posted November 16, 2011 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Virgo-AriesArtist:
Well, my now-husband said those words to me on the morning of our 6th day dating, and without hesitation I said it back. I can't tell you why other than I trusted him sooo much from the get-go, we had been friends for 5 months prior to dating, and there was NO expectation of "getting laid", especially as he was both my first boyfriend and first kiss (yes, a rare thing at 20 years old nowadays), and he respected my naivete. It always felt right, and in my heart I knew he was worth it, and from there, we made it nearly 6.5 months being apart (2000 miles between us) after only dating for 2.5 weeks. He moved all the way to FL from Puerto Rico to start a life with me after that time long-distance, and yes, then there was sex, but he's a serious kind of man and I knew that if he was willing, without me begging, to move over a 1000 miles to be with me, he was the man I wanted to be with forever. And here we are, 6 years after it all began, married and making it work, with lots of ups and downs, and lots of growth...all so very worth it!

Sun Virgo, Moon Leo, Venus Leo, Ascendant Aries, NN Taurus
Sun Gemini, Moon Aries, Venus Taurus, Ascendant Cancer, NN Gemini

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posted November 16, 2011 08:02 PM            

I'm talking about love here. Not lust, not infatuation, not obsession. Genuine love.
The stuff that knows all sides of the other person, knows them well. This can only happen when you're with sb for longer than 6 months at least!

posted November 16, 2011 08:04 PM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
I have eros in scorp squaring my psyche by 1 degree. So having this in my natal makes me want need a strong connection. I don't settle for mediocre relationships lol.

I want passion + a whole lot of mental connection.

LOL you're awakening my soul??? HAHA
This is esp funny when they end up breaking up after a few months.

Wow I'm jaded lol.

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Interesting I have psyche in Scorpio and when I love I love intensely and never really stopped loving someone who I fall for and they don't seem to stop loving me either and is because I get inside their soul and I let them inside my soul. When I like someone I get the know them reallly reallly thoroughly . Hubby has eros in scorpio like you but it doesn't conjunct my psyche which is in scorpio at 25 degrees, his is at the beginning.

Your Psyche is in Scorpio

Psyche in Scorpio, the most introspective and intense of the Water signs, implies deep empathy. You can be very empathic towards those you feel connected to, and they will feel like you can read their minds when you're with them. You sense their emotions and sometimes react in your own way as though they are your emotions, even though they are emotions reflected upon you.

In relationships: You yearn for a deep understanding from a partner, his desires must meet yours on a level that you will feel love-making as soul-union. You tend to feel things to the core, and you react with all your being. You want to share a meaningful unity with your partner. Your intense emotions are often tempered with a secret shyness and a respect for you partner, provided he treats you with equal respect.

The Soulmate union that you seek and offer is one that is beautiful, transcendent and cosmic in nature. A connection with you gives them a sense that you blow their mind!

The love that you need is not found in those who are just physical or material. You need depth, understanding, meaningfulness and love from a person who would be able to offer you emotional safety and security, equality, true love and fulfillment.

You wish for someone who would be able to dream with you, be awake with you, hold you when you're feeling weak, support you in emotional ways to keep you strong and focused. A person strong enough to be your equal. A mate strong enough to stand naked in their soul, meeting your true self behind all your façades.

Don't deny your hidden true self, or wait for someone to give you permission to be who you really are. The answer to the question of you cannot be someone else's job to answer, it's yours. Your secret heart desires to be found, accepted, loved, cherished, adored and embraced. Be it in friendship, in love or in marriage.

posted November 16, 2011 11:15 PM            

While in the rest room, I would pace back and fourth until I decided:
YES I can fit through the window..

THEN (with my luck) I realize, I decided incorrectly and get stuck half way through the window..
Fire Trucks, ambulance...police... etc etc...

Then after all that, the guy would then say... SOOOOOO???????????

posted November 16, 2011 11:32 PM            

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PSYCHE IN AQUARIUS: Like to put a little bubble around themselves and their lover and bask in the fulfillment of their hopes, wishes, and dreams. They like to be acknowledged for their unique and special qualities and [b]do not like to compete for affection.

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ME, right there in bold. Competing seems beneath me.(Might be an Aries but I was born in the Leo decan!)

posted November 17, 2011 07:45 AM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
I still stand behind my opinion that it can't be love in weeks. 6 days. Even if you knew them for 10 years as friends, people STILL don't show every side of themselves with a friendship, sometimes you got to be with them in a relationship to see the other side. And 6 days is definitely not long enough lol, nor is two months.

