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alaz7200
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posted January 15, 2012 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alaz7200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

I'm new to the Forum, and as someone with a Venus/Pluto aspect in my Natal Chart, the combination has always intrigued me. In my case, Venus is conjunct Pluto in Scorpio. As one might presume, my interpersonal relationships are very much infused with themes of possession, obsession, devotion, eroticism, and crises. The only relationships (platonic or romantic) that attract me are those of depth and promise. I am extremely private about the goings on within my relationships, and dually solicitous of those I love, or more accurately, form attachments to.

What are your experiences of Venus/Pluto love, in any context? I have yet to meet another person with a Venus-Pluto conjunction, thus cannot attest to how the planetary energies play out for others. I would also be curious to learn about how the square and opposition (and to a lesser extent, the trine and sextile) manifest in your lives, or the lives of those you have come to know.

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posted January 15, 2012 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have the square , my experience with this aspect is that i am intense and passionate about love,i want to be in love and have commitment,which my chart being mostly aquarius this the only thing to explain it,but as i said i am very serious when it comes to love,i fall in love and get attached very fast,i do not understand people who just date and have sex for fun and have the attitude what happens happens. i think my intensity and passion about love scares most women away. mindgames and deception have been a theme of the relationships i have been in,and when the relationships over its over,i am not on speaking terms with any girls i have ever dated,and its always very painful :/

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posted January 15, 2012 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have the square , my experience with this aspect is that i am intense and passionate about love,i want to be in love and have commitment,which my chart being mostly aquarius this the only thing to explain it,but as i said i am very serious when it comes to love,i fall in love and get attached very fast,i do not understand people who just date and have sex for fun and have the attitude what happens happens. i think my intensity and passion about love scares most women away. mindgames and deception have been a theme of the relationships i have been in,and when the relationships over its over,i am not on speaking terms with any girls i have ever dated,and its always very painful :/

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posted January 15, 2012 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alaz7200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AquaGuy,

Thanks for you response. I resonate with the need to be intensely and passionately in love, too. In short, a compulsion to be consumed by love and another's soul entirely. However, your inability to settle for the "casual sexcapade" leaves me feeling as though you cannot dissociate love from sex. Does this ring true?

Personally, though I don't indulge in superficiality and have an extreme aversion to lighthearted social exchanges, I cannot pass up casual sex if the sexual partner is sexually appetizing in some way. Regardless of the fact that I know the liaison won't persist past the night, if someone arouses me, it's very difficult not to engage in a night of smoldering, passionate sex. In this way, it's relatively easy to dissociate sex from love.

I suppose as long as the sexual partner is Plutonian in some way, my own personal Pluto doesn't feel betrayed, for it is with another Plutonian that my Venus is sharing itself.

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posted January 15, 2012 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no i dont view sex as love itself,i want to have sex with only someone i love though,i think sex outside of love is meaningless,i dont want to think the girl i am with to have had casual sex with a bunch of people,i think it should only be shared with special people,for me there has to be a level of trust there

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posted January 15, 2012 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alaz7200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AquaGuy,

So is it a matter of only being able to be aroused by someone you trust, or being aroused regularly, but not pursuing those attractions unless it's with someone you've come to trust?

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posted January 15, 2012 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
haha i am still like any regular guy and desire women sexually but yes i only pursue it generally if its with someone i love or trust,my moon square venus with the whole madonna ***** complex thing plays a part too

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posted January 15, 2012 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alaz7200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AquaGuy,

Gotcha. Now, what about looks-wise? Do you look at all Plutonian? I've noticed a trend of people embodying physical traits of the planet that most closely contacts Venus in their chart.

For instance, many Venus/Pluto people I know are a very dark, intense-looking bunch. Eyebrows, above all, are very defined. I myself have jet blue/black hair and deep-set green eyes beneath very thick arched eyebrows.

Yes/no?

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posted January 15, 2012 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh wow! i have always found the combination of black hair and blue or green eyes very sexy and no i look like my aqua sun and ascendant very tall with distant dreamy green eyes,people tell me i always appear deep in thought or like im in another world

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posted January 15, 2012 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Cancer venus sq Pluto in Libra... Also pluto in H7

When I was younger I had the power struggles... I fought everyone that tried to have any type of power over me..
I proved to be a battle that would just get worse...
I had my lessons in this area..

Now I have managed the energy a bit better.. Im no so much worried about the power struggles... Even though deep inside I fear being controlled....

In romance, when I like someone.. I really really like them... I want to spend as much time with that person..
I have lost myself, many times....

I like the intensity and passion and with out it, its just no point in perusing it.

I can separate love and sex.. but I need the passion and the lust..

My relationships are also crises, and have some story behind it...

I also have a thing for secret flings... The thrill of it and the passion behind them excites me...
(I also have Uranus conjunct juno in H7)

When I care, I really care... When I dont care, I dont care at all...
Once the passion dies down.. I feel cheated and feel its time to move on..

Im terrible... terrible....


btw.... ive been drinking,if this doesnt make sense that would be why...

