posted January 20, 2012 05:28 AM            

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Originally posted by vanessa:
Hi..

Scorpio sun,moon,venus,mercury,jupiter here. (If anyone knows how a scorpio operates, that's me. If you want to isolate scorpio factor in his behaviour that is. It could be something else in his chart).
All of this talking about scorpio and 'mind game' and 'sensitive ego' is a contradiction to me. Why would a scorpio want to risk him being hurt by playing with other people's emotion? If a scorpio shuts you out, 99 out of 100 cases it's provoked. I'm currently shutting two of closest people in my life for being in relationship behind my back. I think its shady and total disrespect of our friendship. GOD know I hang on and looking for ways to rebuild the friendship, but when I caught my self crying at latest cold hard reality, I decided to move on. They're dead to me, cause no one is allowed to treat me this way.

So in my opinion, there's more to the story between you and him that's undisclosed here. Although its subtle, emotion is emotion and you can't help who you're hurting.

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posted January 20, 2012 05:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Dreamy_AriesGirl:
What I cant stand with Scorpio man anymore is the double standard.

YOU have to be very careful not to hurt them.
YOU have to be true to yourself
You always need to tell them the truth
YOU cant play games with them
You have to be strong,

but then THEY have no problem
-hurting you
-playing stupid mind games and tests
-being easily offended
-lying to you

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posted January 20, 2012 05:36 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
yes i did and tried to fix things and i finally realized that i wasnt the one at fault ,she was,i tried to apologize and fix things for what i said,but she said alot meaner things to me then i said to her and she never apologized,and i found out she had told me a bunch of lies and finally said screw her she isn't worth it

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posted January 20, 2012 05:46 AM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
I'm guessing they were lies about things that shouldn't have been lied about right? Yeah, soulmates come into our lives to teach us things. She was probably in your life to teach you some lessons, she probably wasn't meant to stay long term.

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posted January 20, 2012 05:47 AM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
I'm guessing they were lies about things that shouldn't have been lied about right? Yeah, soulmates come into our lives to teach us things. She was probably in your life to teach you some lessons, she probably wasn't meant to stay long term.

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posted January 20, 2012 06:01 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
they were stupid lies haha,but my favorite was how she lied and told me she had a baby and the dad wasnt in their lives,but come to find out it was just a family friends baby that she babysat alot,i mean i dont know why someone would lie about that,i guess she wanted me to feel sorry for her

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posted January 20, 2012 06:05 AM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
haha my ex lied and told me he had leukemia. Also all these other effed up lies. Frankly aquaguy, I'd be relieved you got away. I hate liars, and I sure don't want to deal with sb that lies compulsively (esp about having a kid -_-). You want a honest genuine girl who doesn't do or say things just to manipulate you. That's not what you want for a long term gf, or wife.

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posted January 20, 2012 06:12 AM            

I think we go through experiences to realise what's important and what we need to focus on. Even if we stumble along the way, that only means we're getting closer to that destination.

posted January 20, 2012 06:21 AM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
That's not true. If I remember, you have venus conjunct pluto right? And a pretty heavy in fixed placements chart. So you're loyal and you take love seriously.
So what if you have an afflicted venus? Just means it takes you longer to fully be comfortable with yourself and everything you stand for. It might be abit back and forth in energy at times, but there will be a girl who will be all that good stuff and attractive and make you feel secure AND crazy (in a good way) and it'll be like that ex of yours, except this time it will last and it will be healthy and honest. PLUS even a better deeper connection.

I think we go through experiences to realise what's important and what we need to focus on. Even if we stumble along the way, that only means we're getting closer to that destination.

It's in front of you, you're just still on your journey towards it, that's all =).

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posted January 20, 2012 06:24 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
i have the pluto squaring my venus,and my afflicted venus means my relationships with women in general are troublesome,venus and the moon represent women,especially in a guys chart

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Don't take astrology aspects too literally. You should have the belief that things will work out. Cos if you're thinking negatively, it'll really be a case of self fulfilling prophecy.

posted January 20, 2012 06:31 AM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Don't take astrology aspects too literally. You should have the belief that things will work out. Cos if you're thinking negatively, it'll really be a case of self fulfilling prophecy.

