posted November 10, 2011 09:25 PM            

lol....?

posted November 10, 2011 09:26 PM            

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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
I think that is interesting as well. I used to wonder about that and assume I'd get Extroverted but I never did. I've consistently been INTJ and occasionally INTP. Interesting and my whole chart is masculine signs. It contrasts the logic of astrology which is fascinating and it's still accurate.

Redscorp it's funny every time I take one of these specific tests I answer honestly but I'm thinking 'I wonder what I'm going to get this time' pessimistically and alas I get the same answer again . I give up I'm an INTJ!

I agree that the test is "rare" Downtomars. It's pretty accurate if it's consistent.

INTJ actually reminds me of an Aquarius.

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posted November 11, 2011 01:13 AM            

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Originally posted by starfox:
INFJ...

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me too and I always have been an INFJ (used to be more E than I but it was always a close call for me)

we're only 3% of the population so I consider this a compliment

posted November 11, 2011 05:18 AM            

ENFPs are both "idea"-people and "people"-people, who see everyone and everything as part of a cosmic whole. They want to both help and to be liked and admired by other people, on both an individual and a humanitarian level. This is rarely a problem for the ENFP, as they are outgoing and warm, and genuinely like people. Some ENFPs have a great deal of zany charm, which can ingratiate them to more stodgy types in spite of their unconventionality.

ENFPs often have strong, if sometimes surprising, values and viewpoints. They tend to try to use their social skills and contacts to persuade others gently (though enthusiastically) of the rightness of these views; this sometimes results in the ENFP neglecting their nearest and dearest while caught up their efforts to change the world.

ENFPs can be the warmest, kindest, and most sympathetic of mates; affectionate, demonstrative, and spontaneous. Many in relationships with an ENFP literally say, "They light up my life." But there is usually a trade-off: the partner must be willing to deal with the practical and financial aspects of the relationship, and the ENFP must be allowed the freedom to follow their latest path, whatever that entails.

For some ENFPs, relationships can be seriously tested by their short attention spans and emotional needs. They are easily intrigued and distracted by new friends and acquaintances, forgetting their older and more familiar emotional ties for long stretches at a time. And the less mature ENFP may need to feel they’re the constant center of attention, to confirm their image of themselves as a wonderful and fascinating person.

In the workplace, ENFPs are pleasant and friendly, and interact in a positive and creative manner with both their co-workers and the public. ENFPs are also a major asset in brainstorming sessions; follow-through on projects can be a problem, however. ENFPs do get distracted, especially if another interesting issue comes along. They also tend towards procrastination, and dislike performing small, uninteresting tasks. ENFPs are most productive when working in a group with a few Js to handle the details and the deadlines.
Extraverted iNtuitive Feeling Perceiving

by Joe Butt

ENFPs are friendly folks. Most are really enjoyable people. Some of the most soft-hearted people are ENFPs.

ENFPs have what some call a "silly switch." They can be intellectual, serious, all business for a while, but whenever they get the chance, they flip that switch and become CAPTAIN WILDCHILD, the scourge of the swimming pool, ticklers par excellence. Som etimes they may even appear intoxicated when the "switch" is flipped.

One study has shown that ENFPs are significantly overrepresented in psychodrama. Most have a natural propensity for role-playing and acting.

ENFPs like to tell funny stories, especially about their friends. This penchant may be why many are attracted to journalism. I kid one of my ENFP friends that if I want the sixth fleet to know something, I'll just tell him.

ENFPs are global learners. Close enough is satisfactory to the ENFP, which may unnerve more precise thinking types, especially with such things as piano practice ("three quarter notes or four ... what's the difference?") Amazingly, some ENFPs are adept at exacting disciplines such as mathematics.

Friends are what life is about to ENFPs, moreso even than the other NFs. They hold up their end of the relationship, sometimes being victimized by less caring individuals. ENFPs are energized by being around people. Some have real difficulty being alone , especially on a regular basis.

