posted November 28, 2011 08:27 PM            

This is what I said about them on a past thread:

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Basically, it seems men with Venus in Aries strongly (VERY strongly) sexually desire a woman with aries qualities.. and so they do everything in their power to attract such a woman (who chases them and is very assertive/aggressive) OR .. if they happen to attract a girl who is more passive -- they will do their best to instigate and bring this behaviour *out* in her.
If they truly cannot, they will get annoyed/frustrated.. and eventually give up (but they won't be happy about it). The Venus in Aries guy does not like it when you are not the way he wants you to be (i.e. aggressive) and he *will* hurt you - to make sure you are aware of his disapproval... because after all.. if Mr. Aries Venus is turned on by aggression.. well you bloody well *should* be aggressive -- since as we all know, the world revolves around what he wants and what feels *best* for him.

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posted November 28, 2011 08:30 PM            

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They expect girls to be upbeat and happy! And if you're tired or bored or just deep in thought, they point that out as though there's something wrong with that.

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posted November 28, 2011 08:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
OMG Capriquarius.. I feel like I'm reading myself!

This is what I said about them on a past thread:

[QUOTE]Basically, it seems men with Venus in Aries strongly (VERY strongly) sexually desire a woman with aries qualities.. and so they do everything in their power to attract such a woman (who chases them and is very assertive/aggressive) OR .. if they happen to attract a girl who is more passive -- they will do their best to instigate and bring this behaviour *out* in her.
If they truly cannot, they will get annoyed/frustrated.. and eventually give up (but they won't be happy about it). The Venus in Aries guy does not like it when you are not the way he wants you to be (i.e. aggressive) and he *will* hurt you - to make sure you are aware of his disapproval... because after all.. if Mr. Aries Venus is turned on by aggression.. well you bloody well *should* be aggressive -- since as we all know, the world revolves around what he wants and what feels *best* for him.

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posted November 28, 2011 09:21 PM            

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Originally posted by lindisfarne:
Hey Amelia
I always wondered about the mars conjunct Uranus aspect I have read it could indatce erratic behavior mostly serious anger problems and someone having a hard time controlling it? does he have mars and Uranus in Aries..? or ? and square Venus? do you think a conjunction would amplify whatever energy exists?

it's always the people you don't expect. sound like you love your husband though Which I admire. your loyalty.... that's something that seems to be waning in society today (see Kim and Kris for example and other celebrities that rush to divorce over an issue)

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Thanks about the loyalty comment.

I have been looking at his chart and I know that venus square mars has problems dealing with anger so I am thinking the fact that uranus conjuncts mars and both square venus amplifies it and then he has aries in the 12th house which gives the impression that he is very amicable but deep down under the scenes is very assertive but this assertion is not expressed well because of the mars conjunct uranus and both squaring venus.

He has a lot of issues with his mom and having and absent father since dad die at young age is like he didnt have the right model to show him how to assert himself to others properly. Saturn in the 4th explains death of his dad and that pain. You add sun square moon which I feel represents well his issues with mom who he felt never accepted him as he is and loves conditionally. He is smart and doesn't take his ideas seriously so when ever I question anything bc I am just naturally the type to ask why a lot for anything he gets aggravated and feels I should just trust his judgement and I feel this automatic aggravation has to do with him never getting that validation from this mother so he is extra sensitive and take things that he shouldn't personally type of thing. He has this intense need to achieve something valuable bc he never got that validation and he attracts conflict and obstacles so when his progress gets thwarted which is frequently he gets really frustrated and doens't deal with frustration well and then starts a fight with me. The root of anger is really not actually something I did bc when things are going smoothly he is chill and we don't fight so is either stress from work or his progress getting thwarted and him feeling like everything might collapse and the root of how he copes with stress and this feeling of everything collapsing is rooted in his childhood.

posted November 28, 2011 09:45 PM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Sounds like they have mars in aries or scorpio.

Aries mars have anger issues, scorpio mars are scary when they snap.

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Well yeah in tropical he has mars in scorpio but in sidereal he has mars in libra. I am having difficulty deciding which system I like more. Still all the aspects combined explain it either way I feel whether his mars is in scorpio or libra.

posted November 28, 2011 09:50 PM            

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but hell maybe they both are.

