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Ami Anne
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posted December 21, 2011 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please tell me how you feel those planets? I have Retro Saturn conj the ASC. Echo conjuncts my ASC, too. I feel these are burdens ON me, but not IN me, if you understand what I mean. My Cancer moon is deep within me. My Gemini sun is the fabric of me, but the ASC conjunctions seem more outer, but an outer part that I can't take off.


I don't know if that makes any sense, but please tell me how you experience first house planets. When I do charts, I am at a loss to feel out what first house planets do.


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posted December 21, 2011 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting topic, Ami !

I'd like to know more about this, too.

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posted December 21, 2011 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have 1st house Moon...I'd say it's one hellishly egocentric Moon, I put my own emotions before everything, before others emotions aswell, when I hurt, it's the worst thing...and I do really BELIEVE it's more serious & other take things much easily, their pain isn't that "painful" as my pain...but I have an exalted Moon in opp to Pluto, trines Neptune, so I guess, even in reality, apart from my own perspective, my emotions are much stronger & I DO hurt more than the average person... Planets are somewhat amplified in the 1st house, they get that egocentric energy, all the things connected to that planets influence become very personal...I don't know if this makes any sense?
Also, I have a lot of weird asteroids in 1st...

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posted December 21, 2011 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami,
I have Neptune In my First House Conj AC.
Neptune manifested in my life as following:
1. I took me much longer than anybody else to find/accept who I am.
2. I think I have addictive personality, meaning If I start drinking or doing drugs I will not able to stop. That;s why I do not drink or do drugs
3. I cold pick up a mood from somebody else. Example: If I sit next to somebody who is upset I will get upset for no reason
4. I daydream more than usual
5. When I am in a crowd of people I will not be noticed right away. (Still bothers me a hell a lot)
6. Even my friends can not comment on my appearance. One of my friend told me " I am not sure if you pretty or not, you are so elusive"
7. Men tend to overlook me from the beginning, It is like I have invisibility cloak around me . After a while, I would get some comments like "Oh wow you are pretty, why I did not notice you before?"
8. what else? Oh men think they need to protect me, may be even dominate me for some reason. However they are mistaken. I do have strong character (Mars and Moon in Aries) after their realization that I can't be dominated or controlled, it become ugly.
Issue of control/dominance is the main issue and concern of my life.

I am not sure if it is Neptune, or any other planet. I have Pluto in 10 house. Pluto RX conj MC 4 degree

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Ami Anne
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posted December 21, 2011 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you you sweet friends. I have a gap when I do charts. Does it make one more self centered, egocentric than planets in other houses? For example, is one preoccupied with the events of the various houses in which the planets reside, so could one say that a first house placements make one preoccupied with self, more so than other house placements? Didn't I say that nice

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posted December 21, 2011 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fondue Knight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
Hi Ami,
I have Neptune In my First House Conj AC.
Neptune manifested in my life as following:
1. I took me much longer than anybody else to find/accept who I am.
2. I think I have addictive personality, meaning If I start drinking or doing drugs I will not able to stop. That;s why I do not drink or do drugs
3. I cold pick up a mood from somebody else. Example: If I sit next to somebody who is upset I will get upset for no reason
4. I daydream more than usual
5. When I am in a crowd of people I will not be noticed right away. (Still bothers me a hell a lot)
6. Even my friends can not comment on my appearance. One of my friend told me " I am not sure if you pretty or not, you are so elusive"
7. Men tend to overlook me from the beginning, It is like I have invisibility cloak around me . After a while, I would get some comments like "Oh wow you are pretty, why I did not notice you before?"
8. what else? Oh men think they need to protect me, may be even dominate me for some reason. However they are mistaken. I do have strong character (Mars and Moon in Aries) after their realization that I can't be dominated or controlled, it become ugly.
Issue of control/dominance is the main issue and concern of my life.

I am not sure if it is Neptune, or any other planet. I have Pluto in 10 house. Pluto conj MC 4 degree


I have Neptune in the first and I agree with #1-5. I also have Uranus conj ASC, but from the 12th.

And Ami I definitely have a preoccupation with myself, but I have 3 planets in the 7th, so would that also make me interested in others? I'm not sure because Neptune is involved and I can't see through the damn fog.

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posted December 21, 2011 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Knight
Nice to meet you my fellow neptunium
#8 I am not sure if it is attributed to Neptune, but it is a main issue of my life.

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posted December 21, 2011 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fondue Knight:
I have Neptune in the first and I agree with #1-5. I also have Uranus conj ASC, but from the 12th.

Get out!! I also have Neptune in the first and sag rising like you and Uranus conjunct rising but my Uranus falls in the 12th too. LOL.