One ENFP colleague, a social worker, had such tremendous interpersonal skills that she put her interviewers at ease during her own job interview. She had the ability to make strangers feel like old friends.

posted November 11, 2011 07:50 AM            

ENFJ type description by D.Keirsey
ENFJ Identify Your Career with Jung Career Indicator™ ENFJ Famous Personalities
ENFJ type description by J. Butt and M.M. Heiss

Qualitative analysis of your type formula

You are:
slightly expressed extravert
very expressed intuitive personality
moderately expressed feeling personality
moderately expressed judging personality

ENFJ type description by D.Keirsey- Teacher

Counseling
Psychology
Education
Management
Management
Politics
Science/Technical
Science
Computer Programming
Public Health
Physician
Famous people of your particular type
Ronald Reagan, Pope John Paul II, Nick Nolte, Tony Blair, Katharine Graham
http://typelogic.com/enfj.html

"The first shall be last"

Famous ENFJs:
David, King of Israel
U.S. Presidents:
Abraham Lincoln
Ronald Reagan
Barack Obama

2 republicans and a liberal???

William Cullen Bryant, poet
Abraham Maslow, psychologist and proponent of self-actualization
Ross Perot
Sean Connery
Elizabeth Dole
Francois Mitterand
Dick Van Dyke
Andy Griffith
James Garner
William Aramony, former president of United Way
Gene Hackman (Superman, Antz)
Dennis Hopper (Speed)
Brenda Vaccaro
Craig T. Nelson (Coach)
Diane Sawyer (Good Morning America)
Randy Quaid (Bye Bye, Love; Independence Day)
Tommy Lee Jones (The Fugitive)
Kirstie Alley ("Cheers," Look Who's Talking movies)
Michael Jordan, NBA basketball player
Johnny Depp (Pirates of the Caribbean)
Oprah Winfrey
Bob Saget America's Funniest Home Videos, Full House
Julia Louis-Dreyfus ("Seinfeld")
Ben Stiller (The Royal Tenenbaums)
Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts quarterback
Matthew McConaughey (The Wedding Planner)
Pete Sampras, Tennis Champion
Lauren Graham ("Gilmore Girls")
Ben Affleck (The Sum Of All Fears)
John Cusack (High Fidelity)

posted November 11, 2011 11:32 AM            

"Architects need not be thought of as only interested in drawing blueprints for buildings or roads or bridges. They are the master designers of all kinds of theoretical systems, including school curricula, corporate strategies, and new technologies. For Architects, the world exists primarily to be analyzed, understood, explained - and re-designed. External reality in itself is unimportant, little more than raw material to be organized into structural models. What is important for Architects is that they grasp fundamental principles and natural laws, and that their designs are elegant, that is, efficient and coherent.

Architects are rare - maybe one percent of the population - and show the greatest precision in thought and speech of all the types. They tend to see distinctions and inconsistencies instantaneously, and can detect contradictions no matter when or where they were made. It is difficult for an Architect to listen to nonsense, even in a casual conversation, without pointing out the speaker's error. And in any serious discussion or debate Architects are devastating, their skill in framing arguments giving them an enormous advantage. Architects regard all discussions as a search for understanding, and believe their function is to eliminate inconsistencies, which can make communication with them an uncomfortable experience for many.

Ruthless pragmatists about ideas, and insatiably curious, Architects are driven to find the most efficient means to their ends, and they will learn in any manner and degree they can. They will listen to amateurs if their ideas are useful, and will ignore the experts if theirs are not. Authority derived from office, credential, or celebrity does not impress them. Architects are interested only in what make sense, and thus only statements that are consistent and coherent carry any weight with them.

Architects often seem difficult to know. They are inclined to be shy except with close friends, and their reserve is difficult to penetrate. Able to concentrate better than any other type, they prefer to work quietly at their computers or drafting tables, and often alone. Architects also become obsessed with analysis, and this can seem to shut others out. Once caught up in a thought process, Architects close off and persevere until they comprehend the issue in all its complexity. Architects prize intelligence, and with their grand desire to grasp the structure of the universe, they can seem arrogant and may show impatience with others who have less ability, or who are less driven."

bolded what I really identified with

posted November 11, 2011 11:56 AM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
Oh this is my favorite personality typology inventory: I am ENFP .

