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SmilingHeart
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posted February 20, 2012 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
It's an insult to everyone with Saturn in 10th house to make this link to 'gay' I don't believe you can link saturn the *prude* to anything unsual, that is the domain of uranus..Besides saturn lacks confidence, needs hard work...

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now neptune can be linked to confusion of one sexuality...

There is no 'gay' signature OR death signature. if there were don't you think major businesses would employ astrologers?

You need to be more realistic about what astrology can and cannot do...


You know, if you read what I wrote you'd know that I was telling about something I've heard and that I'm not sure what to think about that, because I'm not even sure yet if astrology does ANYTHING. I'm just in the starting phase and need to observe and figure things out.
And something else....you oviously think that linking something to 'gay' is an insult.
Also not as unusual as you may think. I have nothing more to say to you.

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SmilingHeart
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posted February 20, 2012 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SmilingHeart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Desiring Shadows
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posted February 20, 2012 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


Smilingheart and MCsagittarius;

*is a typical libra*
I feel like this communication problem is getting us no where! We should all compromise and be a little nice so we can arrive with an understanding! Being the LindaLanders we are, we are going to be seeing eachother around quite frequently. & don't you want a pleasant thoughts to arive when you see a users name? (Just a suggestion..)

I think Sagmc meant that some people could get offended hearing ALL saturn mcers are gay. They coujld get offended because its part of their chart and if they aren't gay that's accusing them of something they are not and it could be hurtful.

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posted February 21, 2012 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
what about this?

Mars in scorpio
Venus in taurus


Maybe house position would tip this, such as Mars in Fourth, which isn't a comfortable house for Mars. I dunno really, it was a theory that seemed plausible though I do think there's more than just domicile and exaltation and all that.

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sand
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posted February 21, 2012 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehe mars in 1st, venus in 7th.

but my marsh is weaker coz it only haz 1 aspect an opposition to my sun.

i will check this theory on my gay friends. i iz straightey.

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posted February 21, 2012 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frozen Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
Excuse me? Since when is being gay an insult?


Hell's yeah! People should realise how they use language

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posted February 21, 2012 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lu_pirate     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
Smilingheart and MCsagittarius;

*is a typical libra*
I feel like this communication problem is getting us no where! We should all compromise and be a little nice so we can arrive with an understanding! Being the LindaLanders we are, we are going to be seeing eachother around quite frequently. & don't you want a pleasant thoughts to arive when you see a users name? (Just a suggestion..)

I think Sagmc meant that some people could get offended hearing ALL saturn mcers are gay. They coujld get offended because its part of their chart and if they aren't gay that's accusing them of something they are not and it could be hurtful.


Yeah, they probably had a misunderstood, and oh, misundertood can be a big problem.

I agree that Sagmc just wanted to say that saying all people are something they are not is complicated and can be offensive!

Also, we have to understand that 'offence' can be so different from people to people, one of my friend get easly insulted when called Heterossexual! And that doesn't mean that me, being hetero, need to be offended by him! I would never get offended being called lesbian, but I can understand why some people can.

Ps: I liked the "typical librian comment"

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Desiring Shadows
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posted February 21, 2012 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lu_pirate:
Yeah, they probably had a misunderstood, and oh, misundertood can be a big problem.

I agree that Sagmc just wanted to say that saying all people are something they are not is complicated and can be offensive!

Also, we have to understand that 'offence' can be so different from people to people, one of my friend get easly insulted when called Heterossexual! And that doesn't mean that me, being hetero, need to be offended by him! I would never get offended being called lesbian, but I can understand why some people can.

Ps: I liked the "typical librian comment"


Yeãh.
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SaggiMC
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posted February 21, 2012 11:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
My friend who is a lesbian has mars square uranus in her chart.
she is a taurus
moon pisces
mercury taurus
venus gemini
mars taurus


You cananot possible tell JUST by posting a few things off someone chart. You need to SEE the chart and overall picture. I suspect venus in gemini being the most flirtatious sign going could enjoy experimenting...


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SaggiMC
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posted February 21, 2012 11:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by alaz7200:

[b]I have found a plethora of men with Sagittarius Asc. to be gay, or to at least bisexual.
I attribute this to Moon (Cancer) ruling the 8th house of sex and sexual needs. This would be the more receptive partner in the relation.. the 'female', so to speak. It makes you want to be taken care of and dominated sexually. This of course is a generalization and won't be the case with all Sag Asc. males, just my experience.

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thank God for that last caveat then

AND how many charts have you researched to come out this this *sweeping statements*?? about Saggi Asc??

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SaggiMC
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posted February 21, 2012 11:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
Someones chart does not say if they are gay or not.

Someone who is gay could be reasoned why they are through their chart.


That's how astrology seems to work much of the time from my perspective. The individual explains their chart, the chart does not explain the individual.



exactly, nice one

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SaggiMC
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posted February 21, 2012 11:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SmilingHeart:
You know, if you read what I wrote you'd know that I was telling about something I've heard and that I'm not sure what to think about that, because I'm not even sure yet if astrology does ANYTHING. I'm just in the starting phase and need to observe and figure things out.
And something else....you oviously think that linking something to 'gay' is an insult.
Also not as unusual as you may think. I have nothing more to say to you.


Putting Saturn into this equation is rubbish in my opinion and is THE most conventional planet in a chart. Your thinking and reseaning regardint this is way off. Look to other planets and don't typcaste or make sweeping statements if you don't want to be challenged!

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Fondue Knight
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posted February 21, 2012 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fondue Knight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
don't typcaste or make sweeping statements if you don't want to be challenged!


