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Topic: "supposed" soul mate broke up with me.. need help with interpretation of our charts
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astro_flame
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posted January 13, 2012 01:27 PM
  
Hi,It's been almost 3 mths that she broke up with me. She's a gemini and i'm a scorpio and we were together for 3 years. she said that she wasn't happy and needed space.. but now she's with a pisces within a month of our break up. ouch!  I really felt like we were soulmates cos we had synchronicities such as our thoughts and actions that surprised us sometimes if that helps. Would appreciate if anyone will be able to interpret our synastry/composite chart to see why the r/s failed and why do i still feel a bond with her? She hurt me but yet i still care for her and still love her much. Thank you for your time. Synastry (Blue is me):
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athenegoddess
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posted January 13, 2012 01:59 PM
It's a very important connection. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted January 13, 2012 04:11 PM
Composite:I see that saturn, ruler of the eight, conjuncts venus and the Sun in the composite and that ruler of the 7th which is jupiter falls in the first in composite (I would think this meant that both of you would put your relationship first). Also in the composite your venus conjuncts mars. Also neptune falls in the 7th and trines venus, Sun and Saturn which is ruler of your 8th. So I could definitely see that this connection would turn into a relationship based on composite. The stellium between saturn, venus, sun would make the relationship intense but sober since ruler of the 8th is saturn is my guess and neptune trining venus, sun and saturn would make your relatinoship and the sex between you very beautiful and idealistic. You also have jupiter conjunct moon which creates positive feelings between the two of you that also probably overflows to other people in your life. You also have Uranus square venus which could lead to sudden breakups but since your chart with her is strong it would probably lead to making up and then breaking up and then making up... I have venus square uranus with husband and I very very often try to break up with him but his juno and saturn conjunct my SUN so he doesnt let the break up happen. I bet with you two it will therefore manifest by break ups that lead to making up and getting back together cycle. Edit to add: If she is already dating someone else then I dont think you guys will get back. I would do an horary chart asking this question to get some closure. However there is a small possibility that been with this guy will make her realize that she wants to be with you! and then she will end up looking for you. Oh and that venus square uranus is exact hence definitely important in the chart and probably why you broke up but I hope it works out for you and you two get back if is meant to be. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted January 13, 2012 07:55 PM
Hi there, the reason she broke up with you is because of two things.First i want to say you guys have the love stellium sun-mercury-venus which is why you love her so much. But saturn was in the stellium, which often means unrequited love. Why does it mean that. Well, saturn conjunct the sun in the composite makes people want to make a commitment to each other because there is a lot of security. Unfortunately whenever the two of u get together u take life too seriously and become overly critical of each other and the tone that is set between you is very gloomy and depressive. Many financial difficulties, sickness, and people being against your relationship are some of the troubles u will face together because of saturn. However. Saturn couples do usually last a while because there is so much security there. You know are both mature and serious and are both ready to settle down and that you can count on each other completely. But, the emotional fulfillment isnt there. You do have harmony and compatibility beause of the love stellium--the composite mercury, sun, vend conjunction. This is why you love her so much. It means deep and abiding love. But she was unhappy. Some people can deal with a depressie tone in a relationship if it rings security, but for her it was too much to take because her sun, venus, and mercury are all square to your saturn in synastry! That means that she feels you repress her and dominate her and criticize her unjustly like an authoritarian. You may not realize she feels that way, but she is very sensitive to your criticism, and on top of that you dont notice that you do it. I doubt she will come back. An let her go please for her sake...i can only imagine how unhappy she was with all of those personal planets in er chart square to your saturn, and on top of that saturn being in the love stellium in the composite. I am surprised you guys even got together. Well, taking a look at your synastry I can see why you got together, not only did you have venus conjunct pluto in synastry but also mutual sun-moon aspects (and positive aspects at that). That is pretty intense. Also you had sun trine jupiter and many other nice aspects. However, i see you had moon conjunct saturn as well in synastry. Again, this leads to want