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posted January 20, 2012 07:36 AM            

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I think water signs + virgo have the tendency to hang on to things for longer than necessary.

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posted January 20, 2012 10:57 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
you may not be that way,but there are lots of scorps and pluto types who are,every person i have been involved with who has scorpio placements or pluto heavy in their charts has played mindgames with me,while the negative sunsign stereotypes dont hold true to all the members of the respective sign,there is definitely truth to it,where theres smoke theres usually fire.

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Okay, i agree with you on that note. There were mindgames played by scorpio people. I however, stand to my observation that the game is not played purely for it self. There's a strong emotional reason behind it, usually it's hurt.

Cheers.

posted January 20, 2012 12:11 PM            

I've made a few posts on scorpios a while back cuz I'm currently dating a Scorp sun with an Aries moon. Based on his astrological aspects, the guy is a walking contradiction which is why even sometimes I'm confused by him!

I agree with alot of what some of you said. Yes the mind games, yes the double standard, but coming back to you..? I wouldn't gaurantee that all scorpios come back. I'm a scorpio ASC, venus, mercury and pluto myself..I've never ONCE contacted or talked to any of my ex's. Most of them I've moved on cuz the feeling with them just died. When my feelings died, then it's dead..and no, I don't try to patch things up or meet up to talk over coffee.

Even the most loving ex (Sag sun, scorpio mars, taurus moon and cap venus) I no longer talk to. We tried at first after the breakup..by sending emails but they were very scattered...and now, I stopped, completely. Of course, I still do think about him sometimes but at the same time even though it was a very loving relationship, the fact that it's just not meant to be made me cut ties completely.

I'm very scorpionic in a sense..just that I'm super social (lol, libra here) and super serious about relationships and love. So what happens when you're the one giving a scorpio the cold shoulder? I've done it a few times..couldn't last because they would just keep probing and probing and asking and asking..and staring..and staring..and asking..even when we go to bed he's still asking and staring!!! They don't get tired.

posted January 20, 2012 12:44 PM            

my friend and i have been friends for about 8 years now, shes got her pluto,mars,mercury all in scorpio conjunct her sun and her pluto conjunction is exact. she pretty much is a living example of everything youv ever read about scorpio/pluto to the T. when we've gotten into fights or seperated becuase of trust issues we always end up coming back as friends. or we apolojize and talk it over. i think shes still weary of the trust thing as am i. there was a period of us not talking for about a year, and another one that was months.

posted January 20, 2012 09:18 PM            

I think you all should read Linda goodman chapter on Scorpio. It makes much more sense.

Stop bashing Scorpios. If you have hurt Scorpio, Scorpio would remember ( maybe it is a fault but something Scorpio can't do anything about that they remember things even though they don't want to feel, anyday I would like to be as distracted as Gemini or Aries.) they would give you enough warnings. If you haven't learnt your lesson then you are not good enough for Scorpio.Simple as that.

I am scorpio and I have given several chances to people in my life and maybe major 2 chances but after a while it is difficult to be phony and fake when you know someone makes you feel **** or hasn't changed despite them saying they have.There is no point someone still hurting you when they have apologized.
Sometimes scorpio gets hurt because they can still remember stuff.( Not your fault but that means scorpio has to process what happened.)
In most cases people don't think it is their fault anyways. They like to blame situations, circumstances, scorpio itself because of pointing out mistakes, etc.

Sometimes Scorpio doesn't have any vision for your relationship and their work is done. That is to make you think.

Scorpio's worst mistake is we are very idealistic and we expect best standards not only for ourselves but others as well.

Scorpio would give enough time, patience to know you and remember Scorpio is trying to know him / herself ,likes and dislikes. When scorpio leaves is after lot of consideration. Some people think that it is because of upper hand and some mind game. It is more like Restorative Justice. Scorpio would have several sessions of it before he gives up on you.

