting the man do all the chasing.

On the positive, months either side of May/June is the best time for you to meet someone. This will not change much as the years go by.

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Ouch this is painful...So Im destined for a very tough love life? The funny thing is, I have read countless books on how to date women, written by ,phsycologists,dating experts and even pick up artists...and its still the same result.

Whats even more painful about this is that I have friends who have never read anything, and are less attractive (phisically) than me, and they date so easy, its scary...

posted November 08, 2011 12:29 AM            

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
i tried reading the posts to see if someone already mentioned it but it's too long... neptune rules your fifth? with it in your third house, it would mean that your fifth house is influenced by your immediate surroundings so perhaps once u move country (if you ever do) or find yourself working in the travel industry, that a lot of your dating things settle off.. the only thing you might have after that though, is the language barrier and that's also a neptune in the third thing.. u can probably do really good writing when it comes to poetry or maybe even have a fantastic gift at writing lyrics! try your luck at that..

neptune can really have u playing the siren for what you want to attract so as far as what you say and the things your write, think about 'butterfly effect'.. because that's pretty much what that position can do.

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posted November 08, 2011 01:02 AM            

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Originally posted by ProudestLeo:
Ouch this is painful...So Im destined for a very tough love life? The funny thing is, I have read countless books on how to date women, written by ,phsycologists,dating experts and even pick up artists...and its still the same result.

Whats even more painful about this is that I have friends who have never read anything, and are less attractive (phisically) than me, and they date so easy, its scary...

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"(All in the same I usually ask out advice from other very experienced men to make sure I dont make any mistakes and to enhance my dating strategies)"
---Don't do this, be a man, learn as you go, make your own mistakes. I can read it on a guy when he is not sure which step to take next and it is not attractive.

posted November 08, 2011 01:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
I think being a leo is part of it, not all of it put a piece of it...

Leo's need love and admiration, and when we dont get it, the way we want its disappointing..

Do you think like this...

These women would have found a way, to see/ be with me, if they really cared..
when they didnt find a way, its because they didnt care enough, or go out of their way to see you?

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posted November 08, 2011 01:05 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Desiderate aspect with 5 degrees is pretty wide for an asteroid. My desiderate squares my venus and mars under 2 degrees and conjunct's my ex sun in scorpio.

I think its possible that people with venus in sag or venus in 9th have more luck in love when they pursue someone that is from another country.

I also think that having a lot of personal planets or luminaries in the 9th gives someone luck when they live in a foreign country. Jupiter rules luck and expands what it touches. Husband and I have composite Jupiter in the 9th and we have very good luck when we travel abroad. Last time we each got a ticket voucher each for $500. This will make it possible for us to travel to DR on December.

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posted November 08, 2011 01:10 AM            

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Originally posted by ProudestLeo:
I think this is a good idea,but for a 2nd or 3rd date.

Telling a woman "I have a surprise gift for her" on the first date is a little giving out too much for a fist date. And knowing my luck she would probably like it but then the day of the date her mother would get sick or something like that. Or simply she would cancel.

Sorry for being so pessimistic, its just that situations like this have happened (and continue to happen) to me so much, Its literally an expected thing, who knows how much more can I take.

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posted November 08, 2011 02:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ProudestLeo:
[b] Ouch this is painful...So Im destined for a very tough love life? The funny thing is, I have read countless books on how to date women, written by ,phsycologists,dating experts and even pick up artists...and its still the same result.

Whats even more painful about this is that I have friends who have never read anything, and are less attractive (phisically) than me, and they date so easy, its scary...

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"(All in the same I usually ask out advice from other very experienced men to make sure I dont make any mistakes and to enhance my dating strategies)"
---Don't do this, be a man, learn as you go, make your own mistakes. I can read it on a guy when he is not sure which step to take next and it is not attractive.

"But sadly theres literaly ALWAYS SOMETHING that happens before the first date that nothing can happen,"
---My opinion is she's not convinced that you WANT her.[/B][/QUOTE]

posted November 08, 2011 03:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake[/b]

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This is the best advice I have ever heard a woman give to a man! LOL..

...look who has dating coach potential!

posted November 11, 2011 01:39 AM            

Seriously everytime it gets worse and worse, more and more women show interest on me only to later cancel me on nothing.

posted November 11, 2011 02:34 AM            

I went to astro travel on astro.com and clicked San Juan and this are the influences YOU have under San Juan Puerto Rico:

AstroClick® Travel

You have clicked on the geographical position 66w06', 18n29'.

The following points are located at the same geographical latitude and have therefore an influence:

Venus in Zenith
Jupiter in Zenith
Crossing Saturn/Chiron/
Mars in Zenith

Venus in Zenith
at Same Latitude

More beneficial on the eastern side of the line.

These places are predestined for artistic and creative people. Here they are likely to receive praise, encouragement and social acceptance. Under very beneficial influences, this could even lead to being "discovered", and reaping substantial financial rewards. In any event, this placement is excellent for public appearances, presentations and successful gala nights.

