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ProudestLeo
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posted November 14, 2011 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudestLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
ProudestLeo why don't you post your pic and we can give you some feedback on your look?

I would, the thing is, I honestly dont think looks have anything to do with this. I've changed my look countless times according to the advice of women/experts/fashionists/latest trends ext and the result has been the same.

I've been from clean cut with very short hair, waxed eyebrows, and clean shaven to long haired, with a goatee (the manny pacquiao look) and nothing...the response result is exactly the same:

-I meet girl
-She gives me her number
-We talk on the phone for a few days
-I get very nice feedback
-I ask her on a date
-The day before the date, something always happens that she cancels (sometimes without telling me) and we loose contact.

Not to mention Im tired of seeing people who dress, act and smell worse than me and women date them like there's no tomorrow.

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posted November 14, 2011 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Join Lioness's club, S2BM - 'Sux to be me' lol she has a gang of followers already. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/210492.html

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posted November 14, 2011 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
perhaps during the talking stage before you meet her again you say things that they don't like or freaks them out for some reason without you realizing it.

I know this idea is crazy but the consistency of your bad luck triggered it. I dont think is bad luck, is something else.

venus square pluto:
You will meet yourself (the "darker" side or inner demons) through your relationships, and it will be critical that you recognize it as your own "material" and not project it onto your partner. http://cafeastrology.com/natal/venusplutoaspects.html

Perhaps your inner demons come out while you are interacting with them and they can't handle it so end up cancelling date. The solution would be to get in touch with your inner demons and learn to master them so that energy doesn't come off more strong than needed while you interact with chicks.

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posted November 14, 2011 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Not to mention he has Sun sq Mars (!), Pluto conj ASC (Was curious so I looked at aspect list again.)

Dude, there is something there that you are not seeing.
I agree w.Amelia, it's not them it is you.
And I'm sure they can see the pessimism, you expecting to be rejected.

Read this and see what you think,

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Sun square Mars
You may be confronted with frustrations and a lack of satisfaction with this aspect, partly as a consequence of your own attitudes and style of expression which often spoil your chances for success and fulfilment. You can feel a restless energy seeking release, and this inner agitation linked to strong desires can lead to an uneven and eventful life, resulting from the effects of impulsive and sometimes ill-considered actions. You easily become impatient, especially when results are slow in coming, feeling anger and frustration; your natural reaction then is to apply more force and will-power to attain your aims, but this does not necessarily create the effects you want. By tending to act without prior thought, you often sow the seeds of your future failures, undermining what might have been perfectly reasonable plans if they had been more carefully thought out.

You are a self-seeking individual, looking to impose your presence on society and make a mark on the world. Striving to prove your worth, you may find that by modifying your approach you achieve greater success. You can have plenty of energy and enthusiasm, yet one problem can lie in your ability to direct and focus these along positive and constructive channels. It may be that certain lessons require learning before your path forward opens. More forethought and planning would be helpful, minimising wastage of energy and restrictive directions, enabling you to plan ahead and form contingency routes to surmount any predictable obstacles. Patience is necessary, so that temporary setbacks do not frustrate too much, and you are able to rely on ingenuity and faith in your abilities to persevere. Being able to maintain your directional focus is also important, as there is a tendency to lose confdidence and change direction when you hit obstacles and disappointing results.

Changing your relationships may also be a key which benefits you, especially in consciously modifying any tendencies towards arguing, demanding attention, egocentricity and being temperamental. WHile you can be good company, your lack of tact and diplomacy is sometimes striking; ill-considered impulsive comments may not be appreciated nor any attempts to hijack conversations so that they focus just on you and your interests. You can react against any opposing points of view, often seeing them as a personal attack, rather than carefully listening to see if they offer new perspectives which can enrich your perception and understanding of life or a specific topic.

Sexuality will be a major focus of expression, and your passions will run strongly with this aspect, although there may also be frustrations and constraints facing you. These could range from a lack of a partner, to desiring someone who is unattainable, to falling out of love with a partner. An ideal lover is one who suits your needs on every level, and careful choice needs to be taken in deciding to settle down with anyone, or else you may discover that freedom has been restricted through an impulsive action. Right choices depend on self-knowledge; deepening self-understanding will reveal the type of partner who can complement you. Be wary of allowing a contentious nature to interfere with your intimate relationships, or else they could degenerate into an emotional battlefield. If your sexual energies remain high, and there is little opportunity for a healthy release, then to avoid becoming increasingly irritable and unstable, a redirection into creative channels may be recommended. Allowing sexual preoccupations to become dominant in the personality is also unwise and rebalancing may be necessary for adjustment.