I'm talking about love here. Not lust, not infatuation, not obsession. Genuine love.
The stuff that knows all sides of the other person, knows them well. This can only happen when you're with sb for longer than 6 months at least!

I've had a soulmate relationship, so I DO know you can get EXTREMELY close to someone in a week. But still. That's not love.

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I will not say that love, in any form, makes life easy, or that is all a bed of roses, but as I heard said once, people tell you exactly who they are within the first time you meet them, whether you listen or not, well that is up to you. Love has to have a spark, and of course, after trial and tribulations, 6 years later, I love him more, but why discount what we felt from the get go? Really? So you were there, and saw exactly how he bared his extremely sensitive inner Self to me to those first few weeks of dating...most people would have held back and given my bread crumbs to explain their past. We loved and we trusted because we could feel that bond. Like they say in "Moulin Rouge": Without trust, there is NO love

posted November 17, 2011 07:47 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
"A friend will know you better the minute they meet you than an acquaintance will in a thousand years."

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posted November 17, 2011 07:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Virgo-AriesArtist:
I will not say that love, in any form, makes life easy, or that is all a bed of roses, but as I heard said once, people tell you exactly who they are within the first time you meet them, whether you listen or not, well that is up to you. Love has to have a spark, and of course, after trial and tribulations, 6 years later, I love him more, but why discount what we felt from the get go? Really? So you were there, and saw exactly how he bared his extremely sensitive inner Self to me to those first few weeks of dating...most people would have held back and given my bread crumbs to explain their past. We loved and we trusted because we could feel that bond. Like they say in "Moulin Rouge": Without trust, there is NO love

I just don't discount it, just because I have never been like that with anyone else I've ever met, and it was totally out of character for me to act and react the way I did, I am way more cautious than that, heck, search my old posts here in LL about other guys I had feelings for, or who had feelings for me. I've been posting here since I was 16, and now am 26, and met my husband back in 2005.

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Perhaps you do have a point. It's not that some of us don't believe in love, we just have a hard time trusting (for whatever reasons we've been burnt in the past). And, I'm starting to see that without trust there is NO love. As for me, the reason I feel people take time to figure out love is because there is little or not enough trust.

For example, my boyfriend trusts me 140%, thus he is able to tell me that he loves me time and time again. I've done nothing to arouse his suspicion in any kind. Yet, my trust in him is not even at the same level. It's not because he's done anything to arouse my suspicion and that he's displayed shady-ness..just that it takes me longer to put trust into someone.

He brought up something casually last week and went alittle like this:

"I trust you, in everything. But you don't trust me.." My response was "that's because I am able to show you that you can depend on me" and he went "but how can I show you that you can depend on me if you don't even give me the chance?" - That's the problem with me sometimes, putting up this huge wall, expecting people to be able to knock it down but in reality it's impossible cuz it's made of steel. Haha.

posted November 17, 2011 08:00 AM            

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Originally posted by malicefey:

Perhaps you do have a point. It's not that some of us don't believe in love, we just have a hard time trusting (for whatever reasons we've been burnt in the past). And, I'm starting to see that without trust there is NO love. As for me, the reason I feel people take time to figure out love is because there is little or not enough trust.

For example, my boyfriend trusts me 140%, thus he is able to tell me that he loves me time and time again. I've done nothing to arouse his suspicion in any kind. Yet, my trust in him is not even at the same level. It's not because he's done anything to arouse my suspicion and that he's displayed shady-ness..just that it takes me longer to put trust into someone.

He brought up something casually last week and went alittle like this:

"I trust you, in everything. But you don't trust me.." My response was "that's because I am able to show you that you can depend on me" and he went "but how can I show you that you can depend on me if you don't even give me the chance?" - That's the problem with me sometimes, putting up this huge wall, expecting people to be able to knock it down but in reality it's impossible cuz it's made of steel. Haha.

And another thing is...loving someone so early (as for some of you), would that mean to have blind faith right off the bat in that person too? Is it really sufficient? Can you really trust somebody based on blind faith?

