posted December 21, 2011 12:43 PM            

I know a person who has Jupiter in 1st and he is a very narcissistic and "entitled".
It is like everybody owns him something.
But this person has Jupiter ONLY in his 1st house (no any other planets).

posted December 21, 2011 12:58 PM            

Hey Ami, I have Saturn/Capricorn in the first house. Even though I am Jupitarean, I carry Saturn on my back always.

posted December 21, 2011 01:05 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
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Hey Ami, I have Saturn/Capricorn in the first house. Even though I am Jupitarean, I carry Saturn on my back always.

Saturn is a friend of mine and has offset my "too much of a good thing" Jupiter.
I was the oldest of a houseful of kids so I got my Saturn education early.
Saturn keeps me grounded.

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Hi Lala!

Yes, I suppose my Saturn conj the ASC has been a God send, too even though I hate it

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posted December 21, 2011 01:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
Ami,
Yes, it was a long up-heel battle for me, but in a recent years I excepted myself for who am I.
"I am who I am and damn all who tries to challenge it"
I am not sure who wrote this saying but I love it
The Sense of identity is very hard to come to a Neptunian Person

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Yes,very, very true!

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posted December 21, 2011 01:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
interesting
Voix_de_la_Mer having Jupiter is 1st make you feel some sort of Entitlement?

I know a person who has Jupiter in 1st and he is a very narcissistic and "entitled".
It is like everybody owns him something.
But this person has Jupiter ONLY in his 1st house (no any other planets).

My Little one has Pluto in a first that's why I am interested.
It can not be more different: I have Neptune in 1st, she has Pluto in 1st

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I'm unsure whether you are asking me if it is Pluto in the 1st or Jupiter in the 1st causing a sense of entitlement?

Regardless, no, not that I am aware of.

If anything, I have always felt a deep urge to be of service, and always knew I would manifest this, as I am in the process of doing.
This could however be my Virgo moon.

I do feel everyone has a right to certain things in life though, like love, freedom, and the resulting happiness.
But I do not feel I deserve this to the detriment of anyone else, nor do I feel I deserve it *more* than anyone else.

posted December 21, 2011 01:12 PM            

However you also have Pluto in first and My little one has Pluto in first which has EXACT conj with NN ... but no any other planet.

posted December 21, 2011 01:13 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
You need to make him a friend of yours.
Believe me, when you're down, he'll help you get back up on your feet and persevere.
(sometime we just have to keep on going)

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Well, Lala, actually, I thank God for it because it trines my moon. I have had to plant my feel like an old oak tree and hang on to some invisible roots. Doesn't that sound like Saturn.
Merry Christmas Dear Lala xx

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posted December 21, 2011 01:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
Voix_de_la_Mer I was referring to Jup in a first.

However you also have Pluto in first and My little one has Pluto in first which has EXACT conj with NN ... but no any other planet.

how was you as a child? willful? intense?

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Wilful only when expected to conform.
Intense pretty much all the time, but in an introverted manner.

As a pre-teen I was very reserved around people, unless I was singing to them.
I spent most of my childhood deep in thought, wandering in wildernessess or near water, feeling alien with people, yet one with nature, music, and dancing.
One of my fondest memories is going to visit my great grandmothers grave in the autumn when I was 7 years old - all the leaves were blowing around in the wind and I was seized by the urge to dance in them, it felt like I became completely spirit.

I played piano, sang, and drew and wrote a lot - that was my real communication with the world.
I had pretty good feelers and could sense danger, and therefore never got into many scrapes as a young child.
I loved running, and could never run fast enough. I wanted to be one with the wind.
Sometimes I truly felt if I could just take slightly bigger strides I would take off.
I always done well in school, but at the end of almost every report card was "She is a daydreamer, always staring out the window".

For some reason my reserve or refusal to conform never resulted in bullying.
I often stood up for those being bullied, even though I had no real support circle around me, as I never committed to any group.

posted December 21, 2011 01:31 PM            

Asteroid fortuna 7 leo
Makemake 7 leo
AC 10 Leo
Sun 10 Leo

posted December 21, 2011 01:34 PM            

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Originally posted by popcorn:
Yes. Im self centered. My opinion are we must take care about our self first before we can help other. Im in focus on my self and my life. Ive never told my children what they should do. My children did what I done.

Asteroid fortuna 7 leo
Makemake 7 leo
AC 10 Leo
Sun 10 Leo

Hi Popcorn Darling!
How are you?
So you have Sun conj ASC. You only have one planet in the first house. I would not think that would be super self centered. I would think 3-4 would be.

You are right in your self esteem. That is really, really good!

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posted December 21, 2011 01:39 PM            

I have a first house Mars. A pretty potent placement, let me tell you. I can be very aggressive in expressing myself, and I speak passionately. I can be intimidating not intentionally it's just the gift of having Mars at home in the 1st. I have quite a temper when I get really mad. Which isn't often. I have my Sun in Libra opposite my Mars in Aries which tempers that aggression.

posted December 21, 2011 01:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
NativelyJoan
Greetings from Boston

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posted December 21, 2011 02:49 PM            

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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
Well,

I have a first house Mars. A pretty potent placement, let me tell you. I can be very aggressive in expressing myself, and I speak passionately. I can be intimidating not intentionally it's just the gift of having Mars at home in the 1st. I have quite a temper when I get really mad. Which isn't often. I have my Sun in Libra opposite my Mars in Aries which tempers that aggression.

I've got a lot of energy. I enjoy staying toned and in shape. I'm very outgoing and enjoy being silly and making others laugh. I enjoy taking risks and always end up doing things that my friends are afraid of doing. It definitely give me courage having this placement. I have this unwavering confidence that I can get through anything, and I manage to many a time. I have a lot of faith in myself and in others. I'm not an egomaniac but I do have an ample amount of self love.