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posted January 15, 2012 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oo yeah... I only like men with dark hair and eyes... blah on blonde hair men... I have only dated Hispanic men... Latin lovers are so awesome!!!!!

no offense anyone....

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posted January 15, 2012 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
no offense taken,i have awesome blonde hair

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posted January 15, 2012 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the sextile and tend to only be attracted to intensity. I used to think there was something wrong with the guy. Lol. Nope, it's me. With Venus and Mars both in my 8H, the sextile is a bit stronger. I love an intense look from across the room. I want devotion and don't understand people who can have more casual relationships or one-night stands at all. It just seems like a big waste of time to go for more temporary satisfaction rather than longer fulfilment.

Maybe it's just me, but can anyone else sense Venus-Pluto in other people? Whenever I meet a guy who has Venus square Pluto natally I feel like it would be wise to be extra careful around them.

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posted January 15, 2012 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^u mean like highlander? that would be awesome! people near my bday would for sure have a venus pluto aspect too but no i do not get that vibe from them.

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posted January 15, 2012 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 15, 2012 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lu_pirate     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quintile here!!

I love this aspect, it's my favourite of all my chart.

We all should try doing artworks to canalize better the bad feelings (like revenge, etc).

You should read this article, it's awesome: http://astrofix.net/2010/09/03/venuspluto-aspects/

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posted January 15, 2012 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluegreyeyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have them Trine... All i can say is, it provides a lot of unwarranted attention from the opposite sex. I used to be extremely shy around men b.c i was so uncomfortable.... Now i use it as leverage to get what i want. A lot of articles mention "manipulative" - and yes, i will admit that. The amount of times ive been call mysterious/bewitching/sultry/vixen.... it does make me weary of intentions tho... Its kinda a blessing + curse

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posted January 15, 2012 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bluegreyeyes:
i have them Trine... All i can say is, it provides a lot of unwarranted attention from the opposite sex. I used to be extremely shy around men b.c i was so uncomfortable.... Now i use it as leverage to get what i want. A lot of articles mention "manipulative" - and yes, i will admit that. The amount of times ive been call mysterious/bewitching/sultry/vixen.... it does make me weary of intentions tho... Its kinda a blessing + curse


And the orb of trine?

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posted January 15, 2012 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SensibleHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My pluto in scorpio is trine my venus in pisces (conjunct my mars) and i can definitely attest to its influence, but that might be because my pluto aspects with almost anything in my chart. I think i have a martyr complex; i want someone intense and brooding and passionate but i also want to idealize them

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posted January 15, 2012 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DayandNight21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an exact 0 degree biquintile of venus aquarius to pluto in libra.
I used to be attractive and brooding like you describe here and some of the astrofix info applies. I never realised I was attractive until years later when a lot of weight changed all that and looking at past pictures it looks like a different person!

Probably the progressed chart had something to do with that, whilst venus pluto positive aspects are great the venus saturn negative aspects are to be avoided at all costs!

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posted January 15, 2012 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
^u mean like highlander? that would be awesome! people near my bday would for sure have a venus pluto aspect too but no i do not get that vibe from them.

Lol. Uhm... I mean like you could do a lot of damage to each other, mostly the Venus square Pluto person can do the most damage. At first, I didn't know what it was and later would check their charts to see that there was a hard aspect between Venus and Pluto. The last guy that I met with this aspect I couldn't be in the same room alone with him. Too much excitement and intensity for my delicate sextile.

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posted January 15, 2012 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, check this out. I am a venus square pluto person myself

love this tribe!
http://tribes.tribe.net/venuspluto

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posted January 15, 2012 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have the sextile and tend to only be attracted to intensity. I used to think there was something wrong with the guy. Lol. Nope, it's me. With Venus and Mars both in my 8H, the sextile is a bit stronger. I love an intense look from across the room. I want devotion and don't understand people who can have more casual relationships or one-night stands at all. It just seems like a big waste of time to go for more temporary satisfaction rather than longer fulfilment.

I also have the sextile and I agree with this poster. Unfortunately, I seem to attract really heavy Scorpio/8th house types that demonstrate the controlling/manipulative tendencies of the sign. I've been trying to figure out what that is in me that's been attracting them. In the very least I recognize them, and though I'm attracted to them, I feel the extreme need to resist them (my Saturn conjuncts Pluto) and run the other direction because I know that they don't actually care about *ME* they care about the obsessional part of love and sex that comes along with it and also the fact that I care about some part of them (many of them seem to dislike themselves in some way).

So yeah... I desire the deep attachment, but without the obsessional aspect to it. That part tends to scare me.

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posted January 15, 2012 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
oo yeah... I only like men with dark hair and eyes... blah on blonde hair men... I have only dated Hispanic men... Latin lovers are so awesome!!!!!

no offense anyone....


is this a common thing for venus pluto people? I only like guys with dark hair and dark eyes too!!!

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posted January 15, 2012 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hAve the trine,dark,strong features men for me!

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