When you hurt Scorpio you are committing crime in Scorpio's eyes.It might be completely wrong to take revenge but it is essential that justice prevail, if not then in our world there should be no judges, lawyers and laws. Let Rapists and murder be set free, if that's the case.

If Forgiveness is best form of love. Scorpio's undeniable effort and faith for you to be best in your life is also form of highest love you can feel. Everyone feels that when Scorpio leaves. It is tough love.

Scorpions are not control freak like some other signs. They are protecting themselves from you hurting them unknowingly. OR They realizing they are going to hurt you. I guess every person has right to be protected. When scorpio protects themselves I do not think it is wrong.

Maybe sometimes people are dumbfound and in disbelief that something like that could hurt us but yes it hurts. Just because there is a tough exterior doesn't mean it doesn't.

Despite I hate that some people press our buttons wrongly. I do not think it makes sense to make more wrong karmas. Another fact of life, people come and go in your life.

Help heal your Scorpio and yourself.

At the end of the day , Scorpio and everyone else we are knowing ourselves and others. Self discovery in life is essential. Scorpio does it all the time and ask other people to do same.

posted January 20, 2012 09:23 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
you may not be that way,but there are lots of scorps and pluto types who are,every person i have been involved with who has scorpio placements or pluto heavy in their charts has played mindgames with me,while the negative sunsign stereotypes dont hold true to all the members of the respective sign,there is definitely truth to it,where theres smoke theres usually fire.

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posted January 21, 2012 02:34 PM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Nothing to do with sunsign. He's just a douche and probably isn't into you anymore and is too cowardly to tell you straight up.

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posted January 21, 2012 02:38 PM            

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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
Nothing to do with sunsign. He's just a douche and probably isn't into you anymore and is too cowardly to tell you straight up.

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Yeah, this. Like the book says... He's just not that into you.

posted January 21, 2012 07:33 PM            

"Uh Oh, now the stalking begins" is not what I want him to feel if I call or contact him.

It's not fair that he called the shots. I told him I was okay with just being friends, as long as he was in my life. It meant nothing to him and I was trashed.

I should be angry, and over it, and "screw you" but instead, I want another hug, another chance to try.

I used to call him sunshine.
"You are my sunshine, my only sunshine.
You make me happy when skies are gray.
You never know dear, how much I love you.
Please don't take my sunshine away."

posted January 21, 2012 09:12 PM            

But, I do love him. And I was honest and sincere from the beginning. When I used to look into his eyes, and tell him they were so beautiful, he would laugh, and look at me like I was pulling his leg.

He is beautiful. He has a broad face, and a big wide smile when he's happy. His eyes wrinkle in the corners. He has cute little teeth, and his lips make like a duck beak when he thinks. His hands are rough, like sand paper. He works with his hands, and juggles many different projects. His stuffed garage is neat, regardless that it's busting at the seams.

When he'd grow strawberries, he'd fill up a whole bowl just for me. When it would snow, he would shovel my car out, and then do the elderly neighbors.

He would look at me, and just a split second, blink and you'd miss it, his eyes would shine with love. When I caught that ray of sunshine from his eyes, my whole world would light up.

He would sing, all the time. And his voice was beautiful. When he'd argue, his voice would quiver, and scare the living **** out of me.

When he didn't get his hair cut, he'd have this little tuft of hair growing like a tail on his neck. If given the chance, I would have loved stroking it while kissing his beautiful lips. When I would pass by him, I would feel magnetic energy between us, you could almost touch it.

He would walk around in flip flops in the winter, and laugh at me when I would scold him to wear boots.

I love him. I'm no phony. I was gentle with his feelings, and would hurt myself before I hurt him. My moon Taurus would never have me any other way.

I think maybe he thought i was phony, because I was so open. He had Scorpio mercury.

posted January 21, 2012 09:21 PM            

You know what actually helps? Writing him a letter, write everything, all that you ever wanted to say to him. Write and write and write, and when you have nothing else to add to that letter, seal it in an envelope and burn it. And throw the ashes away.