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posted December 21, 2011 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
Hi Ami,
I have Neptune In my First House Conj AC.
Neptune manifested in my life as following:
1. I took me much longer than anybody else to find/accept who I am.
2. I think I have addictive personality, meaning If I start drinking or doing drugs I will not able to stop. That;s why I do not drink or do drugs
3. I cold pick up a mood from somebody else. Example: If I sit next to somebody who is upset I will get upset for no reason
4. I daydream more than usual
5. When I am in a crowd of people I will not be noticed right away. (Still bothers me a hell a lot)
6. Even my friends can not comment on my appearance. One of my friend told me " I am not sure if you pretty or not, you are so elusive"
7. Men tend to overlook me from the beginning, It is like I have invisibility cloak around me . After a while, I would get some comments like "Oh wow you are pretty, why I did not notice you before?"
8. what else? Oh men think they need to protect me, may be even dominate me for some reason. However they are mistaken. I do have strong character (Mars and Moon in Aries) after their realization that I can't be dominated or controlled, it become ugly.
Issue of control/dominance is the main issue and concern of my life.

I am not sure if it is Neptune, or any other planet. I have Pluto in 10 house. Pluto RX conj MC 4 degree


I have neptune in the first and number 3 and four apply to me but the rest NOT really.

If someone is moody around me it affects me and then I get moody bc I feel energy easily. Sometimes I am participating in this board and can sense people's energy. Its neat, I like that I am this way when I sense people's energy and it isn't negative. I am getting better at having stronger boundaries though and not let other people's energies when negative affect me.

I do like fantasy. I am currently watching this show called once upon a time and is based on fairy tales but is interesting and well made. I like a partner who will fantasize with me and indulge me bc I enjoy it but can differentiate bt fantasy and reality just fine as I have virgo to balance out my neptune so I feel the virgo keeps my neptune in check nicely.


Also I have moon in pisces conjunct IC so neptune represents home and my mother so it been in the house of self could possibly mean poor boundaries with mother.


Interesting thread. Looking forward to reading more replies.

Edit:

Neptune is the only planet I have in the first and have two planets in the 11th and two in the 12th so I feel that preoccupation with self is balanced out nicely with preoccupation for others.

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posted December 21, 2011 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ladyvi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Pisces in 1st. It sucks, even though I have really good intuition. I can walk into a room and just know who I will like and not like. Why it sucks is because the things I feel and say are usually not taken seriously by people. I can predict how someone will act shady and people will think teehee She's just being overly dramatic or just flat out ignore me. That is, until the person I predicted will be shady will do exactly what I think they will do. Then my friends are like oh this person back stabbed me this way that way etc. and I was like dur I told you this already. I come off as way to sensitive but I ALWAYS have a reason why I do not like someone. And it will come to me within the first paragraph they speak to me or I will just feel something is not right about them. Its not a very harmonious placement to have. Aries bluntness and aggressiveness with Pisces intuition do not mix well when I'm feeling threatened.

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posted December 21, 2011 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have Neptune, Venus and Sun and Mercury there. i cannot differentiate anything because i guess that's all i know how it feels to be always feeling these planets.

i'm not selfish but very self-oriented i guess. i'm blunt and honest but Neptune near AC makes people and myself confused about my identity.

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posted December 21, 2011 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fondue Knight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Get out!! I also have Neptune in the first and sag rising like you and Uranus conjunct rising but my Uranus falls in the 12th too. LOL.

OMG twins!

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posted December 21, 2011 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lechien:
i have Neptune, Venus and Sun and Mercury there. i cannot differentiate anything because i guess that's all i know how it feels to be always feeling these planets.

i'm not selfish but very self-oriented i guess. i'm blunt and honest but Neptune near AC makes people and myself confused about my identity.


Lechien if you don't mind elaborating...what do you mean by confused by your identity??

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posted December 21, 2011 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ElizabethO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Moon and Pluto in the 1st. Moon is the ruler of MC, Pluto ruler of the 2nd.

Moon in trine my Sun, opposed by Saturn/Uranus.
Pluto is sextile Neptune.

Success, wealth, and importance are very important to me, and my biggest wish is to be respected for those three things. I learned to be independent from a very young age, and have been mostly on my own when it comes to developing my 2nd and 10th house.

Ruler of the MC in the 1st House

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Ruler of 10th house in 1st house

Your professional success is related to the expression of your personality, the confidence in your initiative and your physical body or appearance. Whatever you achieve in life, you will have to do it on your own and will be very proud of it. Try to avoid the tendency to become egocentric. You may do best when self-employed.


Ruler of the 2nd in the 1st

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Ruler of the 2nd House in the 1st House

The anxiety about earning your own money already was generated in your youth, probably by your family upbringing. Your financial income is directly related to your own effort, to the expression of your talents and to the utilization of your physical body.


