posted January 24, 2012 03:15 AM            

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Originally posted by alaz7200:
@Anongrl10: I know people with Venus in Taurus opp. Pluto in Scorpio. It seems that they are more often the ones to be the victim of Plutonic feelings than the one perpetuating them. They attract controlling, obsessive partners rather than act that way themselves. They want control, too, they're just not as upfront about it as say, a Venus conj. Pluto in Scorpio, like me.

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posted January 24, 2012 03:53 AM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Embarrassing but when we were first dating we used to play mind games on each other pretty bad. I guess the type of people we are is why it worked lol. Just realizing eachother's vulnerabilities and learning to give up some control and hand it over to the other person.

She probably was only playing mindgames with you because you made her feel insecure in some kind of way and wanted to test weird little aspects of you to see if you can be trusted with her heart. It took me soo long to admit I liked him even though I was burning inside!

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posted January 24, 2012 03:58 AM            

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Originally posted by anongrl10:
LOL, typical Scorpio. Waht did she have in Scorpio? I so hate it when Scorpio people do that. I'm a Venus Scorpio and will only bother when WITHIN a relationship in which case it is mutual; otherwise it's friendly and breezy (Sag Sun, Aqua rising). Wanting to know all your secrets while they withhold all the similar info about themselves is just an immature Scorpio's insane need to control others and have power over them.

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posted January 24, 2012 05:01 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
she had sun,mars in scorpio,and mars and pluto were conjunct

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posted January 24, 2012 05:14 AM            

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Originally posted by anongrl10:
Yeah, probably too intense for ya!
My Mars in Aqua squares my Venus in Scorpio so I am pretty familiar of the Aqua-Socrpio clash.
Like you said, you have to be a very good match otherwise if you are going to end up with a Scorpio woman.
Keep looking!

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posted January 24, 2012 05:20 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
no not too intense for me,too closed off for me,i dont have a problem at all with feeling deeply,i want someone who feels deeply, scorps and heavy pluto types disturb me because they supposely feel so deeply but hide it and put on a poker face and reveal nothing,in my opinion you cant have a healthy relationship where you hide your feelings and thoughts ,and play mindgames with each other. i would have no problem being with a scorp girl who had intense emotions and was open and honest about them,it would certainly make understanding them and getting along with them alot easier

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posted January 24, 2012 12:43 PM            

Okay, I read a past between the two of you in which he has done something wrong and he still feels sort of guilty about that ..(read: convinced you had not forgiven him etc)
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That's a biggie.. and the fact that it still bothers him is because he can't take that back, it HAPPENED! The real Pluto-psyche is not only 'revengeful' himself but he's also aware of the (subconsious) 'revengefulness' in others which can -according to them- come out ANY time. Even if the other party fully denies it's hard to believe because one day/moment you could rightly need/use your/this 'reason' to hurt him back.
Past bad experiences (not you) with 'women' must have proven him that he *IS* like that or let's say it became a full conscious part of his nature; the ability to unscrupulously hurt the ones that simply deserved it. So yea.. he's still afraid to become victim of his own past actions and it takes a lot of time and more than words for him to feel more safe..
Forgive & forget is (almost) something out of reach for them and the same if they're the instigator as you see!

Did I forget something? Ok please ask again..

posted January 24, 2012 02:59 PM            

mir, THANKYOU! while i had realized it seemed he had a guilty conscience or was unable to forgive *himself* the rest of it about me perpetrating vengeance had not occurred to me and makes so much sense! it made no sense to me that he would push me away with such intensity of emotion and yet be so paranoid regarding my feelings for him. well, it was like it was the paranoia that was so strong it was actually pushing me away!

and no no, i would never hurt him with it or hold it over his head. maybe he needs me to explain my feelings on all of that again (one night i did when he was receptive and it seemed to be a great comfort to him but that didn't last very long). he actually told me that every single relationship he's had since me that went crappy he traced back to the way he had treated me. we are IN EACHOTHERS' HEADS and have for 17 years. we're almost like one another's conscience. and we seem to be learning lessons in unison, too.

my question had been whether maybe though it FEELS LIKE i'm at the mercy of his feelings, maybe he is at the mercy of mine? i am soooo sensitive to ppl's feelings and vibes (neptune 12th on AC, pisces SN, 4th moon, lots of aqua) so i often interpret others' feelings as my own and all i know is when i am around him and he seems paranoid it makes ME so paranoid! ha! but like, sheeeez, i remember it wasn't even a week after he had this big catharsis of all of his fears (that i hadn't forgiven him, that i couldn't see he was a good person who had changed) and it felt like the 'breakup' or whatever, he saw me at this outdoor market, followed me, then sat down very enthusiastically and sustained a long convo with me and told me he would teach me how to make jewelry (someone had just given me hundreds of beads!), and was excited to make plans. so yes, SO CONFUSING.