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posted November 28, 2011 11:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
OMG Capriquarius.. I feel like I'm reading myself!

This is what I said about them on a past thread:

[QUOTE]Basically, it seems men with Venus in Aries strongly (VERY strongly) sexually desire a woman with aries qualities.. and so they do everything in their power to attract such a woman (who chases them and is very assertive/aggressive) OR .. if they happen to attract a girl who is more passive -- they will do their best to instigate and bring this behaviour *out* in her.
If they truly cannot, they will get annoyed/frustrated.. and eventually give up (but they won't be happy about it). The Venus in Aries guy does not like it when you are not the way he wants you to be (i.e. aggressive) and he *will* hurt you - to make sure you are aware of his disapproval... because after all.. if Mr. Aries Venus is turned on by aggression.. well you bloody well *should* be aggressive -- since as we all know, the world revolves around what he wants and what feels *best* for him.

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Exactly! But as I was saying above - they also expect girls to be very energetic and sexually forthcoming/aggressive.
The worst thing is - I don't know about your guy - but I've met some who don't JUST criticize.. They actually try to HURT you in order to instigate a response in you and make you more "entertaining" for their amusement.

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I'm also a Capricorn/Aquarius with a dominant Mars in Aries and can definitely relate!

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posted November 28, 2011 11:08 PM            

I'm not so very combative. It takes a LOT of blatant insults and disrespect to make me angry and even more to get me to slam a door.

posted November 29, 2011 03:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
LOL Amelia! That's what I was like when I looked into it.
But I decided to stick to tropical.

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I can honestly say that vedic describes me better...having soutnode in scorpio and nn in Taurus makes too much sense and when I read the SN and NN of other people I Know the vedic makes too much sense. Perhaps vedic is more precise when it comes to the moon and northnodes calculations.

posted November 29, 2011 03:26 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonWitch:

I'm not so very combative. It takes a LOT of blatant insults and disrespect to make me angry and even more to get me to slam a door.

One of my best friends is also an Aries and she couldn't hurt a fly.

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This usually describes me, too.

posted November 29, 2011 03:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
This thread reminds me of something that really gets to me about guys with Venus in Aries. They expect girls to be upbeat and happy! And if you're tired or bored or just deep in thought, they point that out as though there's something wrong with that.

Especially annoying coming from a Taurus guy with Venus in Aries. So if some Taurus guy with Venus in Aries stumbles across this via Google: Hi Mr. Taurus, the next time you tell some chick she's boring or looks bored, TAKE A LOOK AT YOURSELF. If you weren't essentially passive and boring in nature then maybe you wouldn't project all of your desire for vibrance onto some anima in order to fill that void! Learn to develop these traits of initiative and energy and vibrance in yourself.

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posted November 29, 2011 03:55 AM            

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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:

I've interacted with a lot of Aries-influenced people and yeah, they're pretty combative. It's pretty much something you have to expect out of the sign, frankly. Always expect BS, always expect to have to tell them "I'm not gonna argue with you", always expect SOMEthing.

It's a fundamental part of who they are and it's not gonna change; they ARE ruled by Mars, after all...

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Agreed BP, I too have found Aries types to be very argumentative and combative. I have a family full of them (Aries Suns, Moons and ACs) and they not only start and elevate family feuds, they are constantly arguing with their "frenemies" also. Being around them is exhausting. Even my 73 year old grandmother (Aries/Pisces/Pisces) threatens to kick some azz every now and then. She was "a real pistol" when she was younger too, she has lots of fight stories to share...

posted November 29, 2011 08:42 AM            

I feel that you have an overload of hatred for Aries because of your mother issues, believe me, it is that obvious.

I have my venus and mecury in pisces, so am one of the watery Aries, who actually believe in communication.

When you learn more about astrology, you will understand that it is so much more then a sun sign that makes up an individuals traits. Mars is the action in our charts and where and how mars is placed and aspected has everything to do with how the person MIGHT respond to a situation. why not post a topic on why are some people not capable of communication and examine their charts. You would then get a better understanding of the topic.