With several personality modifications, your future can look more promising, adn you may direct energies into the spheres of writing, law, medicine, teaching, or military-style careers which could suit your temperament, although limitations on freedom may also occur. Freedom is important to you, so you may oppose any demands for commitment made of you, through work or partnership; and, until that issue is resolved, you may feel unable to take full advantage of presented opportunities. If you are confronted with situations which may compromise your freedom, then you react by being less decisive, as you hate feeling imprisoned in any way. Finding employment that allows you scope for movement and independence, and a partner that recognises this need, may be a step in the righ direction. Your abilities are present, but may require unlocking to become manifest, yet once they begin to flow can be highly transformative.


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posted October 09, 2012 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudestLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun square mars is a factor no doubt.

By the way, almost one year later since this thread was made and im exactly the same as the first post states...

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posted October 09, 2012 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps you are just trying too hard. Just relax and it will come in due course. You are still 22 years old.

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posted October 09, 2012 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Luminosity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Big Guy,

Stop pushing it and trying this hard. Your love will come into your life when the time is right.

Dating is not worth it unless its with a woman who is compatible with you and worth your time.

Meanwhile, continue being well groomed and always hold your head up high. Concentrate on bettering yourself, and think of it as you doing it for the sake of your future love.

Your confidence and maturity in of themselves will do wonders in attracting potential mates.

You're 21 and have a whole life ahead of you. This is an exciting time in your life. Its not worth wrapping yourself in frustration.

I had the converse situation. I had a lot of dates. I had a lot of women flock my way, but all of them were either not right for me or disappointed me to the upteenth degree. It only led to a whole youth and young adulthood of heartbreaks and heartaches. How is that better?

When I was turning 30, when I least expected, and when I was on the verge of declaring permanent bachelorhood despite sometimes dating up to six different women in a month (which was horribly expensive), my wife showed up. It was an instant attraction and we agreed to get married within a month. That was almost 19 years ago.

The lesson here is not to try too hard, just focus on bettering yourself and maximizing what you do in life.


What he said

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posted October 09, 2012 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshift     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Proudest Leo, this post has intrigued me. Have you come any closer to understanding? Do you have sisters or a friend who is a girl to get the opinion of a woman who knows you?
Or what do your man friends or brothers or cousins or whatever have to say on the subject?

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posted October 09, 2012 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudestLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by redshift:
Proudest Leo, this post has intrigued me. Have you come any closer to understanding? Do you have sisters or a friend who is a girl to get the opinion of a woman who knows you?
Or what do your man friends or brothers or cousins or whatever have to say on the subject?

I dont have brothers or sisters but both male and female close friends of mine cant find anything major wrong with me. They say im ok in all basic areas (looks, dressing, attitude) so they are as intrigued as me to find the answer to my incredible bad luck.

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posted October 11, 2012 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudestLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Perhaps you are just trying too hard. Just relax and it will come in due course. You are still 22 years old.

I hope your words come true but I still have to be a little pesimist about this because when I was in middle school everyone told me "relax just wait till you are in high school" and nothing. Then when I was in high school they told me "Relax just wait till you are in college" and nothing. Then I graduated college they are telling me "Just wait till you get a job". I have a job and nothing...

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posted October 11, 2012 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ProudestLeo:
I hope your words come true but I still have to be a little pesimist about this because when I was in middle school everyone told me "relax just wait till you are in high school" and nothing. Then when I was in high school they told me "Relax just wait till you are in college" and nothing. Then I graduated college they are telling me "Just wait till you get a job". I have a job and nothing...

Guy to guy. Plain talk.

What specifically are you looking for?

You can't be wife shopping. Or are you? You just started your career.

If you are looking for companionship, I understand. Love is nice. But love takes time and patience. Love dishes out a lot of crap before it strikes.

It doesn't seem like its friendship you are looking for. Seems to me that you already have that. And you sound enough of an outstanding guy that I don't believe it's about an itch in the pants.