You should take your own advice, here.

quote:
Originally posted by SaggiMC:
what rubbish, that's an insult to everyone with saturn in 10th house..

quote:
Originally posted by SaggiMC:
It's an insult to everyone with Saturn in 10th house to make this link to 'gay' I don't believe you can link saturn the *prude* to anything unsual, that is the domain of uranus..Besides saturn lacks confidence, needs hard work...

So, gay people who happen to have Saturn in the 10th would be insulted by someone suggesting that link? I agree that I don't see how Saturn in the 10th would have anything to do with indicating homosexuality in the chart, but your use of language comes across as extremely insensitive and ignorant.

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posted February 21, 2012 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Fondue Knight:
So, gay people who happen to have Saturn in the 10th would be insulted by someone suggesting that link? I agree that I don't see how Saturn in the 10th would have anything to do with indicating homosexuality in the chart, but your use of language comes across as extremely insensitive and ignorant.

Yeah I second this, completely.

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hodad
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posted February 22, 2012 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hodad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read somewhere that a lot of Leo in the chart can signify possible homosexuality,especially Mars in Leo.Not that the person is definitely a homosexual,but the tendency/possible inclination is in there somewhere.

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hodad
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posted February 22, 2012 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hodad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read somewhere that a lot of Leo in a chart may indicate homosexuality.Not that it is a given,but there may be the tendency/inclination toward homosexuality.Especially Mars in Leo.It could be that the person is basically heterosexual,but has at least had a few same sex 'encounters.'This may or may not be true but I find it interesting.A lot of people I have seen with this placement have been 'questionable'---for example Steven Tyler and Anthony Kiedis both have Mars in Leo and they are straight but I think both have said they have had a few 'experiences' with men.Whitney Houston was a Sun/Venus in Leo and there have been rumors that she was at least bi.If you are looking at someone's chart chart and they have Mars in Leo take note! You might make some interesting discoveries!

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sand
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posted February 22, 2012 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe in steven's case the dude looked like a lady??

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posted February 22, 2012 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe i am the exception here but for what its worth: i am an aqua sun ,ascendant,aqua venus,with venus conjunct ascendant,with uranus in 11th aspecting my venus,my venus is heavily afflicted and prominent in my chart,and i am a straight man straight as an arrow, and even with all the venusian energy im still very masculine in the traditional sense,but as i said i may be the exception

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posted February 22, 2012 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lu_pirate     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
maybe i am the exception here but for what its worth: i am an aqua sun ,ascendant,aqua venus,with venus conjunct ascendant,with uranus in 11th aspecting my venus,my venus is heavily afflicted and prominent in my chart,and i am a straight man straight as an arrow, and even with all the venusian energy im still very masculine in the traditional sense,but as i said i may be the exception

Just wondering, how is your mars?

Also, even though I think venus in aqua has bissexual tendency because we want revolution and experimental sex. And I don't think ascendant influence sexuality, idk, I had never think about this.

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posted February 22, 2012 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lu_pirate:
Just wondering, how is your mars?

Also, even though I think venus in aqua has bissexual tendency because we want revolution and experimental sex. And I don't think ascendant influence sexuality, idk, I had never think about this.


the reason i mentioned the ascendant because it is aqua,and its conjunct venus,aqua in general gets the reputation for homosexuality and also i have read men with strong venus in their charts are feminine,and i have prominent aqua and venus and i am a straight masculine guy, and my mars is gemini in the third house trining the sun and saturn. i personally dont think you can tell sexuality by a chart,but who knows maybe there is an asteroid that indicates inclinations to samesex attraction,all i know is my brother and a gay i know have the same chart,born the same day,have all the same aspects,and my brother is straight.

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posted February 22, 2012 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lu_pirate     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
the reason i mentioned the ascendant because it is aqua,and its conjunct venus,aqua in general gets the reputation for homosexuality and also i have read men with strong venus in their charts are feminine,and i have prominent aqua and venus and i am a straight masculine guy, and my mars is gemini in the third house trining the sun and saturn. i personally dont think you can tell sexuality by a chart,but who knows maybe there is an asteroid that indicates inclinations to samesex attraction,all i know is my brother and a gay i know have the same chart,born the same day,have all the same aspects,and my brother is straight.

I knew a guy last year with venus in aquarius, the first time i looked at him i thought he was gay because he looked really modern and hipster (maybe it's a brazilian thing, 'modern' guys here are usually gay, maybe the strait ones don't have balls to dess up like that), but then I talked and he was really masculine.

Also, I see your point, maybe astrology can indicate how someone approach to sexuality in a broader way, but if someone is straight or homo is more complicated. Sometimes even the person can't tell.

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posted February 22, 2012 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 23, 2012 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lu_pirate     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
lu pirate


haha, I created this topic and now I don't even know if it really works anymore. Heh.

But i liked to know about the asteroids!

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posted February 23, 2012 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You cananot possible tell JUST by posting a few things off someone chart. You need to SEE the chart and overall picture. I suspect venus in gemini being the most flirtatious sign going could enjoy experimenting...

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I was just stating a fact about my friend. & I agree, Gemini's trendy!
Also, my ex-boyfriend was a definite rebel. He was super hipster & trendy, non-conformist. Maybe you'll want to look at his chart?
Once he was very stubborn and forced me to make-out with him. I ended up liking it and just went with it, but the stubborn-ness is such a sun taurus,moon aquarius,ascendant leo,mc scorpio thing. All of that fixed energy! He's also bisexual and very loveable.



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posted February 23, 2012 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just read that about DNA and gaily. What do you think, Fondue?

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