Also, with communication problems, you may want to examine their mercury placement and ascendant.

posted November 30, 2011 01:14 PM            

Mars square Moon

The square indicates inner tensions and frustrations related to expressing feelings and taking actions. Conflict may occur when you attempt to direct your will when instincts nd emotions are not supportive or are giving contrary signals. These intenral stresses may often prevent relationships or career from being fully satisfying or successful. Emotional volatility is likely; and you display periodic temper outbursts when inner pressure overflows in provocative situations.

Your inability to fully control pent-up emotions, and your tendency to interpret all experiences and comments as personally directed, keeps emotions in a state of underlying turmoil, which can later manifest as arguments and confrontation. Sometimes you seem to relish arguments as an excuse for self-assertion, although they are often more a means to release inhibited energy than a real exchange of different viewpoints. In fact, you tend to dismiss others' beliefs and opinions without respectful consideration. This, coupled with a dismissive style which can seem like a verbal attack, succeeds mainly in alienating people. Eventually there is reduced support and help from others.

If contentious temperamental displays become increasingly dominant, then psychosomatic health disorders may be one consequence, stimulated by stress th rough interpersonal conflict, or through repressed anger. Such symptoms of ill-health are often emotionally caused, tending to affect the intestine and stomach areas, perhaps stimulating the formation of ulcers. You need to discover how to release these agitative feelings and direct them into constructive channels, perhaps by exploring methods of relaxation or mediation, and by gradually understanding your emotional complexity through self-help techniques.

You can be self-centered, intent on pursuing your way irrespective of the impact it has on others. Sometimes you use Martian energies aggressively to gain your way, refusing adjustments and compromises with others, demanding that they appease your will and needs while denying any validity to theirs. You need to realize that 'give and take' establishes a more appropriate balance and movement of energies within relationships; you might have expectations of what you need from others, but, equally, they will demand some exchange from you.

Often instincts and emotional needs clash with your will for action, and you may feel confused regarding which to choose. This inability to know which way to turn increases frustration; and anyone offering help is likely to be rejected as interfering; you prefer to tread an independent path, even if it is a solitary one.

Fear of possible threats from others often stimulates protective instincts. This unease is likely to perrsist as an undercurrent through life, even though it is mainly an imaginary fear. It is often your contentious and belligerent lanture which arouses the ire of others and makes social relationships complex and unsatisfactory. You need to develop self-esteem based on appreciating your nature rather than on how you make others submit to you; this type of aggressive tactic, designed to achieve a sense of superiority, gains more enemies than friends. This is especially true in a career environment, which is likely to be unfulfilling, and where pressures and self-imposed tensions have a direct influence on ther rest of your life and relationships.

Despite your emotional vulnerability and sensitivity, attitudes may still remain immature and unintegrated; as a consequence, awareness and sensitivity to others is diminished. Others should be seen as enriching your life rather than posing hidden threats. You should concentrate more on co-operation and less on divisive competition. Compromise and trust will need developing, as well as a new perception extended to include the reality of others.

Acknowledge these inner stresses, and find constructive channels for energies to move outward, instead of allowing them to contaminate your life and relationships by negative frustrations. Self-discipline may be required to achieve this; you must refuse to indulge in unnecessary argumentative behavior. Attractions toward drugs and alcohol should be avoided, as they may further agitate emotions into greater volatility.

Domestic and intimate relationship problems are likely unless greater understanding and maturity is gained. Men may try to be too forceful and aggressive with women, playing a 'macho' role without much understanding and sensitivity to the female temperament, oppressing through asserting raw power without sympathy, and overidentifying with the Mars energy and denying the Moon. Women may passively respond to a more dominant partner, and, in the process, deny personal instincts and emotions. These may become consigned to the unconscious, where they fester and gain hidden power, waiting for the right time to be unleashed to destroy an imprisoning life-style.

Do any of the people that you find aggressive have moon square mars or moon semisquare mars or moon sesquisquare mars??

posted November 30, 2011 01:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Mysticknowflake:
lindisfarne;
I wish that your mother was another sign!

I feel that you have an overload of hatred for Aries because of your mother issues, believe me, it is that obvious.

I have my venus and mecury in pisces, so am one of the watery Aries, who actually believe in communication.

When you learn more about astrology, you will understand that it is so much more then a sun sign that makes up an individuals traits. Mars is the action in our charts and where and how mars is placed and aspected has everything to do with how the person MIGHT respond to a situation. why not post a topic on why are some people not capable of communication and examine their charts. You would then get a better understanding of the topic.