to make a comittment but u guys need to be more aware of each other's emotional needs and be more nurturing towards each other! There was a strong attraction, i can see that in the synastry. But like i said, she couldnt take the repression anymore. You guys had venus conjunc pluto and i believe that along with the mutual sun-moon aspects is what made the love and attraction strong! She probably felt the same way, it's just that she couldnt take it anymore! There is too much saturn! And especially the saturn is holding HER down, a lot more than you. Plus she is a gemini, and geminis cant handle serious tones in a relationship. Their life is all about making other people laugh and making people see the joy in life. So my advice is, move on. Have some compassion for the way she must have felt, and the fact that she had the loyalty to stick by you for this long while suffering. And let go. I KNOW it is so hard with that love stellium in the composite and venus conjunct pluto in synastry, trust me i have been there. But the sooner you accept there is no way she will be ahppy with you the better. Do it for her, with compassion. Bc you dot want to see her hurt anymore and u wan her to be happy. There are lots of other pluto relationships out there for u with the love stellium in the composite. Believe me. I didnt think so either when i first experienced mine! But there really are other fish in the sea! If you're still a bit confused which im sure u are go to these sites and input your her birth information and it will help you understand better what the aspects I'm talking about mean  Astro.com's Astro-Click Partner
Grupovenus.com's Compatibility for lovers and Composite compatibility
Moonit.com's fabulous overall relationship summary (be sure to do both the love and friend compat by simply changing the type of the relationship in the dashboard. You dont have to use more credita to get both types.)
and Astrology3d.com's fantastic Relationship report.
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mintgirl123
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posted January 13, 2012 08:00 PM
Your relationship was obviously fated but just because it is doesn't mean it was meant to be long term unfortunately. I know it's hard, and I can imagine you right now feeling like you're so replaceable seeing that she just jumped ship, but don't let it get you down. Just try to heal and move on, I'm sure there's something more meaningful in the future for you. You just can't see it yet.IP: Logged |
astro_flame
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posted January 13, 2012 09:46 PM
Thanks all for the interpretation! Much appreciated..I know it's all about moving on from now but it's hard when u get pulled in now and then. She cried when we were on the phone few weeks back and I asked her why.. She said that she still had feelings and it brought back the old times. And just recently she txt me to say thanks for the gift but she can't take it cos it was given to her after the break up. A gift is a gift. I guess being the scorpio in me I then ignore her txt because out of sight out of mind. I just want to say that if she had given me a chance to work this out together then I am sure we will work out the differences cos now I know what went wrong and that we will be happy.. But she rather gave the chance to another person so yeah.. Somehow I feel that she is my soul mate and that one day we will find one another again.. Maybe I am just being foolish.. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted January 13, 2012 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Hi there, the reason she broke up with you is because of two things.First i want to say you guys have the love stellium sun-mercury-venus which is why you love her so much. But saturn was in the stellium, which often means unrequited love. Why does it mean that. Well, saturn conjunct the sun in the composite makes people want to make a commitment to each other because there is a lot of security. Unfortunately whenever the two of u get together u take life too seriously and become overly critical of each other and the tone that is set between you is very gloomy and depressive. Many financial difficulties, sickness, and people being against your relationship are some of the troubles u will face together because of saturn. However. Saturn couples do usually last a while because there is so much security there. You know are both mature and serious and are both ready to settle down and that you can count on each other completely. But, the emotional fulfillment isnt there. You do have harmony and compatibility beause of the love stellium--the composite mercury, sun, vend conjunction. This is why you love her so much. It means deep and abiding love. But she was unhappy. Some people can deal with a depressie tone in a relationship if it rings security, but for her it was too much to take because her sun, venus, and mercury are all square to your saturn in synastry! That means that she feels you repress her and dominate her and criticize her unjustly like an authoritarian. You may not realize she feels that way, but she is very sensitive to your criticism, and on top of that you dont notice that you do it. I doubt she will come back. An let her go please for her sake...i can only imagine how unhappy she was with all of those personal planets in er chart square to your