after a few more incidents like that (back and forth with intense paranoia and alternating excitedness and warmth) we stopped talking and would more or less ignore one another on the street for about a year. of late we have been smiling again and saying hi. there is no way in heaven or hell i am going to let it get back into that pattern again, but i'm not really sure HOW to be reassuring enough to him that i will not ever hold the old crap over his head. i DID tell him i DID find it hard to completely trust him just because holding/kissing/being around him like transported me into the past. maybe that was a mistake. but i did try to let him know it was my intention to fully work through those feelings and let them go and soforth. i thought my intentions were clear enough in that direction but perhaps his pluto is incapable of trusting that. but yeah whenever we see eachother the attraction is sooooo intense and mutual and EXCITING. our jupiter leos are exactly conjunct and land exactly on our composite DC. i'm more attracted to him than anyone i have ever been in my entire life, but this certainly has come loaded with challenges! fortunately (?) i'm also very fixed so perhaps he could learn to trust somehow via that. he fully believed we belong together and stated he's never felt right with anyone like he feels with me and i know forsure that was not some kind of manipulation, so i guess we'll see. i just need to figure out how to reassure him properly.

and yeah you seem very plutonine! i have a pluto singleton and several scorpio affinities so i suppose i am as well but i think it is more a peripheral sort of grasping and strong acquaintance rather than an actual full-on embodiment (at least one that usurps my aqua/taurus which are both too stubborn to let that happen!!).

posted January 25, 2012 05:17 AM            

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anongirl, i don't really know. the guy i'm discussing has the opposition but he's not easy to figure out. but mir and i are not sure if this could be more scorpio moon territory..?!

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posted January 25, 2012 01:19 PM            

Not a wrong idea to keep talking about it when you need it.. to stay FRESH, ALERT and AWARE as the world around will always (try to) pull you back to their surface-level!

posted June 11, 2013 10:58 PM              

We are both pretty jealous.

He is very suspicious though.

He swears I have been hanging with a new male friend lately. I'm like wtf?

Is he seriously making up stories in his own head?

Do u find yourselves to be very suspicious of a loved one?

Im not that extreme.

posted June 11, 2013 11:09 PM              

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
is this a common thing for venus pluto people? I only like guys with dark hair and dark eyes too!!!

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I have dark curly hair and brown eyes but I am fair skinned.

My boyfriend has straight sleek black hair. Tan skinned and hazel eyes.

He's a hot Puerto Rican. I'm a mutt though.

I think it's a Pluto thing maybe? Or genetics?

We are both Latin lovers

He does have an intense stare like the scorpions I have dated in the past. He has Pluto in the 1st house.

I'm not sure if I have intense eyes.

posted June 11, 2013 11:33 PM            

"*You love deeply, passionately, and wholeheartedly, and others may find your intensity either extremely attractive or threatening. You are charismatic and can have a powerful emotional influence on others, especially those of the opposite sex. You may use your attractiveness to manipulate others, sometimes without even realizing it."
"+ You are powerful and magnetic. You have a magical charm for dealing with people. You have a universal love for people that is non-sectarian and non-judgmental. You are sustained by material abundance that comes from others at some time in this life and may have a sizable inheritance. When you get involved with a project you can really pour yourself into it with seemingly limitless energy. This energy evaporates when you aren't involved in a project of personal importance. "

posted November 28, 2013 06:14 AM            

so hmmmmmmmm where to begin. I have really good intuition. i can always tell within 5 seconds of meeting a guy if it'll work out or not/if i can see them in my future...im always right most of the time. when i decide to be committed. i'm committed!!!!!! i have my heart and loyalty into you and i won't even try to look for how your screwing up. i'll have blind faith because i know if i look for screw ups my jealousy and ugliness will come out. this gives me good karma and i eventually will find out i always do once you betray me my heart basciallly feels like its dying, ill cry and i'll leave you and act like you've never existed or act completely happy around you to seem like i never cared or i'll come back and just be a friends with benefits with you with hardly any feelings leftover for you cause they've already died. i need sex so i'm fine with it. acting like i dont care but still hanging out usually gets the guy to like me even more and wa la it reallly is a power game i never really thought about it but instead of going off my feelings and instincts of how i feel towards that person, im always thinking of how i should reacte so i'm always on top and how ill always look good. it sucks because when i truly am so into that person, i force myself to look at their faults and to dig for them so i don't feel so overwhelmingly in love with them. its how i control my feelings cause i know when my feelings are strong, guys don't seem to like it, i come off just so loving and like they can have their way with me.

posted January 06, 2014 09:36 PM            

I go through life completely turned off
(impossible to get me attracted to someone just by looks alone.) But if someone triggers something very deep inside me (something plutonian...) I become internally explosively alive and become secretly obsessed. I'm perfectly happy alone in my own corner of plutopia quietly suffering in sheer ecstasy. And because the more I am activated by someone the further I back into my corner- The other person usually has no idea how I feel and often times will go for years unsure how to approach me or initiate. My Corner- GR.

Dark hair , light hair, neon skin...I don't care how you look...We all are the same when we are in the dark..

posted January 08, 2014 12:18 AM            

I have Venus conjunct Pluto in Virgo, 1st house; Pluto is sextile my Neptune conjunct Juno in Scorpio.

ALWAYS, always the dark-haired men. They generally seem to have some intensity going on as well. I'm attracted to men in whom I sense a lot of hidden depths smoldering away. This is true even with a guy who is Gemini sun. (His Uranus is conjunct my Pluto and Venus, and conjunct his own Pluto.)