Also, with communication problems, you may want to examine their mercury placement and ascendant.

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So if you are an aries sun with water moon, venus, or mercury, or earth/air mercury venus moon than we will get along perfectly. but if you are an aries with lots of fire in your chart (mostly the leo and aries then im sorry i just cant be around you.. just from my personal experience, super aries influenced people with that vital leo moon are awful and they are big bullies, selfish, mean, controlling, and like to put their hands on people and thats something I dont ever want to deal with again, + i have venus moon in pisces mars in cancer i really dislike that whole obnoxious loud screaming "im gonna get in your face and hit you because i can't control myself" thing that these mega aries people ive unfortunately come across behave like. They are just vividly immature and are not capable of understanding much it seems... they complain that no one likes them/talks to them its because they never let anyone get a word in before getting mean and wanting to hit them. What kind of people do that?

I dont hate aries people, get that thought out of your head, and I dont even hate my mother... I dont like who she is, i cant ever change her, ive accepted that, its best to live my own life and find emotional support elsewhere. I clarified myself so hopefully no one else gets confused....I dont hate them, am i wary of them? ya..

posted November 30, 2011 01:39 PM            

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Aries suns paired with any other fire placements what's the best way to come to you about issues (communication something healthy people in healthy relationships do) without you shutting down and attacking them verbally/physically? How can these people expect to be in any healthy relationship when their partners try to talk to them and are instead getting bullied and at worse hit on (physical violence)?....Lindasfarm

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I'm an Aries Sun/Mercury w/ Sag Ascendant and I rarely yell, mostly I just stand there nodding my head with a grin on my face. If possible I will act as a mediator and try to come to a compromise that will satisfy both parties. This usually works but every now and then I will get someone who challenges through manipulation. This irks me to no end because I've seen it all before. I look at this kind of behavior as childish. If it goes to far I will get direct (shortest distance between 2 points) and put an end to the BS. Without yelling or hitting.

So if you're asking what is the best way to communicate with a loaded Fire sign I would say straightforward works, with no embellishment or manipulation.

posted December 01, 2011 01:18 AM            

I'm extending the olive branch in hopes that you haven't written off all Fire heavy Aries.
We really are a fun bunch and in time you will see what I mean.
I'm sorry about your Mom and the cross you bear with her, believe me I understand but before you write us (Aries) off give us a chance.

posted December 01, 2011 02:42 AM            

I can slide a piece of paper to a super aries with or without moon in Leo an they will freak out, their ego gets hurt and they will say "Well how dare you! Why didn't you just give it to me directly? you slid it to me? that's very rude! do you have a problem with me?" Stuff like that overstimulates me I get very exhuasted pretty quickly and just shutdown I can't even respond half the time and that's exactly what sets them off - when people don't respond to them. Can you imagine how frightening that is?

posted December 01, 2011 02:58 AM            

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I'm an Aries Sun/Mercury w/ Sag Ascendant and I rarely yell, mostly I just stand there nodding my head with a grin on my face. If possible I will act as a mediator and try to come to a compromise that will satisfy both parties. This usually works but every now and then I will get someone who challenges through manipulation. This irks me to no end because I've seen it all before. I look at this kind of behavior as childish. If it goes to far I will get direct (shortest distance between 2 points) and put an end to the BS. Without yelling or hitting.

So if you're asking what is the best way to communicate with a loaded Fire sign I would say straightforward works, with no embellishment or manipulation.

EtA: Having problems relating to an Aries?
Try sincerity, this almost always works.

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That doesn't work. Want to know why? I don't sugar coat things for people, it's either I don't say anything because I don't cAre enough, or I tell you straight up.

