posted February 18, 2012 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
what rubbish, that's an insult to everyone with saturn in 10th house..

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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
Excuse me? Since when is being gay an insult?

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posted February 18, 2012 03:19 PM            

uranus/mars for women

aspects between venus/mars and planets can be of great importance

im gay and yet have a venus in detirement (scorpio) but i belive the fact it is unaspected makes it very important in my chart and stronger then my mars (who conjuncts pluto in scorpio...very strong xD)

posted February 18, 2012 03:24 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
mostly the regular approach that men with strong venus and uranus influence tend to be gay/bisex

uranus/mars for women

aspects between venus/mars and planets can be of great importance

im gay and yet have a venus in detirement (scorpio) but i belive the fact it is unaspected makes it very important in my chart and stronger then my mars (who conjuncts pluto in scorpio...very strong xD)

also uranus conjunct asc opps moon square sun

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posted February 18, 2012 04:23 PM            

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My chart: http://tinypic.com/r/29zzjbo/5

posted February 18, 2012 06:00 PM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
There was this fabulous user, by name of ElizabethO, who proposed this theory that the strength of Venus in contrast to Mars would indicate sexuality. For example, having Mars in fall and Venus in domicile, she suggested, would lead to a straight female or a non-straight male (the Venus is stronger, needing a Mars, or a male, to balance it out).
I dunno, it seemed to work quite well, her theory.

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posted February 18, 2012 06:55 PM            

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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
Which leads to the question if we can just say that all homosexual men are Venusian...there are some very masculine, Martian gay men out there. And also very Venusian, feminine lesbians. Just saying.

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posted February 18, 2012 08:18 PM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Venus being stronger than Mars wouldn't necessarily make someone Venusian. Perhaps they have a strong Sun or Pluto to be masculine or maybe she has a strong Moon. But! I know what you're saying. C:

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The thing is that I know way too many girls with strong Pluto, Mars and weak Venus and Moon who are far from homosexual. It is not a bad theory...it's just not right.

posted February 19, 2012 09:40 AM              

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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
Excuse me? Since when is being gay an insult?

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It's an insult to everyone with Saturn in 10th house to make this link to 'gay' I don't believe you can link saturn the *prude* to anything unsual, that is the domain of uranus..Besides saturn lacks confidence, needs hard work...

Basic astrology forum discussing Saturn in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000660.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….

now neptune can be linked to confusion of one sexuality...

There is no 'gay' signature OR death signature. if there were don't you think major businesses would employ astrologers?

You need to be more realistic about what astrology can and cannot do...

posted February 19, 2012 01:38 PM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Venus being stronger than Mars wouldn't necessarily make someone Venusian. Perhaps they have a strong Sun or Pluto to be masculine or maybe she has a strong Moon. But! I know what you're saying. C:

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Having a strong venus does make this person venusian but this doesn't mean he/she will be feminine!
Mars is the strongest planet in my chart and venus one of the weekest. I'm VERY girly, although I consider myself martian (I'm not vain and I have more man friends than woman, and other stuff).

posted February 19, 2012 02:11 PM            

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Could be neptune or uranus in the 8th or 5th, making you idealistic towards your partner. But really, there isn't tHAT much idealism where you're unsure of your partners sexual identity, if you don't already naturally go that way.

Could be hard aspects to the attraction planets... ESPECIALLY MARs. My friend and I both have neptune square our venus' and it has no affect. (Basically just our approach to relationships is spiritual/quieter.)
My experience in real life terms isn't enough to configure though.

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I personally don't believe it has to do with saturn in the 10th. I have this and have two other friends who have this aspect also. It basically makes us like a deer in headlights when we're in public places like school. We feel like we have to display this serious, cold-exterior because we feel pressured by our peers and dealt with huge responsibility when we were younger. We have a lot of responsibility to our role in society, we expect it, so we're cautious about it, which begins with low esteem.

If it is our virtue for popularity, we will become the most popular, but like saturn, we will lose it if we "faked" getting there. OR, keeping the popularity because it is "well-earned; also saturn!

posted February 19, 2012 04:45 PM            

Someone who is gay could be reasoned why they are through their chart.

That's how astrology seems to work much of the time from my perspective. The individual explains their chart, the chart does not explain the individual.

posted February 19, 2012 07:35 PM            

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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
Someones chart does not say if they are gay or not.