Quite generally though, this influence can help you to discover how to enjoy "getting across" to the public. You enjoy being in the limelight, being admired by others and holding their attention just by being yourself. Your career can be greatly helped by this aspect. You develop your talents, enjoy an aesthetically pleasing and elegant lifestyle, and appreciate the value of a cultivated manner.

This placement strongly emphasises money, property and all material possessions. These areas lend themselves to every type of lucrative business and financial undertaking. However, a strong sense of ambition can tempt you to ever greater expenditure, and you could be drawn into a subtle form of competition for affluence and prestige.

Clothing, designer labels and luxury items become important status symbols and serve to reinforce your social position. There is a danger of placing too much importance on appearances, and you could become the victim of your own vanity.

Jupiter in Zenith
at Same Latitude

More beneficial on the west of the line.

Along this line are the most effective places for climbing the social ladder and succeeding professionally. You will receive recognition for achievements and are basically convinced about the course of your existing goals. Fame and honour strengthen your sense of self-worth and ambitious projects follow a smooth path to becoming reality. In these regions, it is advisable to make every effort to succeed, as there is no better place where your involvement is met with such good returns.

This also shows in the extensive dissemination of your thoughts and ideas. The best conditions exist here for an effective presentation of your products and creations. In the search for security as well as financial protection, these regions prove, time and time again, to be helpful and effective. You will meet influential and loyal people who are willing and able to assist you. You appear to be lucky in your dealings with authorities, legal courts and state institutions as well as international businesses.

Staying at MC places also serves to both discover new goals and conclude existing ones. Attractive offers and prospects of lucrative returns make the transition into hitherto unknown fields easier. Your decision to explore new terrain is assisted by your level of optimism and a spirit of adventure.

Crossing Saturn/Chiron
at Same Latitude /

Chiron's job which is to act as a mediator between Saturn and Uranus, applies primarily to the Saturnine principles along this connection. Old structures crumble and become meaningless. You want to overcome past limitations and are prepared to use unusual means to reach your goals.

You depart from old attitudes and lifestyles and are attracted by the strange, unusual and alternative. This is especially true in your job and in your approach to social and legal norms. Here, you turn into an outsider and loner who cannot find any satisfaction in your existing circumstances. You are constantly working on the fulfillment of your ideas and visions without becoming impractical.

Here, you have a chance to liberate yourself from old traditions, powerful hierarchies and strong authorities. The relationship to your biological father as well as all other father or leader figures, comes under a healing aspect. Old wounds may resurface, but only by dealing with these conflicts can you overcome deep-seated patterns of your past and begin to lead an independent and self- directed life.

Here, you learn to connect the old with the new and realise that true transformation can still occur without destroying the old. You become painfully aware of your fears and insecurities but by freely accepting these, you find the key to understanding the dichotomies and fallibility of the human condition.

Mars in Zenith
at Same Latitude

More beneficial on the west of the line.

A stay in this region directs your entire focus on your career, reputation and social success. Driven by irrepressible ambition, you are prepared to fight for recognition and to meet every one of your competitors head on. Your iron will pushes you on to make your long-term goals a reality. Tests or competition create new incentive and stimulate your motivation.

Masculine energy is strong here. Women move in a man's world and become emancipated from traditional belief structures and roles. Initiative, performance and a pioneering spirit are in demand here. The preferred work areas are in sport, the military and in the technical and construction field, where the main emphasis is on physicality.

These places are suitable for a new professional start and for a major promotion. What is needed is the ability to work independently, be innovative and self-aware. There is a high level of enthusiasm, even if further involvement is only limited.

Along this axis, you become aware of your intentions and desires. This is especially true about matters relating to sexuality. You discover certain predilections and are happy to accept fun and passion on your terms. You will undergo painful experiences if you attempt to misuse sex and use it as a weapon for power and coercion.

posted November 11, 2011 06:01 AM            

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Originally posted by ProudestLeo:
AI asked her out once again, and guess what? She did not even call me to cancel

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posted November 11, 2011 08:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ProudestLeo:
[b]AI asked her out once again, and guess what? She did not even call me to cancel

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[/B][/QUOTE]

posted November 11, 2011 10:46 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Maybe it has to do with location. All the astrological influences you have in San Juan are beneficial for career matters but there is nothing about love so maybe moving to an area where the location attracts love for you might help balance out those natal aspects.

I went to astro travel on astro.com and clicked San Juan and this are the influences YOU have under San Juan Puerto Rico:

AstroClick® Travel

You have clicked on the geographical position 66w06', 18n29'.

The following points are located at the same geographical latitude and have therefore an influence:

Venus in Zenith
Jupiter in Zenith
Crossing Saturn/Chiron/
Mars in Zenith

Venus in Zenith
at Same Latitude

More beneficial on the eastern side of the line.

These places are predestined for artistic and creative people. Here they are likely to receive praise, encouragement and social acceptance. Under very beneficial influences, this could even lead to being "discovered", and reaping substantial financial rewards. In any event, this placement is excellent for public appearances, presentations and successful gala nights.