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posted October 12, 2012 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello ProudestLeo,

I like what Lonake and amelia28 and others have identified. Re: venus ruling 7th, square pluto-asc, and I would like to enlarge on a couple of impressions.

Jupiter, all benign in Leo is quite a culprit here. His placement in your ninth, still within the critical 00* makes him very exhuberant, which can be unsettling to females.


Pluto is also major here and he is even disconcerting your asc that he rules, by sitting sneakily just behind in the 12th house. Pluto is sextile Neptune, natural 12th house ruler and natal 5th house ruler (which Jupiter also is).

Venus is the natal 12th house ruler posited in the 9th and also as said, ruling the 7th. So this adds a flavour of attractiveness, with a hidden agenda - which can breed suspicion in others.

Essentially, venus is acting like a lure, as in all venus-pluto dynamics, but because it is quincunx Neptune, and Neptune is conjunct saturn (3rd house ruler), this translates as 'the game is up'. Saturn has disarmed the not quite believable aquiesence to 'woman being all powerful', and given wind of the idea to those you are speaking with (saturn ruling 3rd). This alerts the female, that even though women are all power initially, venus is ruled by the sun and aspecting your ascendant, so ultimately this is 'yes, they are, but I'm more powerful still'. And because Neptune is conjunct saturn, and ruling the 5th, Neptune has had to kowtow to realism shining through in the chat up lines - reason being that Jupiter, also ruling the 5th, chimes in with some outlandish statements, that put women on pedestals, and give the impression that you will basically give the world to someone if they just come out with you and be your girlfriend (until you deem whether they are worthy of continuing as your girlfriend).

So the key here is that, shining through your date fixing, is someone who is being way too over the nice and good, and girls can tend to get a little nervous when a guy is basically promising them anything - like where will I end up with this guy; who knows what could happen - and this is strengthened by the venus-pluto square ruling the 1st/7th.

So the impression is, that they might just get more than they bargained for or thought was on the agenda, and they are probably right - after all something just doesn;t quite sound right to them. So you're saying yes anything you want we will do, but then they get this other vibe and think 'what is this guy really about'.

So yes, "Where is this guy taking me to' as they think they might end up far away from where they thought they were going. So they step off before hand, 5th House Pisces, Neptune in 2nd. Slipping through and out of your grasp.

Thing is, its true, you really want them, the whole of them, they will mean everything to you, but they think, well where is me in all of this, I think I might just be an item to him to serve him - ultimately.

But that sounds a bit harsh, I don't mean to bring you down, you have to be yourself - I have to go but might come back to it.

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posted October 14, 2012 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudestLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So in simple terms, there are alot of very negative aspects against me.

Now the question is, will this streak ever end? And if it does...when?

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posted October 15, 2012 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, its not that, I will look at the actual chart, and I will try to get back to you.

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posted October 15, 2012 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn’t have seen this, had I not drawn your chart.

You have an eastern hemisphere emphasis (very self focused and self-sufficient) leaving your western side to be dominated by a singleton: Mars in 7th.

This is your dominant planet as it pulls the concentrated energies of the eastern hemisphere towards the focus of the west (relationships, “other” and belonging).

No wonder having a relationship and being in a relationship are such a focal point. I was struggling to see why, with self-focused energies of Leo and Cap dominant nataly, would one feel such an unfulfilled need to share themselves with someone.
It now makes sense.

Well with Mars in Taurus in 7th, you have apparently put in a lot of energy and effort in finding yourself a mate. But it may have all felt like an uphill battle as with Mars, little is on “attracting” what you want but “acting” upon what you want.

I don’t know, I think maybe –as a female- you may be coming on too strong or seem to take too much “charge”; leaving your partner feeling pushed or rushed.

With Mars in Taurus, there is usually an attraction towards the down to earth, old-fashioned values type. But if Mars is in the 7th, you may come across too bold and too strong for the very people that you are attracted to. So what’s a girl to do? Change her nature? No

Have you tried focusing this much attention on relationships of a personal area to another area that is relationship based? Perhaps coaching a sports team, dealing with young people, teach martial arts/self defence or join a “rights focused group” that champions the ideals of the oppressed?

You could use the Mars energy to focus away from personal relationships thereby allowing Venus(in 10th) to attract others to you in a professional field? With Jupiter also there, you won’t have to do much anyways because the planets will be doing all the work for you.

