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Topic: "supposed" soul mate broke up with me.. need help with interpretation of our charts
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astro_flame Knowflake Posts: 28 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 14, 2012 09:50 PM
If only she can be as committed as you Amelia then I prob wouldn't be in this state. Oh well!Is there anyway to tell from her chart that she is afraid of commitment and what are her soft spots when it comes to love? Strangely enough she was in 2 previous rs where she was dumped cos of a 3rd party and the 2nd rs was a long term which I think was 6 years. So this time around she has decided to be the dumper! IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 1753 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 14, 2012 10:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by astro_flame: If only she can be as committed as you Amelia then I prob wouldn't be in this state. Oh well!Is there anyway to tell from her chart that she is afraid of commitment and what are her soft spots when it comes to love? Strangely enough she was in 2 previous rs where she was dumped cos of a 3rd party and the 2nd rs was a long term which I think was 6 years. So this time around she has decided to be the dumper!
The ruler of her 7th is mars and pluto...her pluto is doing well but her mars and Saturn I see are the two planets with the most challenges in her chart. Mars ruler of her 7th is conjunct saturn and both square chiron. I suppose this can manifest therefore similar to chiron in the 7th so she is now doing to others what was done to her as far as wounds relationship wise. On top of it she has NN in the 7th. I would say she has a lot of karma revolved around relationships...this is the area she is here to grow on in this lifetime. Do a search for Chiron in the 7th. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 1984 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 14, 2012 10:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by amelia28: His: sept 30th 1980 Royal oak, MIMine: Sept 21 1983 Santo domingo, Dominican Republic. We have composite stellium between aphrodite/venus/atropos all been trined by Neptune, ruler of our composite first house. Venus is our 8th house ruler in our composite chart. I wonder if this explains some of our connection.
No birth times? IP: Logged |
Raina18 Newflake Posts: 19 From: Ga Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 14, 2012 11:03 PM
Doesn't sound like your soulmate to meIP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 1753 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 14, 2012 11:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: No birth times?
Mine is 12 noon and his 11:03PM....  IP: Logged |
Capriquarius Knowflake Posts: 1188 From: So. Cal Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 14, 2012 11:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by Raina18: Doesn't sound like your soulmate to me
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astro_flame Knowflake Posts: 28 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 14, 2012 11:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Capriquarius: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Raina18: [b]Doesn't sound like your soulmate to me
/end thread[/B][/QUOTE]ouch!! :P she was the one who said we're soul mates when we first met! well i was led into believing it too partly due to our synchronizations with our actions/thoughts on many counts. just wondering if anyone has come across of twin flames separation? IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 1984 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 14, 2012 11:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Capriquarius: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Raina18: [b]Doesn't sound like your soulmate to me
/end thread[/B][/QUOTE]Ok cool, we got that. He is just trying to get her back. Show some sympathy, no? IP: Logged |
astro_flame Knowflake Posts: 28 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 14, 2012 11:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: Ok cool, we got that. He is just trying to get her back. Show some sympathy, no?
Thank you RAS - you hit the right spot!
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littlecloud Moderator Posts: 1251 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 14, 2012 11:50 PM
FYI- I didn't bother reading all four pages, but in my opinion, that is one of the worst synastrys I've ever seen. That angle conjunction definitely indicates soulmates. That is not in doubt...although I'm not sure if you're 'together forever' soulmates. Someone on here said (a while back...I remember the tidbit of info from researching/googling) that in AC/IC conjunctions usually don't last and the AC person is the one that usually leaves (you're IC here...) In any case, I'm not going to discourage you from getting back together with her...but seriously that synastry makes me wince. Good luck to you IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 1673 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted January 15, 2012 12:37 AM
^ Sure the Saturn squares are hard and is is the moon square uranus but I don't see how the synastry is that bad?IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 1984 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 15, 2012 12:44 AM
Lol the synastry is pretty bad. I just didn't want to burst his bubble :/IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 1673 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted January 15, 2012 12:48 AM
Well obv sth was working cos they lasted 3 years lol. Lots of relationships can't even last the first year alone.IP: Logged |
astro_flame Knowflake Posts: 28 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 15, 2012 12:57 AM
I think to add more context to this past rs and that is I'm pretty much an introvert when it comes to affection - I don't show it enough even though the gem craves for it.There was a period when I was having problem at work and that brought into my personal life. Somehow that got into her cos my patience was wearing thin and I got clingy during the end. Before all this work hoohaa we were really happy together and I believe that she was having prob staying with my family and I delayed the decision to move out. Gee sorry to sidetrack here cos I made it like an aunt agony board! But I just want to be upfront so that u guys will get the right picture.. Even though I have let her go but deep inside I am hoping that one day we will be reunited. IP: Logged |
Capriquarius Knowflake Posts: 1188 From: So. Cal Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 15, 2012 12:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: Ok cool, we got that. He is just trying to get her back. Show some sympathy, no?
It's not helpful to prolong pain by giving false hope.Astro_flame: Hopefully you will receive an uplifting transit soon! IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 1984 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 15, 2012 01:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by Capriquarius: [QUOTE]Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: [b] Ok cool, we got that. He is just trying to get her back. Show some sympathy, no?
It's not helpful to prolong pain by giving false hope.Astro_flame: Hopefully you will receive an uplifting transit soon![/B][/QUOTE] He needs to decide there's no hope for himself no one can make him see that for him. Plus, you're going to tell him they didnt have connection when obviously they did for 3 yrs. It's not helpful to be unsympathetic when someone is looking for sympathy NOT advice..big difference. He doesn't want advice, he wants support. So, learn to distinguish the difference.