saturn, and on top of that saturn being in the love stellium in the composite. I am surprised you guys even got together. Well, taking a look at your synastry I can see why you got together, not only did you have venus conjunct pluto in synastry but also mutual sun-moon aspects (and positive aspects at that). That is pretty intense. Also you had sun trine jupiter and many other nice aspects. However, i see you had moon conjunct saturn as well in synastry. Again, this leads to want to make a comittment but u guys need to be more aware of each other's emotional needs and be more nurturing towards each other! There was a strong attraction, i can see that in the synastry. But like i said, she couldnt take the repression anymore. You guys had venus conjunc pluto and i believe that along with the mutual sun-moon aspects is what made the love and attraction strong! She probably felt the same way, it's just that she couldnt take it anymore! There is too much saturn! And especially the saturn is holding HER down, a lot more than you. Plus she is a gemini, and geminis cant handle serious tones in a relationship. Their life is all about making other people laugh and making people see the joy in life. So my advice is, move on. Have some compassion for the way she must have felt, and the fact that she had the loyalty to stick by you for this long while suffering. And let go. I KNOW it is so hard with that love stellium in the composite and venus conjunct pluto in synastry, trust me i have been there. But the sooner you accept there is no way she will be ahppy with you the better. Do it for her, with compassion. Bc you dot want to see her hurt anymore and u wan her to be happy. There are lots of other pluto relationships out there for u with the love stellium in the composite. Believe me. I didnt think so either when i first experienced mine! But there really are other fish in the sea! If you're still a bit confused which im sure u are go to these sites and input your her birth information and it will help you understand better what the aspects I'm talking about mean Astro.com's Astro-Click Partner
Grupovenus.com's Compatibility for lovers and Composite compatibility
Moonit.com's fabulous overall relationship summary (be sure to do both the love and friend compat by simply changing the type of the relationship in the dashboard. You dont have to use more credita to get both types.)
and Astrology3d.com's fantastic Relationship report.
They have a lot of things but not that stellium, the venus is at 8 degrees which is far from conjuncting sun and mercury as sun is at 21 degrees and mercury at 24. IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted January 13, 2012 09:54 PM
Saturn does not mean unrequited love!!!!! Saturn makes you stick together! I have saturn in a stellium with my husband and in synastry his juno conjuncts his saturn which conjuncts my Sun and I loved him from the beginning strongly which even bothered me actually bc It was like we met and I already careeeed a lot about him......feelings developed too quickly.Saturn makes you stick together....Saturn sobers things up and makes you see clearly and have realistic expectations, has nothing to do with unrequited love. Edit to add: But she might be too young to handle saturn in the stellium between sun, mercury and saturn...some people cant handle Saturn that is true but the tendency is for saturn to make you want to stick together and work things out even if part of you wants to run for the hills. But uranus is very activated in the composite and she might not be mature enough yet to handle saturn lessons so she ran and went along with the uranus energy in the composite.
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amelia28
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posted January 13, 2012 10:07 PM
Every requited relationship I have had involves Saturn in the composite...for three years she requited the love she felt for him and based on what he is saying she still has feelings for him but it sounds like she is running away and I am thinking it has to do with her age and natal more than anything perhaps after been three years with him she knows the next step is to get engaged or married and feels she is too young to make that commitment and wants to explore around.IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted January 13, 2012 10:12 PM
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Saturn does not mean unrequited love!!!!! Saturn makes you stick together! I have saturn in a stellium with my husband and in synastry his juno conjuncts his saturn which conjuncts my Sun and I loved him from the beginning strongly which even bothered me actually bc It was like we met and I already careeeed a lot about him......feelings developed too quickly.Saturn makes you stick together....Saturn sobers things up and makes you see clearly and have realistic expectations, has nothing to do with unrequited love. Edit to add: But she might be too young to handle saturn in the stellium between sun, mercury and saturn...some people cant handle Saturn that is true but the tendency is for saturn to make you want to stick together and work things out even if part of you wants to run for the hills. But uranus is very activated in the composite and she might not be mature enough yet to handle saturn lessons so she ran and went along with the uranus energy in the composite.