Someone who is gay could be reasoned why they are through their chart.

That's how astrology seems to work much of the time from my perspective. The individual explains their chart, the chart does not explain the individual.

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posted February 19, 2012 10:54 PM            

@SaggiMC I think I got your point! You say would be an insult for people with saturn in the 10th being called gay or bi the same way uranian people would be insulted being by just called conventional?

@sand I know, libra is a 'masculine' sign because it's air and yang. But if you look deeper librians are way more feminine than, for exemple, capricornians, that are 'feminine' and yin. Librian is ruled by venus, so it's venus in a venusian sign - very feminine!

posted February 19, 2012 11:31 PM            

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Originally posted by virgolotus:
I'm gay
Venus in Libra
Mars in Gemini

Lesbian friend
Venus in Scorpio
Mars in Leo

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SEE!? ElizabethO's theory works here. Venus is stronger in Libra while Mars is alright, not particularly strong, in Gemini. Venus stronger, needs Mars.

Venus is detrimented in Scorpio, whereas Mars in Leo is still fine. Mars stronger, needs Venus.

And then for FondueKnight, Mars is fallen in Cancer, Venus at home in Taurus. Venus stronger, needs Mars.

posted February 19, 2012 11:33 PM            

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Originally posted by lu_pirate:
@tautomer4314 You say that astrology does not influence the biological part of us? I don't know. When I post this I wasn't sure that astrology affects sexuality, but I wanted to discuss about! Mainly because I read a lot that venus in aquarius is highly associated with bissexuality.

But I do think that the same way the moon can influence the women's uters (it's not an astrological point of view, doctors agree) and mercury can influence the nervous system, than astrology could influence one's sexualty also.

Also, if astrology influence family patterns (you could belive it doens't, but you can't afirm) so it could also say if someone is gay or not.

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That's not what I am saying at all. What I am saying is there is more then one way to come to a conclusion in astrology.

To give a more explicit example. Let's say that 3 different people have venus conjunct Uranus in gemini the 8th house. That says a lot of things, and could result in these 3 people behaving in similar manners. Now, let's say that one of these people is gay. For that person, this placement of venus conjunct Uranus in the 8th house in gemini is the reason why they are gay. For the other two, it doesn't mean that, because they aren't gay.

Astrology can explain why something is the way it is. In the absence of they why though, it means nothing.

posted February 19, 2012 11:39 PM            

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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
Astrology can explain why something is the way it is. In the absence of the why though, it means nothing.

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posted February 19, 2012 11:42 PM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
SEE!? ElizabethO's theory works here. Venus is stronger in Libra while Mars is alright, not particularly strong, in Gemini. Venus stronger, needs Mars.

Venus is detrimented in Scorpio, whereas Mars in Leo is still fine. Mars stronger, needs Venus.

And then for FondueKnight, Mars is fallen in Cancer, Venus at home in Taurus. Venus stronger, needs Mars.

I dunno, say what you want, it works so far...

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posted February 19, 2012 11:54 PM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Is it kinda like a philosophy, almost...? After all, it's all about perception and stuff...it's not a science. "Life explained through astrology, not astrology dictating life" kinda deal?

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Yup that's how I see it. I do put quite a lot of stock into astrology, and it explains a ton to me. I find it to be a highly valuable study.

With that said though, astrology is NOT a science. Not in the slightest. I know many people taut that it is, but let me assure you, it isn't. I work in a scientific field as a profession and I know quite well the difference between something that is a science, and not. Astrology, is not a science by any stretch of the word.

posted February 20, 2012 09:40 AM            

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Originally posted by lu_pirate:

@sand I know, libra is a 'masculine' sign because it's air and yang. But if you look deeper librians are way more feminine than, for exemple, capricornians, that are 'feminine' and yin. Librian is ruled by venus, so it's venus in a venusian sign - very feminine!

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posted February 20, 2012 09:46 AM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
SEE!? ElizabethO's theory works here. Venus is stronger in Libra while Mars is alright, not particularly strong, in Gemini. Venus stronger, needs Mars.

Venus is detrimented in Scorpio, whereas Mars in Leo is still fine. Mars stronger, needs Venus.

And then for FondueKnight, Mars is fallen in Cancer, Venus at home in Taurus. Venus stronger, needs Mars.

I dunno, say what you want, it works so far...

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