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Capriquarius Knowflake Posts: 1188 From: So. Cal Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 15, 2012 01:16 AM
There is no rule or law anywhere forcing someone to give sympathy. I dole it out at my discretion. I would hate it if someone didn't hit me over the head with the cold hard truth when I'm getting over a breakup. If OP doesn't like my post then he can ignore it - It's not even that long. You'll never change my mind, RAS. We're way too different. IP: Logged |
astro_flame Knowflake Posts: 28 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 15, 2012 01:36 AM
peace out ladies and gentlemen..  i know everyone has different opinions and that is why this forum is for - to share your perspectives so that we don't see it from a single point of view. yes i know that the synastry is bad and such and the reasons why my ex shouldn't be together but what i believe is that there is this strong connection between us from the start - it will never be broken. We started to have problems during the last few months which we didn't talk to resolve but instead let it manifest. The reason why i posted is because i am keen to know if our soul mate connection was indeed present and if there's anything that we can do or at least on my part to be able to show my ex that the problems we faced before were temporary and it could be resolved if we have the right attitude to face it together. Thats what astrology is for eh? i.e. not using it to find your future perfect partner but to work out the differences if the connection is there. Why let something so precious go when issues can be resolved easily? I'm sorry if my responses created some unpleasantness and that was never my intention in the first place.. I needed answers and I needed support hence I'm here. Okay thats my rant.. you can choose to ignore it. :P IP: Logged |
mintgirl123 Knowflake Posts: 1673 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted January 15, 2012 01:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by Raina18: Doesn't sound like your soulmate to me
Soulmates ARE NOT all rainbows, ponies and candy floss, nor do they last forever. Real soulmates is not that fairytale idea of one. It involves alot more than that. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 1984 From: USA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 15, 2012 01:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by mintgirl123: Soulmates ARE NOT all rainbows, ponies and candy floss, nor do they last forever. Real soulmates is not that fairytale idea of one. It involves alot more than that.
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amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 1753 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 15, 2012 10:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by mintgirl123: Well obv sth was working cos they lasted 3 years lol. Lots of relationships can't even last the first year alone.
I agree....they lasted three years for a reason and if the synastry is bad ( I can't read well synasty charts) then it most be the composite why they got together bc I can see the composite and is good. With a bad composite probably the relationship would have not gotten started or at the very least would have not lasted 3 years for sure.. Edit to add: The synastry is kind of strange.....not a lot of conjunctions true but one thing did catch my eye! Sun conjunct northnode!  I guess that is what brought them together...Northnode is powerful and then the composite must have quickly taken over. Noted that also NN conjuncts Uranus so that could explain the breakup. I bet relationship started out of the blue and ended out of the blue. I wonder what is the orb between possible cojunction in synastry bt pluto and venus...it looks like is wide and perhaps are not conjuncting but can't tell by the chart.... so there is a synastry stellium between northnode sun and uranus. Unpredictable fated events working in synastry I would say it could manifest in this relationship. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 1753 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 15, 2012 10:41 AM
and RAS did point out his saturn squaring all her stuff in the AC...ouch. Saturn specifically touching ascendent I imagine would suck. IDK from experience.Edit to add: Must be the composite why they lasted and those NN apsects in synastry and I am hoping there is a venus/pluto conjunct in that synastry. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 1753 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 15, 2012 12:56 PM
I would say that her northnode in the 7th conjuncting your sun and uranus means that the purpose of relationship was for her to learn from you about relationships but since uranus is involved it was fated for relationship not to last too long as Northnode is about purpose of been here in natal, fated connections in synastry, and fated events in transit.Her nothnode also conjuncts your IC so I would think that points to past life connection as that would mean that her southnode conjuncts your MC. But seriously you will fall in love again and even harder next time as this relationship was meant to be just not forever bc there is something even more special waiting for you out there! IP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 1251 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 15, 2012 10:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by mintgirl123: ^ Sure the Saturn squares are hard and is is the moon square uranus but I don't see how the synastry is that bad?
oops have to edit bc I hit reply with no reply -_- They have 3 saturn squares and two saturn conjunctions. For the entire synastry only 3 helpful aspects (pluto/neptune doesn't count, has been generational for many generations) and none involving the saturns... Other than the conjunctions, (which for most would probably be too wide) her Saturn in an important part of her chart is unaspected. Also his venus is unaspected (perhaps a wider one that astro doesn't count exists) Their ascendants are square which means they look at the world in completely different ways. It's sets all the house overlays off too, where all the houses are square each other. I'm having a hard time finding the good things in the synastry. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that their synastry should be all blue lines, but I don't see in the 'black and white' of it, any common ground for these two to share on a day to day basis. The only reason they lasted that long is because of those saturn squares, and having my experience of relationships with hard saturn aspects, let me tell you, it's no fun. It's like the laughter and smiles are sucked out of it. The general 'rule' with hard Saturn aspects is that you start to resent the things you liked in the person after a while. I've experienced this quite a few times...It's not cool. astro_flame-> I'm sorry for completely bashing your relationship. Just understand I'm looking at it completely objectively from the astrology. I'm sure you've received tons of advice and support on this thread (too long for me to read) From that completely objective point of view, I'm shocked you guys lasted 3 days let alone 3 years. To be even more honest I don't think she was the one for you. I do wish you the best though. Coming out of a relationship that you thought was forever is hard and I'm sorry it hurts so much. I hope it gets better soon... IP: Logged |
astro_flame Knowflake Posts: 28 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 15, 2012 11:07 PM
Hey all,No worries about the r/s bashing - in fact I appreciate all of your time in replying to this thread. I'm wondering will there be alot of differences in our synastry if I don't have her correct birth time? She wasn't sure of her birth time hence she gave me a "i think so" answer.. But so far the instant attraction, soul mate connection and differences in our thinking (not in all cases) are true.. IP: Logged |