(Source: http://cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html)
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If you have planets in the 1st, look at what they planet rules in your chart. Whatever house that planet rules in your chart will then be merged with your first house. The 1st house is your Persona, or the character you've chosen to express the rest of your chart through. I wouldn't get into analyzing signs at this point. You're simply look at what sectors of your life are in sync with each other. Planets within each House are like "flavorings" or "spices".

Example:

Leo Ascendant. Pluto conjunct Asc. Pluto rules the 4th house, the house of Home and Mother. Empty 4th house. Your home, family, and mother are very important to your view on your identity and personal development. The 4th House is your private life (10th house being your public life), which is a very strong part of your identity. Pluto in the 1st makes you very protective of your identity, often seeking power or control over how people choose to see you.

Hope this helps!

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posted December 21, 2011 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amelia28:
Lechien if you don't mind elaborating...what do you mean by confused by your identity??

mmm, to begin with i was deprived of having the sense of self until i was much older due to how i was brought up by emotionally abusive and possessive parent. i guess that partly being the reason, people had a hard time grasping me.

to put it simply, when i was a kid we'd tell each other "you are like a cat, you are like a bird" according to the impressions we make, you know. but everyone just paused for me and said they cannot see me as anything. it was always like that with lots of things.

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posted December 21, 2011 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and i used to daydream 90% of my waking time.

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posted December 21, 2011 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what about Pluto people?
What I mean is PLUTO ONLY is in first?

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posted December 21, 2011 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightning Strike     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in Leo in the first.
I come off, on a first impression, as aggressive, standoffish and as having a proud-bearing.
I guess you can sum this up to being intimidating, or someone you shouldn't mess with, at first sight...? Like a girl who belongs in a biker gang (I've gotten that before )
This, and not to mention Sun Square Ascendant, makes me have a very competitive edge, and makes me refuse to give up until I've attained the goal or seized the prize.
It makes me want to push harder, but also makes my pride a soft spot for anyone who wants to play with it (Which I've been working on, I promise )
Yet I'm not one to sabotage others who "get in my way"... I have Moon trine Saturn to keep me in check.

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posted December 21, 2011 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
what about Pluto people?
What I mean is PLUTO ONLY is in first?

Very powerful presence, strong personality, often with charisma

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posted December 21, 2011 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think Nep in the first would be like the others in the first,as far as self centered, as Nep is very other centered. What do you think?

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posted December 21, 2011 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Still_Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I don't think Nep in the first would be like the others in the first,as far as self centered, as Nep is very other centered. What do you think?"

Agreed. I was/somewhat am "other centered"

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posted December 21, 2011 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I don't think Nep in the first would be like the others in the first,as far as self centered, as Nep is very other centered. What do you think?


i get this as the mixed effect because i have Venus and Sun there as well. so i'm very self-oriented (not self-centred), and Neptune gives the kind of dreamy effect that makes it difficult for others to grasp me, i think.

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posted December 21, 2011 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Pluto in the 1st, conjunct Ascendant, Saturn(12th), and Mars(12th), in Libra.
I also have Jupiter in Scorpio in the 1st.

I am still trying to interpret the stellium myself (very much a beginner).

I will say though that people follow me, visually, I mean. If I am walking down the street, or through a shop, or anywhere there are other people, their eyes will follow me.
It doesn't oftenh feel like admiration, so I don't think they are eyeing up my Docs or anything!
A lot of the time it feels like they are keeping an eye on me.

In conversations people tend to act weird with me, even some family and friends - they will either ramble on and on and on and not let me say anything, or listen intently for ages saying nothing. I rarely get an equal exchange or fair conversation out of anyone in the true sense of the word.

People do also tend to love me or hate me, are for me or against me - I rarely get 'indifference'.

Not sure what my Jupiter is all about, as I wouldn't say I am an overall "lucky" person - although I am lucky in some areas (have escaped many volatile situations, and almost died several times).

So, perhaps Jupiter is just an expansion of Scorpio. My biggest love besides music is psychology, and I'm a bit obssessed with figuring out the psych of serial sex offenders and child killers.
If I don't do music therapy with survivors of such crimes, I will most likely work with the perpetrators trying to get to the bottom of the motivations that lead to sex crimes.
Perhaps this is Jupiter in Scorpio in action?
It is a goal I feel is at the very core of who I am, so it would figure to have it inj the 1st.

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posted December 21, 2011 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutonianGemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have uranus in the first conjunct ascendent which is scorpio and I am very very very rebellious...I don't like being told what to do, I want to do what I want when I want to. It definitely makes me quirky lol more often than not I've been called weird...but fascinating

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posted December 21, 2011 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Still_Hopeful:
"I don't think Nep in the first would be like the others in the first,as far as self centered, as Nep is very other centered. What do you think?"

Agreed. I was/somewhat am "other centered"




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