Quite generally though, this influence can help you to discover how to enjoy "getting across" to the public. You enjoy being in the limelight, being admired by others and holding their attention just by being yourself. Your career can be greatly helped by this aspect. You develop your talents, enjoy an aesthetically pleasing and elegant lifestyle, and appreciate the value of a cultivated manner.

This placement strongly emphasises money, property and all material possessions. These areas lend themselves to every type of lucrative business and financial undertaking. However, a strong sense of ambition can tempt you to ever greater expenditure, and you could be drawn into a subtle form of competition for affluence and prestige.

Clothing, designer labels and luxury items become important status symbols and serve to reinforce your social position. There is a danger of placing too much importance on appearances, and you could become the victim of your own vanity.

Jupiter in Zenith
at Same Latitude

More beneficial on the west of the line.

Along this line are the most effective places for climbing the social ladder and succeeding professionally. You will receive recognition for achievements and are basically convinced about the course of your existing goals. Fame and honour strengthen your sense of self-worth and ambitious projects follow a smooth path to becoming reality. In these regions, it is advisable to make every effort to succeed, as there is no better place where your involvement is met with such good returns.

This also shows in the extensive dissemination of your thoughts and ideas. The best conditions exist here for an effective presentation of your products and creations. In the search for security as well as financial protection, these regions prove, time and time again, to be helpful and effective. You will meet influential and loyal people who are willing and able to assist you. You appear to be lucky in your dealings with authorities, legal courts and state institutions as well as international businesses.

Staying at MC places also serves to both discover new goals and conclude existing ones. Attractive offers and prospects of lucrative returns make the transition into hitherto unknown fields easier. Your decision to explore new terrain is assisted by your level of optimism and a spirit of adventure.

Crossing Saturn/Chiron
at Same Latitude /

Chiron's job which is to act as a mediator between Saturn and Uranus, applies primarily to the Saturnine principles along this connection. Old structures crumble and become meaningless. You want to overcome past limitations and are prepared to use unusual means to reach your goals.

You depart from old attitudes and lifestyles and are attracted by the strange, unusual and alternative. This is especially true in your job and in your approach to social and legal norms. Here, you turn into an outsider and loner who cannot find any satisfaction in your existing circumstances. You are constantly working on the fulfillment of your ideas and visions without becoming impractical.

Here, you have a chance to liberate yourself from old traditions, powerful hierarchies and strong authorities. The relationship to your biological father as well as all other father or leader figures, comes under a healing aspect. Old wounds may resurface, but only by dealing with these conflicts can you overcome deep-seated patterns of your past and begin to lead an independent and self- directed life.

Here, you learn to connect the old with the new and realise that true transformation can still occur without destroying the old. You become painfully aware of your fears and insecurities but by freely accepting these, you find the key to understanding the dichotomies and fallibility of the human condition.

Mars in Zenith
at Same Latitude

More beneficial on the west of the line.

A stay in this region directs your entire focus on your career, reputation and social success. Driven by irrepressible ambition, you are prepared to fight for recognition and to meet every one of your competitors head on. Your iron will pushes you on to make your long-term goals a reality. Tests or competition create new incentive and stimulate your motivation.

Masculine energy is strong here. Women move in a man's world and become emancipated from traditional belief structures and roles. Initiative, performance and a pioneering spirit are in demand here. The preferred work areas are in sport, the military and in the technical and construction field, where the main emphasis is on physicality.

These places are suitable for a new professional start and for a major promotion. What is needed is the ability to work independently, be innovative and self-aware. There is a high level of enthusiasm, even if further involvement is only limited.

Along this axis, you become aware of your intentions and desires. This is especially true about matters relating to sexuality. You discover certain predilections and are happy to accept fun and passion on your terms. You will undergo painful experiences if you attempt to misuse sex and use it as a weapon for power and coercion.

If I was you with these influences I would focus on my career and then chick will follow.

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posted November 11, 2011 10:55 AM            

Crossing Moon/Uranus
at Same Latitude /

In accordance with the nature of Uranus in this crossing, you are likely to encounter greater emotional disturbances and an increased tendency for change and rebellion. Uncontrollable and paradoxical happenings ensure unrest and interruption to your usual routine. Surprising incidents could come along to create an emotional imbalance. These disturbances can be seen as a signal for you to get out of your routine and act in unusual or crazy ways now and again. Try to start something new without knowing the outcome. Trust in your intuition and inspiration.

You have a strong urge to free yourself from emotional ties. Not that you do not want to get involved with others, you just like to leave yourself a way out. This is not a place that secures continuity. You waver between your willingness to adapt and a very strong rebellious streak. It is as if you were in a tug-of-war between your desire for freedom and your need for family and partner relations. Try to give both sides a chance - get involved but remain flexible.

posted November 11, 2011 04:12 PM            

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Personally, and I have heard this from other women as well, a lot of us can tell if you've read some kind of book on how to pick up women. Trust me I have had hundreds of men try to get me to date them, we know all the tricks, do not do it, put the books away because they are creepy.

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BIG on that!
It makes me wonder about the psychological 'health' of those who write these things... but then again, they are probably just in it for the money.