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posted November 11, 2011 12:03 PM            

That's a new one...

posted February 25, 2012 01:54 AM            

This test is only accurate for roughly 50% of the people who take it. The reason for this is that it bases the cognitive functions of external manifestations of them, which are inconsistent. You can only fit external behaviors to the type, not the type to the behaviors. It's simply not consistent enough to say it's true.

Further more, there is so much more to this theory then meets the eye. It was developed by carl jung long ago and has passed through many different "versions" if you will over the years. Some more true then others. As such, not all the information out there is true.

I've been studying MBTI and related personality theories for many years now. In the past I have tried to corralate MBTI type to astrology data, but I was unable to see a pattern emerge from them. Which makes sense, there is more then one way each part could come together.

This test is a wonderful starting point, but it is by no means the final answer or "end". It's only the beginning, but it's a very long (and painful) road. MBTI brought me through the most signifigant internal journey I have had so far in my life.

Finally, with all that said, I am an INFJ.

posted February 25, 2012 02:09 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
fo sho i am this type but i have enneagram 3 too. which is "the performer" or "the achiever", which i think has to do with my moon in h10, merc in aries, pluto even, or those three forming a t-square. so i do think i function not completely but with flavors of an ENTJ. kinda like having aries as a dominant i guess because of h1 planets..

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If you're an INTJ, then being an enneagram 3 would make sense. Furthermore, that would easily explain why you may identify with ENTJ to a lesser extent. E3 types tend to not be particularly shy (which is often mistaken for introversion) and rather fluent with communication. It's also entirely possible you are an ENTJ, as that matches with E3 as well.

It's possible for any type to be matched with any enneagram type. However, there are definite patterns and overlap. There have been psychological studies into these types and overlaps, and a few of them I have noticed to be pretty accurate. This blog thread explains one paper (which is as dry as toast to read) pretty well (although some I do disagree with). link

posted February 25, 2012 04:56 AM            

67% introverted
88% Intuitive
38% Feeling
22% Judging

doing some reading on this "type" i found out the description matches me very well but i belive this test gives a "frame" of our personalities and behaviour but each individual plays it out differently

its like doing a chart but seeing only the planets in signs and not their houses or aspects...al teast to me but il be glad to hear more comments about this

posted February 25, 2012 05:50 AM            

As an ISFJ, your primary mode of living is focused internally, where you takes things in via your five senses in a literal, concrete fashion. Your secondary mode is external, where you deal with things according to how you feel about them, or how they fit into your personal value system.

ISFJs live in a world that is concrete and kind. They are truly warm and kind-hearted, and want to believe the best of people. They value harmony and cooperation, and are likely to be very sensitive to other people's feelings. People value the ISFJ for their consideration and awareness, and their ability to bring out the best in others by their firm desire to believe the best.

ISFJs have a rich inner world that is not usually obvious to observers. They constantly take in information about people and situations that is personally important to them, and store it away. This tremendous store of information is usually startlingly accurate, because the ISFJ has an exceptional memory about things that are important to their value systems. It would not be uncommon for the ISFJ to remember a particular facial expression or conversation in precise detail years after the event occured, if the situation made an impression on the ISFJ.

posted February 25, 2012 07:01 AM            

Introverted 89 Intuitive 88 Thinking 75 Perceiving 44

You are:
very expressed introvert
very expressed intuitive personality
distinctively expressed thinking personality
moderately expressed perceiving personality

posted February 25, 2012 09:51 AM            

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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
If you're an INTJ, then being an enneagram 3 would make sense. Furthermore, that would easily explain why you may identify with ENTJ to a lesser extent. E3 types tend to not be particularly shy (which is often mistaken for introversion) and rather fluent with communication. It's also entirely possible you are an ENTJ, as that matches with E3 as well.

It's possible for any type to be matched with any enneagram type. However, there are definite patterns and overlap. There have been psychological studies into these types and overlaps, and a few of them I have noticed to be pretty accurate. This blog thread explains one paper (which is as dry as toast to read) pretty well (although some I do disagree with). link

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ooh thanks tautomer! i know uv mentioned studying this for a long time so the insight is very much appreciated..