Take this opportunity with the Pluto transit conjunct your Saturn, Neptune and Uranus- to think of a business idea that gets you to interact with people or puts you in a relations-oriented environment.

Just make sure its stimulating as a bored Mars can get impatient and fidgety when not challenged (that is why I suggest that it has to do with young people).


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posted October 16, 2012 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudestLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your reply.

So I should not "try" to do anything, and just let my personality shine in a professional venture and that will create atraction?

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posted October 16, 2012 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ProudestLeo:
I dont have brothers or sisters but both male and female close friends of mine cant find anything major wrong with me. They say im ok in all basic areas (looks, dressing, attitude) so they are as intrigued as me to find the answer to my incredible bad luck.

Well, just from what you posted so far i see something that could cause you problems, as in - your obsession with getting in the dating/love game - wile expecting things to go wrong from start cause of some bad experiences from the past... the way you express it, the exaggerations (100 times and counting) and would be even worst if it's real - u've been traumatized by those disappointments... and some of it - has to do with that - "it's what you set your mid on - and what you attract..." and that affected your self esteem - you're not emotionally drained... that can happen if you've been deeply in love with someone and she liked you back - somebody that give you high hopes for a future together... and at one point you lost it for some reason - if that happens few times... you get traumatized emotionally and don't wanna deal with love - if that was the case you wouldn't be hear ... it's more like the opposite - your gas is on full - and you really need some one to burn that emotional gas... cause you feel like that could help you in more ways than one.


...in terms of Astrology - please post your chart, i wanna get a clearer picture from this point of view and see if i can help you with some info on that...

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posted October 16, 2012 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Proudest Leo

Thank you for your reply.
So I should not "try" to do anything, and just let my personality shine in a professional venture and that will create atraction?

It’s not about doing “something” or doing “nothing” , but rather “releasing”. And I know it sounds really vague so let me explain

My sister has a Stellium in the 7th house with Uranus, Neptune and Saturn all there. And although, in this case, it may seem that she has a plethora of natal positions that you do not have, it provides similar issues.

In her case, relationships defined her; she would give of herself completely, surrendering her all to be with someone and concentrate all her attention on the “other”. Eventually, of course, she came across too “invested” and too ‘intense” for the very guys she was giving her all to and so her track record with long-term commitment is less than pleasing.

So I told her that maybe she should focus her energy on something that is also relations-encapsulating, but can be measured and controlled. In that way she can focus her attention on that and allow other things to just “be”.

Luckily, she already works as a consultant for a bank (a 7th house career) and she deals with clients on an everyday basis. She decided to focus on building and shaping the relationships she has with them and keep relations a little more intimate.

Eventually, she was so successful in this that people used to ask for her personally to assist them. She quickly became an asset to the branch she worked in and her popularity grew (this was 2 years ago).

With all the attention focused away from her love life, she said that she still felt lonely- but not like before: That before, it was like she was going to die if she wasn’t with someone or was not in any type of involvement.

Now her cup runneth over. She has excelled so much at her work that men are leaving numbers on their registration forms and even co-workers want to get to know her a little more. Now she has the opposite problem; choosing a mate.

Just take your time and focus on the things that you can control. You can’t control attraction, just enhance yourself as much as you can and let things “be”. Just let things “be”

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posted October 16, 2012 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudestLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Well, just from what you posted so far i see something that could cause you problems, as in - your obsession with getting in the dating/love game - wile expecting things to go wrong from start cause of some bad experiences from the past... the way you express it, the exaggerations (100 times and counting) and would be even worst if it's real - u've been traumatized by those disappointments... and some of it - has to do with that - "it's what you set your mid on - and what you attract..." and that affected your self esteem - you're not emotionally drained... that can happen if you've been deeply in love with someone and she liked you back - somebody that give you high hopes for a future together... and at one point you lost it for some reason - if that happens few times... you get traumatized emotionally and don't wanna deal with love - if that was the case you wouldn't be hear ... it's more like the opposite - your gas is on full - and you really need some one to burn that emotional gas... cause you feel like that could help you in more ways than one.


...in terms of Astrology - please post your chart, i wanna get a clearer picture from this point of view and see if i can help you with some info on that...


Thats the thing, im not exaggerating, the whole "I've tried to date 100 women unsuccesfully" is actually true. The thing is since it has not happened to most people thus making it hard to belive.