Saturn is way to much for me.. Way to heavy... The easier aspects are alot nicer.. I did have venus sq saturn with ex hubby but I couldnt stand it... His saturn in my first... The entire relationship was to much for me.
BUT.... I did feel the need to stay and try to work it out, because I gave my word, and I was planning on keeping it forever...
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amelia28
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posted January 13, 2012 10:26 PM
yeah Saturn is no picnic that is true but I love my husband a lot and I stick around bc we do have a lot of fun together, a lot of adventures, I dont know things stay interesting and partially is bc of the challenges of Saturn, and if it wasn't for Saturn I wouldn't have stuck around bc my tendency is to run for hills when conflict arises in a relationship...Saturn has taught me to stick it out and what is needed to make it work and last but yeah is too much to handle for some people, I get it. My NN in the 7th needs the help of Saturn in relationships. I read a lot of marriages that last many years have saturn involved but yes it is no picnic and not everyone can handle it. Marriage takes work to make it work and that is the lesson that Saturn teaches.IP: Logged |
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posted January 13, 2012 10:30 PM
Saturn is all about sticking through the thick and thin so any relationship that lasts years will most likely have saturn aspects.Oh and OP, we have more than one soulmate. Your ex WAS a soulmate, but just bc we meet a soulmate, doesn't mean we're meant to be with them long term. Soulmates open us up and teach us alot of things about life, and about yourself. That's why they come into our life. IP: Logged |
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posted January 13, 2012 10:31 PM
Maybe its my Uranus in H7... lol... I can deal with the easy Saturn aspects.. The hard ones kill me....
Like that one guy I met whos saturn was on my Sun,moon,and merc... I wouldnt even go out on a date him...
He wanted to control me, and I hated it... Note to self... No saturn in Leo men for me!
scary stuff... My ex I couldnt stand him when I met him.. I did everything I could to get away from him.. BUT he had that aries moon, so he liked me even more... LOL IP: Logged |
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posted January 13, 2012 10:33 PM
I thought she was running away as well because she said her heart and mind was conflicting hence she needed space to think and sort out herself. I didn't realized that would mean her trying a rs with another person - although I kinda suspected it but she kept denying..She comes across as someone who is confused and lost right now.. I hope this is just a temp phase. I guess no contact now is the best policy eh? And let her figure it out by herself IP: Logged |
amelia28
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posted January 13, 2012 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Maybe its my Uranus in H7... lol... I can deal with the easy Saturn aspects.. The hard ones kill me....
Like that one guy I met whos saturn was on my Sun,moon,and merc... I wouldnt even go out on a date him...
He wanted to control me, and I hated it... Note to self... No saturn in Leo men for me!
scary stuff... My ex I couldnt stand him when I met him.. I did everything I could to get away from him.. BUT he had that aries moon, so he liked me even more... LOL
This is why I feel looking at her natal would help understand why she broke up with him..that and I suspect she is young girl who is not ready to settle and he is. I dont like been controlled either...If I was submissive husband and I would fight a lot less LOL. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted January 13, 2012 10:39 PM
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I thought she was running away as well because she said her heart and mind was conflicting hence she needed space to think and sort out herself. I didn't realized that would mean her trying a rs with another person - although I kinda suspected it but she kept denying..She comes across as someone who is confused and lost right now.. I hope this is just a temp phase. I guess no contact now is the best policy eh? And let her figure it out by herself
I have read, that one person planet conjuncts anothers NN...