This is how for example my mega Aries mother will behave and you know its quite funny when I think about it:
For example I will tell her straight up about an issue. She will begin the crying (Leo moon always has to be an actor/actress) she starts crying LOL I know it was an act because they were not actual tears it was that fake sob.. and in comes "No no! I'm not listening get away from me! *resorts to physical aggression/violence* you all hate me? right? is that it? everyone hates me/I'm the victim I'm the real victim here you guys are all just attacking me so I'm the victim so I'm not gonna listen I'm just gonna yell and scream over you because im the victim and everyone is just out to get me so goodbye!!" that's how it is. I say, being straight foward. instead everyone will be made to feel as If we are involved in some dramatic theatrical show LOL...

and this is mega aries/Leo moons biggest problem:
Their inability to truly listen and take into consideration of the reality around them. Their resorting to immature and infantile tactics to block and self progression, to strain any chance at building healthy relationships with people, because of this behavior. No matter what anyone says the only conclusion they will get is "I'm the victim you just don't like me so f this I'm not listening!"

entertaining, a little, very unfortunate, yes.
I do straightforward, doesnt seem to work :P

posted December 01, 2011 04:31 AM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mysticknowflake:
[b]lindisfarne;
I wish that your mother was another sign!

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I clarified i don't hate aries people...
i clarified that i do actually have a best friend aries sun but the only reason why i tolerate her and like her a lot is because she has a lot of water in her chart. I clarified I will only befriend and put up with aries sun if they have water, air or earth in the rest of their chart, im not ecstatic about any aries sun with other aries placements in personal planets esp if they have a leo moon..

So if you are an aries sun with water moon, venus, or mercury, or earth/air mercury venus moon than we will get along perfectly. but if you are an aries with lots of fire in your chart (mostly the leo and aries then im sorry i just cant be around you.. just from my personal experience, super aries influenced people with that vital leo moon are awful and they are big bullies, selfish, mean, controlling, and like to put their hands on people and thats something I dont ever want to deal with again, + i have venus moon in pisces mars in cancer i really dislike that whole obnoxious loud screaming "im gonna get in your face and hit you because i can't control myself" thing that these mega aries people ive unfortunately come across behave like. They are just vividly immature and are not capable of understanding much it seems... they complain that no one likes them/talks to them its because they never let anyone get a word in before getting mean and wanting to hit them. What kind of people do that?

I dont hate aries people, get that thought out of your head, and I dont even hate my mother... I dont like who she is, i cant ever change her, ive accepted that, its best to live my own life and find emotional support elsewhere. I clarified myself so hopefully no one else gets confused....I dont hate them, am i wary of them? ya..

And I know about astrology, im not stupid i know its more than sun sign, hence why i said i can tolerate [b]aries sun with WATER/EARTH/AIR placements in moon mercury or venus. any aries sun that has aries mars or venus or even mercury with a leo moon i will avoid like the plague just from personal experience they act the same, immature loud, and want to hit others[/B]

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I never said that you were stupid!~

I have a Pisces Venus and Mercury, Gemini rising with Cancer in my first house. I have a Sag moon. I haven't been in a fight since I was a child and she was WAY bigger then myself and a bully. I have always been on the side of the underdog and anyone who knows me will tell you that I'm extremely kind and non violent. I can be pushed though...

You may have clarified, but I'm sorry that I see a harshness in your posts where Aries are concerned. I'm a very tolerant person and have never had any trouble with anyone on this forum and I've been a member for seven years now. But I do feel that you are preoccupied with bashing Aries. I'm sorry if I have it wrong, but looking through all of your posts on here, there is an unusual amount of them complaining about Aries behavior. I was simply suggestion that you might try another approach if you truly want to understand the reason for this particular subject.

posted December 01, 2011 04:33 AM            

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EtA: Having problems relating to an Aries?
Try sincerity, this almost always works.

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posted December 01, 2011 04:42 AM            

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That doesn't work. Want to know why? I don't sugar coat things for people, it's either I don't say anything because I don't cAre enough, or I tell you straight up.

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That doesn't sound very timid to me, and I like a straight up kind of person.

posted December 01, 2011 10:37 AM            

Personally I'd rather die than let you see me cry so the big fake Aries Sobs sound totally made up. An Alpha Female is not going to let you lead them around by the nose and rub their face in it, even if she did give birth to you.

another thing, you're straight-up?
no that's not true otherwise you would be communicating on the same level as your mother. We respect straight-forward.

I think the real problem here is your poor pitiful me Pisces Moon. There is a reason that the Moon is unhappy here and it basically comes down to manipulation.

For the sake of our beloved knowflakes, don't go there, besides our Patron Saint Linda Goodman was (and is in heaven) an Alpha Female Aries.

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