And I posted my birth chart in earlier posts.

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posted October 17, 2012 05:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ProudestLeo:
Thats the thing, im not exaggerating, the whole "I've tried to date 100 women unsuccesfully" is actually true. The thing is since it has not happened to most people thus making it hard to belive.

And I posted my birth chart in earlier posts.


can't find it... http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi - i need the one from here (the graphical chart image).

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posted October 17, 2012 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudestLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
can't find it... http://www.astro.com/cgi/ade.cgi - i need the one from here (the graphical chart image).



http://www.astro.com/tmpd/cf87filemY3bih-u1350479779/astro_w2gw_01_ej_hp.47798.4591.gif

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posted October 17, 2012 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see...

You have Pluto in Scorpio/House 12 in conjunction with your Ascendant... the contact you make with others is established mainly thru our Ascendant - that's our public Mask and cause of that placement - your dates can sense a "hidden/black vibe from you" - you don't seem trustworthy... luckily for you - we live in the age of the internet...

- so, my advice: "try to form a relation online" and "build it" - open to some girls that open-up to you and go from there and only after months of shared secrets and aspects of your personal life - at a point where you two practically know each-other, only then move to this step... you have to earn their trust... your current friends/relatives "got used to you" - since you were place in their life... so it's normal for them to feel different - cause they know some things about you beyond your public image (Asc) beyond your public drives...

....

... but that's just one part... next...

Venus square Ascendant - if you want others to like you, first you have to like yourself - and your appearance seems to be a challenging part for you... you probably dabbled with concerns related to your appearance for some time and still unsure of the way you look or if other made you compliments wile trying to be nice - a insecurity which you have to surpass.

Mars opposition Ascendant - relationships are about compromise and with this placement - you need to learn about compromise and self control, even before getting in a relationship... cause again - you send a vibe as someone who's hard to get along with on top of appearing untrustworthy... basically - you have to give without expecting to receive something in return... as in show attention for a person, show that you're interested in her well-being - but don't expect her to feel the same - just cause you're doing that (which is a compromise u have to make)...

House 5 falls in Pisces and manifests in House 2 Sagittarius (where Neptune is placed)- and that's related to your "attraction" - wile your expectations can be seen in house 11 which falls in Libra and manifests in Leo House 9 where Venus is placed...

- the money you make in life - ur self worth and your love are strongly connected this part - since house 2 falls in Sagittarius and it's manifested in House 9 where Jupiter is placed (that's house of Sagittarius/Jupiter) - and that in Leo - which is the center of your world... if i put this parts together - you might not be ready for love at your Age... yes - love can happen in a foreign country or with a foreigner - but at time where you've expanded more - at a time when you won't have problem with self worth - and at the age of 21 you seem to young to achieve this things... unless you're one of those rare people that already did - but that's like 1 in 10 millions... so, maybe you are - only u know for sure (and those that know you).

What are you studying - in what area you're specializing?

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posted November 24, 2012 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudestLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all I would like to wholeheartedly thank everybody who has helped me in here. To answer the question above, I'm an actor on a local tv series. Wich makes me feel even worse because, when I started being an actor I started with the mentality of "Im gonna be on TV so my opportunities with women will increase dramatically" And they are exactly the same, at 0.

Having said that I have a question just out of curiosity...

Is there a way to astrologically know WHEN im going to find love?

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posted November 25, 2012 06:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astrofan123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel that you need to be more laid back with dating. Instead of pursuing love/relationship, pursue friendship instead. Go out with your current friends more, let them introduce you to female friends and just have fun. Instead of pressure of looking good and say the right things when dating, you just be your casual self as friends. Give the women time to know you, more than your dating site profile, more than your TV persona. Let them see you when you don't look your best, when you do stupid things, when you are playful and fun. Instead of going for fancy dinner, learn to cook and invite them to your place. Do things at their speed, not yours. If they slow to respond, don't make it a big deal. Give yourself time to know them too.
As in transit, I don't look at your chart, there is enough astrology info here for you anyway. some transits might bring more opportunities, but if you miss them, or if you don't do it right, you'll be back at 0.
I'm Leo sun Scorp rising too. Gemini moon, Virgo venus. all the best

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posted November 26, 2012 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProudestLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats preety much what I do and nothing...

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