That the planet person is all HEY LETS DO THIS!! but the NN person, feels the draw, but is still afraid to "move" forward...
It may be to soon for her... Try no pressure and just let her know you will be there for her... Friend or lover which ever way she is comfortable with..
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Lioness
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posted January 13, 2012 10:40 PM
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This is why I feel looking at her natal would help understand why she broke up with him..that and I suspect she is young girl who is not ready to settle and he is. I dont like been controlled either...If I was submissive husband and I would fight a lot less LOL.
OOo I cant have a submissive husband.. I would eat him ALIVE!!!!
He's got to be able to stand up to me... LOL...
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amelia28
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posted January 13, 2012 10:41 PM
LMAO.......I completely agree..I am the same way.IP: Logged |
astro_flame
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posted January 13, 2012 10:48 PM
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This is why I feel looking at her natal would help understand why she broke up with him..that and I suspect she is young girl who is not ready to settle and he is. I dont like been controlled either...If I was submissive husband and I would fight a lot less LOL.
I'll post her natal chart when I'm back home later. but she is not young - mid 30s. She changes her mind and is very unpredictable. She did tell me she doesn't know what she wants and perhaps tts causing her unhappiness.. Maybe she is still emotional immature? I want to help her but it's out of my hands. Friends told me to not care so much and let her be since its her life but I cannot help but to worry for her since she doesn't have many friends to provide a listening ear. IP: Logged |
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posted January 13, 2012 10:51 PM
In the synastry is she on the outside... She sounds somewhat like me. I notice if thats her, she has Uranus conjunct the DSC... THAT would explain alot... She needs alot of space and freedom... You cant pressure her at all... But at the same time, your going to have to chase her down and capture her. I want to see her neptune and uranus are doing in her chart. IP: Logged |
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posted January 13, 2012 10:53 PM
Don't have your life in limbo for her. She has a gem sun, a pisces moon and uranus conjunct desc... So I expect she's not the most reliable and stable of people? Probably slightly flakey at times and very changeable?IP: Logged |
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posted January 14, 2012 01:07 AM
Yes even though the orb is wide from sun conjunct venus i still have found it to be valid. Whoever said they have saturn conjunct sun in the composite with their husband....yes saturn makes you grow up a lot, but you face so many difficulties together it's as if life had something against you all of a sudden..almost nothing goes your way, and you both take life so seriously. I know plenty of longtime married couples without any saturn.I'm not saying she didn't love you. You had the love stellium, venus conjunct pluto, and DW sun-moon aspects...of course she loved you. But i believe what happened is what lioness said about the lad whose mars fell on her sun moon and mercury. I am not making this up. Astrology websites describe relationships with synastry where saturn conjuncts or negatively aspects personal planets as the other person feeling very criticized by the saturn person and being rly sensitive to their criticism. Also, even relationships with double whammy saturn aspects are described as too serious and too much focus on responsibilities and not enough on emotional needs. I am not just talking out of my arse here because this is what the websites i listed in my post say..that means an astrologer believes that. And various astrologers at that. IP: Logged |
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posted January 14, 2012 01:16 AM
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Don't have your life in limbo for her. She has a gem sun, a pisces moon and uranus conjunct desc... So I expect she's not the most reliable and stable of people? Probably slightly flakey at times and very changeable?
Woah. Didnt notice that. Lol. That's true! Sun square moon people are an indecisive mess
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posted January 14, 2012 01:22 AM
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Yes even though the orb is wide from sun conjunct venus i still have found it to be valid.
I see so sometimes orbs matter but sometimes they dont! LOL ....and the orb is not just wide, it is extremely wide LOL IP: Logged |
astro_flame
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posted January 14, 2012 01:44 AM
thank you so much for helping me to interpret our problems and perhaps there might be some hope that we would be able to reconcile our differences.. i do honestly believe that we have a connection here and although i am letting her go but i know this bond will never break..So here is her natal chart:  And here is mine for what is worth:
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