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Great description Joan! Thank you.

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posted December 21, 2011 06:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Chaos:
I have 1st house Moon...... Planets are somewhat amplified in the 1st house, they get that egocentric energy, all the things connected to that planets influence become very personal...I don't know if this makes any sense?

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posted December 21, 2011 07:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
Hi Ami,
I have Neptune In my First House Conj AC.
Neptune manifested in my life as following:
1. I took me much longer than anybody else to find/accept who I am.
2. I think I have addictive personality, meaning If I start drinking or doing drugs I will not able to stop. That;s why I do not drink or do drugs
3. I cold pick up a mood from somebody else. Example: If I sit next to somebody who is upset I will get upset for no reason
4. I daydream more than usual
5. When I am in a crowd of people I will not be noticed right away. (Still bothers me a hell a lot)
6. Even my friends can not comment on my appearance. One of my friend told me " I am not sure if you pretty or not, you are so elusive"
7. Men tend to overlook me from the beginning, It is like I have invisibility cloak around me . After a while, I would get some comments like "Oh wow you are pretty, why I did not notice you before?"
8. what else? Oh men think they need to protect me, may be even dominate me for some reason. However they are mistaken. I do have strong character (Mars and Moon in Aries) after their realization that I can't be dominated or controlled, it become ugly.
Issue of control/dominance is the main issue and concern of my life.

I am not sure if it is Neptune, or any other planet. I have Pluto in 10 house. Pluto RX conj MC 4 degree

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Heh I have Neptune Conjunct ASC as well.

posted December 21, 2011 07:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
Hi Ami,
I have Neptune In my First House Conj AC.
Neptune manifested in my life as following:
1. I took me much longer than anybody else to find/accept who I am.
2. I think I have addictive personality, meaning If I start drinking or doing drugs I will not able to stop. That;s why I do not drink or do drugs
3. I cold pick up a mood from somebody else. Example: If I sit next to somebody who is upset I will get upset for no reason
4. I daydream more than usual
5. When I am in a crowd of people I will not be noticed right away. (Still bothers me a hell a lot)
6. Even my friends can not comment on my appearance. One of my friend told me " I am not sure if you pretty or not, you are so elusive"
7. Men tend to overlook me from the beginning, It is like I have invisibility cloak around me . After a while, I would get some comments like "Oh wow you are pretty, why I did not notice you before?"
8. what else? Oh men think they need to protect me, may be even dominate me for some reason. However they are mistaken. I do have strong character (Mars and Moon in Aries) after their realization that I can't be dominated or controlled, it become ugly.
Issue of control/dominance is the main issue and concern of my life.

I am not sure if it is Neptune, or any other planet. I have Pluto in 10 house. Pluto RX conj MC 4 degree

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posted December 21, 2011 09:45 PM            

KarkaQueen: I am scorp asc

posted December 21, 2011 11:17 PM            

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tautomer4314 do tell more please

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I'll do my best, but I might end up describing things that come from other aspects. It's hard to separate everything because they're all similar. I have a shitton of scorpio energy because pluto is in the first house, it's conjunct my moon, and I have an 8th house stellium. My pluto energy alone in the first house is enhanced by it being conjunct my scorpio moon, but the moon is in the second house.

I go deep, very very deep. I have to. There is this itch I have for it. I have the abillity to go inside my mind and tease out every single motive for every single action I make in life. The reason behind my actions, and to a large extent, others, are not lost on me. EVERYTHING has a deeper reason and story behind it, and I am so driven to find that. Sometimes at a great cost to myself. The most tangible example I think of right now was when I forayed into drugs some a year ago when I knew it was bad for me, but it was the only way. I could not understand my craving for it unless I went into the craving and examined it from the inside out. It did leave a tad bit of damage but I am better for it.

Pluto also makes me having this drawing to "darkness". I am intrinsically a light/bright person in energy (albeit dense), but something about dark energy compells me. I have been in a relationship with someone years ago who was quite dark. I learned he had a demonic spirit bound to him. That made me drawn to him A LOT more (long story). I know I am light, but the dark has this mystic appeal. I know if I went into it, I could be exeedingly powerful. I never will though. The feeling though, it will be there. I romantazise good vs. evil a lot of the time.

I transform myself a lot. Internally I am always working on myself, bettering myself. Finding a problem and fixing it from its root. I obsess in a lot of ways with being perfect, or trying to be perfect. I am never good enough. In many ways I learn best by going through great turmoil and transmuting the pain I go through into something new and better. On the outside, I appear mostly the same to most everyone. On the inside, I am not the same person I was last year, and I was not the same that year before. So on and so forth. I greatly resist change, but I know I must change, all the time.

There are very few people that I know that can go where I go in my mind. Of the few that I have let in, they are either lost or scared. It confounds them that I can do what I do, and the fact that nothing is unexposed and the awareness I have is frightening because nothing can be ignored or forgotten. It's lonely in many many ways. However I am learning to express this and find the right people who at the very least can handle this of which I so badly need to express.

I like relating things to sound and music. This song I feel explains in sound and music my plutonian nature: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t01dYTecfS8

It can be maddening at times. I have been pushed close to scuicide on several occasions because of how much pain I can feel, and how I can be powerless to stop it. It is who I am though, and I would not change it. Mostly because it allows me to wield a lot of power. I do not outwardly admit it, but it's true, I do like having that power. Even if I can't use it.

All of this is highly tempered though. My ascendent (libra) keeps this under wraps, and by verbosity (gemini) allows me to hide this nature. I don't like it to be seen.