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posted November 17, 2011 09:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Virgo-AriesArtist:
I hear what you're saying malicefey, believe me I do. Part of our connection was an instant empathy, as we had both been abandoned by our fathers, in totally different ways, and he actually had much more time with his, not that is made it better, cause it hurt in a whole different way, but it was an old wound that I'd never trusted anyone to understand, perhaps because I **knew** they couldn't, and he did. He too knew what it was like to not trust that the ones you care about will stick around, and while it took MUCH longer for us to dispel all doubt of each other that we wouldn't just storm out the door and leave, a kernel of trust began at that moment when we found a kindred soul.

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posted November 17, 2011 09:38 AM            

Also, when sb tells me they love me really soon, I just think. No you're in love with the IDEA of me, bc you don't know me. You don't know my quirks, my inner fears. You don't know how I get when I get scared. Frustrated. Lonely. Sad. You only see the surface stuff at the start. It takes awhile to dig further, to the REAL things. Cos noone really shows their hidden sides at the start do they? Even if you're really good friends, there are some sides you just shut off from the world?

Like if you spent 24/7 with someone, can you honestly say that after 4 weeks, the reason you love sb is really that deep and intricate? It'll be more a superficial quality or thought. 'I love the way he smiles/speaks his mind/acts bashful/how he makes me feel'

posted November 17, 2011 04:56 PM            

Is that a good reason to you? Can love just be the fact that you make the other person happy?

Or, how much better/worse if the reply was "You complete me." ?

(Given, of course, that after you ask for a reason, they comply with the 5 second rule of answering - if not then SORRY, too late to answer, guess you don't!!!) LOLOL I'm just kidding

posted November 17, 2011 07:18 PM            

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I personally would not believe it after only two months. That's still the "honeymoon" phase. Me, I take the word "love" VERY seriously (Venus in Scorpio). I even take the word "friend" seriously. I don't think that it's a word that should be just thrown around if you don't mean it and haven't really thought it through. I don't call someone a "friend" or say that I "love" someone unless I really do mean it, and I would rather not hear the words at all than hear them insincerely.

Two months is nowhere near long enough to get to know someone.

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posted November 17, 2011 07:18 PM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I personally would not believe it after only two months. That's still the "honeymoon" phase. Me, I take the word "love" VERY seriously (Venus in Scorpio). I even take the word "friend" seriously. I don't think that it's a word that should be just thrown around if you don't mean it and haven't really thought it through. I don't call someone a "friend" or say that I "love" someone unless I really do mean it, and I would rather not hear the words at all than hear them insincerely.

Two months is nowhere near long enough to get to know someone.

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Wow you're exactly like me! Haha.
I said the EXACT same words you did when someone told me they loved me: "It's a strong word. Don't use it when you don't mean it. I take it very seriously" etc.

posted November 17, 2011 07:45 PM            

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Originally posted by malicefey:

And another thing is...loving someone so early (as for some of you), would that mean to have blind faith right off the bat in that person too? Is it really sufficient? Can you really trust somebody based on blind faith?

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My case is extra unique and its not blind faith. We share something called religious faith. We scrubbed each other really well upfront, and I was put through the Spanish Inquisition.

Remember your accounting class in college? Now imagine if I were to put you in front of a panel of CPAs for an exam, expecting you to remember everything and provide perfect answers.

We had determined that we shared the same life path and aspirations. Furthermore, in full skepticism, my pastor/minister at my church put her through the meat grinder and her pastor/minister at her church put me through Guantanamo. Tremendous due diligence was done upfront.

Plus, she made me stay over at her parent's home for the first weekend, five days into the relationship and I was peppered and hammered. The parents' pastor questioned us and my intent for over an hour and a half.

posted November 17, 2011 07:50 PM            

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Originally posted by malicefey:
Wow you're exactly like me! Haha.
I said the EXACT same words you did when someone told me they loved me: "It's a strong word. Don't use it when you don't mean it. I take it very seriously" etc.

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posted November 17, 2011 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by malicefey:
Wow you're exactly like me! Haha.
I said the EXACT same words you did when someone told me they loved me: "It's a strong word. Don't use it when you don't mean it. I take it very seriously" etc.

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haha I usually say the same thing. I've got alot of libra in me, they say it makes us 'in love with love' but personally, with the pluto in the 8th house, my aries asc (which SHOULD be more impulsive? But isn't really) and my virgo placements... I want something deep. I want them to say it when they really mean it, after getting to know ME inside and out.